Fine margins. Every reason to expect that had our injuries not been so bad we could have got 4th.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager / awaiting clarity from the club over his position
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What is being exaggerated?
Been a shit season but you don’t half sensationalise things. Really weird when there’s no need to.
We finished level on points with Newcastle in 7th. 8 points ahead of West Ham.
We were indeed battling it out with Newcastle and Chelsea.
And had we not been so lucky we could have finished 14th. You know we should have finished lower on merit, so why accuse others of overplaying how bad we’ve been when in fact it’s the table that’s underplaying it?
Im reasonably confident that with a much lessor injury crisis we make up at least 9 points which would have gotten 4th.
Mind you, I’m not sure it’s still a good season even in that scenario.
Points wise yes. Performance wise we joined the battle to play like a top half team quite a while ago.
Absolutely nothing, don't pay attention to him. I pointed out it's been a poor season, which it has, and now he thinks posters are exaggerating.
Where is the exaggeration? We have been terrible whether you look at the points, goals difference, advanced stats or the eye test. In fact advanced stats tell you that we are even worse than our total points but we can ignore that and stick to your initial point, the table doesn't lie and it says that we have been terrible when you put it in context and realize that we have a better squad than that and our performances were far from what should be expected.
Villa were still on the piss Thursday night apparently
We do have a better squad which we’ve barely been able to utilise due to injuries yes.
The season was defined by the persistent injuries and the manager being tactically inept, overall I feel 8th probably flatters us slightly.
I figured. I've seen his posts on another topic. Nothing is ever wrong anywhere
It absolutely does lie. If anything, it flatters us. We were absolutely not the 8th best team in the Premier League this season.
Well today was only the 5th? time we've won by more than a single goal difference.
West Ham home, Sheffield Home, Everton home and away and today.
I'm just glad the season is now over. I just hope we're not starting next season with Southgate as manager.
The way we play is more of a problem than the 8th place finish.
I hope you melts who want him to stay are miserable when his sacking is announced. You have zero standards for this club.
Be careful, you'll be accused of exaggeration in a minute....
Exactly. I remember several narrow, labored, and lucky last min wins against bottom-tier sides. Gave us a few extra points - I rate us 10th or 11th.
22 points behind 3rd place. I am shocked so many people want him to stay.
But that’s ignoring the fact that all statistic measures show that our final position greatly flatters our performances. If we account for the hypothetical possibility of fewer injuries, we also have to account for the possibility that luck and margins won’t fall as kindly to us next season.
Someone needs to start a sack watch betting thread.
I believe INEOS doesn't want to destabilize anything right now before the FA Cup - but once it's over, I fully expect them to be ruthless.
and that will hurt his feelings.
I would hope next season we don't have all of these injuries, because I hope a lot of those players will be gone.
We're not stable WITH him, so what's the point? Get rid.
I don't think I agree with that. I think if Newcastle and Chelsea didn't have such bad injuries either, the table would have looked quite similar albeit with all three teams with more points.
The table doesn't lie but it does omit a lot. The goal difference tells its own story too. Newcastle scoring 85 goals (!) should finish higher than 7th.
Standards have never been lower in this club it's an absolute joke that there are people still back in this manager he's consistently delivered poor football all season hasn't had any backup plans and seems to injure all of our players and training he's an absolute liability and if you want it to stay at the club you're accepting below past standards and eight is apparently acceptable for the big Manchester United get a grip.
Apart from finishing 8th with -1GD with over 400 million spent as manager on players and no play style.
Not getting any type of European qualification is a sackable offense.
Surely there has to be a clause in his contract that you can sack at very low compensation.
Failed to meet objectives and failed badly.
Not getting any type of European qualification is a sackable offense.
Surely there has to be a clause in his contract that you can sack at very low compensation.
Failed to meet objectives and failed badly.
I sincerely doubt that!Gotta dangle the carrot in front of him - give him hope to keep his job. Once FA Cup is over, heads will roll, accountability will be had.
As long as we sack this guy and dont hire Southgate, we will improve.
Yeah, we need a fresh set of players that can be injured by the coaching staff.
Along with the pied piper
The problem is who takes over in the interim? All of the coaching staff are his picks, and we know he's terrible at recruitment.
Well I also hope there is a complete overhaul, but if we keep players who are constantly injured, they will likely still be constantly injured whoever is in charge. We will not know what is going to happen until after the cup final, so we might as well wait with bated breath.
Just exaggerating
This thread does that a lot to be fair. It’s pretty strong on either side of the in/out question.I for one am very happy that Premier League is finally over.