League Cup 4th Round

Manchester United 0:0 Middlesbrough

Middlesbrough win 3:1 on penalties

Old Trafford

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Wed, 28 October 2015 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Date - Wednesday, October 28 2015.
    Kickoff Time - 2000 Hrs BST.
    Venue - Old Trafford, Manchester.



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    Previous League Cup Meetings


    Manchester United 3 : 1 Middlesbrough

    Manchester United 2 : 1 Middlesbrough

    Middlesbrough 0 : 0 Manchester United

    Middlesbrough 0 : 0 Manchester United

    Manchester United 3 : 0 Middlesbrough




    All-Time League Cup Record


    Manchester United wins - 4
    Middlesbrough wins - 1
    Draws - 2




    Pre-Match Pressers


    Louis Van Gaal

    Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal admits he's unsure of who will be in his starting XI for their Capital One Cup match versus Middlesbrough, with many player in his squad fatigued and in the "red zone."

    The Dutchman is already without Luke Shaw, Paddy McNair and Antonio Valencia due to injury and is worried that other players in his team could also risk getting hurt because of playing too many matches.

    "I have a lot of players in the red zone, because we have had a lot of matches and we have a lot of matches to play," Van Gaal said in the Guardian "I have to see if I can use them or not. We need all the days to recover at this moment."

    Van Gaal has said he won't know his starting lineup until closer to kickoff for their match against Aitor Karanka's Championship club. Among those in line for a possible rest for the mid-week match are Wayne Rooney, David De Gea, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Juan Mata, Chris Smalling, Michael Carrick and Anthony Martial.

    James Wilson and Andreas Pereira are in the matchday squad versus Middlesbrough and could feature in place of any players Van Gaal sees fit to rest.

    "[Wilson and Pereira] are in the selection, but I have to select the lineup and that I don't know," Van Gaal said. "I have to do that tomorrow.

    "I think Middlesbrough is a good playing side. They want to play football, that is also a benefit for us, I think. You can also see teams with another play style and that is more difficult for us, but we can play football against them but it is also dependable of the strategy their team."

    Looking back on his team's goalless draw against Manchester City in their weekend derby, Van Gaal said he disagreed that it was a boring or unexciting game for fans to watch.

    "We had three chances in the second half and you have to finish those kind of chances," Van Gaal said. "It was a high level game with two teams defending very compact and it is very difficult to create openings. We did that in the second half and the fans shall enjoy the tension of the game and also because of the result we were closer to win.

    "I think the Manchester United fans were happy to see that because I have seen them also applauding when we left the pitch. It is not like the media are saying."

    http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-uni...r-united-players-tired-ahead-of-middlesbrough

    Manchester United manager Louis Van Gaal expects an attractive match tonight against a Middlesbrough FC side who "want to play football".

    "I know (Karanka) as a player, of course, and he was the assistant of Jose Mourinho (at Real Madrid) so I think he was able to learn the profession from him,' Van Gaal told the Mail Online.

    "He lets his team play in a very organised way and I see also that he loves the creative players. It will be a tough match.

    "I think Middlesbrough are a good playing side. They want to play football, that is also a benefit for us I think.

    "You can also see teams with another play style and that is more difficult for us, but we can play football against them."

    http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/louis-van-gaal-it-tough-10343444

    Aitor Karanka




    Team News


    Manchester United

    Luke Shaw and Patrick McNair ruled out, Antonio Valencia doubtful. Fringe first team members, and reserve players might start, including Andreas Pereira, who scored in the last round against Ipswich Town.


    Middlesbrough

    Stewart Downing, Christian Stuani, Albert Adomah, Adam Forshaw all doubtful for the match after sustaining minor knocks/ injuries.



    Know the opposition


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    Middlesbrough Football Club nicknamed MFC, Smoggies, and The Boro, are a professional football club based in Middlesbrough, Teesside, England; and were founded as an amateur team in 1876 by members of the Middlesbrough Amateur Cricket Club wishing to stay fit during the winter. The club retained its amateur status until 1889 when several members of Middlesbrough FC split to form Middlesbrough Ironoplis over a dispute; and became a fully professional football club in 1899. They were one of the founding members of the Premier League in 1992, and enjoyed one of its most successful periods following the appointment of former Manchester United legend Bryan Robson in 1994, when they gained promotion to the Premier League; followed by former former Manchester United assistant manager, Steve McClaren in 2001, under whom Middlesbrough reached the UEFA Cup Final in 2006; and won the League Cup in 2004. Despite their relatively lower profile, Middlesbrough have hosted some of the more famous names in football since the 1990s, including the likes of Robson, Juninho, Gascoigne, Mendieta, Ravanelli, and Hasselbaink. Middlesbrough play their homes games at the Riverside Stadium, and share a historic rivalry with Newcastle United and Sunderland.



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    Lee Mason.
     
    Hopefully we can "rest" Rooney and stop this ridiculous 10 v 11 experiment every game.
     
    Can we just not play Rooney for this? Please?

    ------------------ De Gea
    Darmian - Smalling - Jones - Rojo
    ------- Schneiderlin - Carrick
    Lingard -------- Pereira --- Memphis
    ----------------- Martial

    Maybe go for something like this. I want us to take this competition a little more seriously as it's a decent chance at silverware, but Lingard and Pereira deserve minutes.
     
    de Gea

    Darmian
    Jones
    Blind
    Marcos Rojo

    Carrick
    Schneiderlin

    Lingard
    Fellaini
    Memphis

    Martial

    SUBS: Romero, Smalling, Schweinsteiger, Ander Herrera, Mata, Young, Rooney.

    Bring in Blind, Carrick, Lingard, Fellaini and Memphis from the start to keep some freshness. Could see Pereira involved too I guess.
     
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    Can we just not play Rooney for this? Please?

    ------------------ De Gea
    Darmian - Smalling - Jones - Rojo
    ------- Schneiderlin - Carrick
    Lingard -------- Pereira --- Memphis
    ----------------- Martial

    Maybe go for something like this. I want us to take this competition a little more seriously as it's a decent chance at silverware, but Lingard and Pereira deserve minutes.
    That would be lovely. Expecting Fellaini and Young to both start though.
     
    de Gea

    Darmian - Jones - Blind - Rojo

    Herrera - Carrick

    Lingard - Pereira/Fellaini - Memphis

    Fellaini/Wilson
    Is Wilson fit for this?
     
    I care very little for COC..

    I'd rather see the youngsters like Pierera, Lingard, Wilson get some game time. Hopefully see Memphis get a game and remind LVG what he can do.
     
    Plenty of tickets available for this game. Should be a good one to watch, Boro ain't a bad team and should be close for promotion at the end of the season. Can see us putting a few past them and putting on a good show.
     
    I'd like to see us go for this trophy, we might have a good chance.

    Does anyone know the TV coverage for this game? It was chaos on the game thread when we played Ipswich because no one knew where they could find the broadcast.
     
    I'd rest Schneiderlin for this one he is becoming our most important outfield player so this is one of the few games we can afford to rest him.
     
    De Gea
    Darmian Jones Blind Rojo
    Carrick Fellaini
    Mata Pereira Lingard
    Wilson​
     
    de Gea

    Darmian - Jones - Blind - Rojo

    Herrera - Carrick

    Lingard - Pereira/Fellaini - Memphis

    Fellaini/Wilson
    Is Wilson fit for this?

    Agree mostly. But I think we may play McNair (if he's not injured or something) somewhere along the back.
     
    DdG
    Damo Jones McNair Blind
    Carrick
    Herrera Fellaini
    Jesse Wilson Depay
    This side would be interesting.
     
    DdG
    Damo Jones McNair Blind
    Carrick
    Herrera Fellaini
    Jesse Wilson Depay
    This side would be interesting.

    I really think Pereira and Lingard should both start. Maybe we'll play Depay as striker and Pereira on the left. But no idea what LvG will pull out of his hat. Maybe Rooney will start in this too.
     
    Feck, going to miss this game because I have 2 exams back to back, during this time :mad:
    Van Gaal usually doesn't like rotating too much but he should for this as we've had 3 really tough games over the past week and a lot of travelling, and go away to Crystal Palace next weekend. My guess is:

    Romero/De Gea
    Darmian Jones Rojo Blind
    Carrick Fellaini
    Lingard Pereira Memphis
    Rooney​

    Hopefully a comfortable win, and hopefully Memphis finds some form again for a confidence boost.
     
    Please, just don't play Rooney.

    Boro are doing quite well this season. Completely forgot Downing joined them in the summer - bit of a weird move, seeing as he had a decent season at West Ham. I know it's his boyhood club but...yeah. Strange.
     
    Don't think he has recovered from his injury yet.

    Ah, ok. I didn't know he was injured. Jones and Blind then. Do we have anyone else we could play or sub on at left back ? I'd hate to see Rojo get injured, with Shaw out long term...and seeing as LvG apparently considers him first choice LB now. and I guess Blackett is on loan.
     
    Ah, ok. I didn't know he was injured. Jones and Blind then. Do we have anyone else we could play or sub on at left back ? I'd hate to see Rojo get injured, with Shaw out long term... and I guess Blackett is on loan.

    Maybe @khoazany can help out.
     
    Early Predicted Line-up:
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    1. de Gea

    36. Darmian 4. Jones 12. Smalling 5. Rojo

    16. Carrick 21. Herrera

    35. Lingard 10. Rooney 7. Memphis

    9. Martial
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    Bench:
    20. Romero, 17. Blind, 25. Valencia, 31. Schweinsteiger, 28. Schneiderlin, 27. Fellaini, 19. Wilson

    Predicted Score: Man Utd 5-0 (Martial X3, Lingard, Wilson)​
     
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    Rest as many players as possible. Please LVG!

    De Gea
    Darmian-Smalling-Blind-Young
    Carrick-Fellaini
    Lingard-Pereira-Memphis
    Wilson

    subs: Romero, Jones, Rojo; Herrera, Goss; Mata, Rooney

    Or maybe Jones starting and Smalling on the bench. Jones is more prone to an injury though.
    If Wilson is not well then start Rooney. We need to give Martial a rest whenever we can.​
     
    Maybe @khoazany can help out.

    Cameron Borthwick-Jackson is the only natural left back from the U21s (but I think he also had been out for a short while,it's quite hard to keep updated about the injury situation when there's only 1 fecking game this month).Varela also can play left back but I'm unconvincing about him there at U21s level let alone first team.James Weir is very versatile and can do a job at left back, would be equivalent of playing Young at left back at first team level.

    So in a nutshell, I think LVG would just put a senior player there.Probably Darmian.
     
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    Cameron Borthwick-Jackson is the only natural left back from the U21s (but I think he also had out for a short while,it's quite hard to keep updated about the injury situation when there's only 1 fecking game this month).Varela also can play left back but I'm unconvincing about him there at U21s level let alone first team.James Weir is very versatile and can do a job at left back, would be equivalent of playing Young at left back at first team level.

    So in a nutshell, I think LVG would just put a senior level there.Probably Darmian.

    Thanks. Any chance of Fosu-Mensah making the bench?
     
    Memphis and Lingard have to start. I'd rest Martial, way too important for this game. Same defense with Darmian starting on the right. Fellaini to start as well as Carrick if fit. Wilson to start up front.
     
    I wouldn't drop Rooney for this game, we are playing a team at his current level and he might shave a couple more off that record.

     
    Memphis, Perreira, Lingard and martial to start this imo. Wilson as a sub in the second half. Martial as no.9.

    Carrick to get a game too
     
    Martial been playing alot of games. I would put him on after 60 mins. want him fresh for his first December. Let Rooney, Memphis and Lingard start up top.
     
    How is Middlesbrough's form lately in championship? They stunned City last season in FA cup and had given a tough fight to Liverpool in League cup earlier.
     
    Good game to give Rooney a run out.
     
    Rooney

    Depay-------Perriera--------Lingard

    Fellaini---------Carrick

    Darmian-----Blind------Smalling------Valencia

    Romero​
     
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Score Predictions

640,12,8
  • Man Utd win
  • Middlesbrough win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 37% Man Utd 3:0 Middlesbrough
  • 27% Man Utd 2:0 Middlesbrough
  • 10% Man Utd 3:1 Middlesbrough
  • 8% Man Utd 4:0 Middlesbrough
  • 5% Man Utd 2:1 Middlesbrough
  • 3% Man Utd 5:0 Middlesbrough
  • 3% Man Utd 4:1 Middlesbrough
  • 2% Man Utd 1:0 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 0:0 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 1:1 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 1:3 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 3:2 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 4:2 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 5:1 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 2:2 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 1:2 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 0:2 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 5:2 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 0:3 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 1:5 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 5:3 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 0:4 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 5:5 Middlesbrough
  • 0% Man Utd 0:5 Middlesbrough
Compiled from 660 predictions.
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Middlesbrough
Possession
56% 44%
Shots
13 7
Shots on Target
6 6
Corners
8 4
Fouls
12 7

Referee

Lee Mason