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Manchester United 2:3 Nottingham Forest

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    Lucky McLuckerson

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    Date: Saturday, December 07 2024
    Kickoff Time: 1730 Hrs GMT
    Venue: Old Trafford, Manchester


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    League Form Guide

    11. Manchester United: DWDWL
    6. Nottingham Forest: WLLWL


    Previous League Meetings


    Nottingham Forest 2—1 Manchester United

    Manchester United 3—2 Nottingham Forest

    Nottingham Forest 0—2 Manchester United

    Manchester United 3—0 Nottingham Forest

    Nottingham Forest 1—8 Manchester United


    All-Time League Record

    Manchester United wins: 47
    Nottingham Forest wins: 30
    Draws: 23


    Pre-Match Pressers

    Rúben Amorim




    Nuno Espírito Santo





    Team News

    Manchester United

    Victor Lindelöf and Luke Shaw ruled out. Jonny Evans doubtful.


    Nottingham Forest

    Danilo and Ibrahim Sangaré ruled out.


    Know The Opposition

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    Nottingham Forest Football Club (nicknamed The Tricky Trees or The Garibaldi) is an association football club based in West Bridgford, Nottinghamshire, England. The club was founded in 1865 when a group of players met at the Clinton Arms on Nottingham's Shakespeare Street, and J. S. Scrimshaw's proposal to play football instead was agreed. At the same meeting that the club would purchase twelve tasseled caps colored Garibaldi Red (named after the leader of the Italian Redshirts freedom fighters). Thus the club's official colors were established. In their early years Forest were a multi-sports club. As well as their roots in bandy and shinty, Forest's baseball club were British champions in 1899. Forest's charitable approach helped clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal and Brighton & Hove Albion to form. In 1886, Forest donated a set of football kits to help Arsenal establish themselves – the then South London team still wear red. Forest also donated shirts to Everton and helped secure a site to play on for Brighton.

    In 1878–79 season Forest entered the FA Cup for the first time. Forest's application was rejected to join the Football League at its formation in 1888. Forest instead joined the Football Alliance in 1889. They won the competition in 1892 before then entering the Football League. In 1905, Nottingham Forest toured South America to play a series of friendly matches in Argentina and Uruguay. They would be followed for other English and Scottish clubs that visited the region, contributing to the spread and develop of football in South America during the first years of the 20th century. Brian Clough was appointed manager of Nottingham Forest on 6 January 1975, twelve weeks after the end of his 44-day tenure as manager of Leeds United. Clough brought Jimmy Gordon to be his club trainer as Gordon had been for him at Derby County and Leeds United. The first trophy of the Clough and Taylor reign was the 1976–77 Anglo-Scottish Cup. Forest led the First Division for most of the season and were confirmed as 1977–78 Football League champions after a 0–0 draw against Coventry City on 22 April 1978, becoming one of the few teams (and the most recent team to date) to win the First Division title the season after winning promotion from the Second Division. Subsequently they became one of four English clubs to have won the European Cup/UEFA Champions League more than once and one of two English clubs to have won the competition back-to-back. Forest have two stars above their club crest to commemorate their two European Cup victories.

    In total the club has won two European Cups, one UEFA Super Cup, one League title, two FA Cups, four League Cups, and one FA Charity Shield. The club has competed in the top two tiers of English football since its admission to the Football League, with the exception of five seasons in the third tier. Their fiercest rivalry is with Derby County, with whom they contest the East Midlands derby. The two clubs have met a total of 109 times, with Forest claiming the most victories (43), the longest win streak (5), and the longest unbeaten run (10) which runs from the 11th March 2018 to the present day. Leicester City were widely considered to be Forest's main East Midlands rivals prior to Brian Clough's success at both Derby and Forest. The ferocity is now most fiercely felt by fans who live around the Leicestershire-Nottinghamshire border.[citation needed] Forest's other regional rival is Sheffield United, based in the neighboring county of South Yorkshire. They play their home games at City Ground.


    Referee

    Darren England.


    Familiar Faces

    Anthony Elanga (2014—23)

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    I think we’ll see a similar team to Everton for this one. Rotation is going to continue until January at least.

    Onana

    Mazraoui
    De Ligt
    Martinez

    Amad
    Mainoo
    Casemiro
    Dalot

    Bruno
    Zirkzee
    Rashford
     
    Forest are no push overs currently in the top 6 and playing well.

    They've lost three of the last four. They're in the process of regressing to the mean. I think we'll handle them, to be honest.

    .........................Hojlund.........................
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    ............Bruno............Mount..................
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    Dalot.............................................Amad
    ..............Casemiro.....Ugarte.................
    ................................................................
    ........Martinez......de Ligt.....Maz...........
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    .........................Onana............................
     
    Onana

    Yoro
    Maguire
    Martinez

    Amad
    Mainoo
    Casemiro
    Malacia

    Mount
    Zirkzee
    Rashford
     
    It will be

    .................... Onana

    ....... Yoro - Maguire - Martinez

    Amad - Casemiro - Mainoo - Malacia

    ........ Rashford - Fernandes

    ................. Højlund

    Subs: Eriksen, Zirkzee, Evans
     
    We need Amad in the front 3. The rest of them are absolutely hopeless atm. He can at least beat a man and create something.

    Onana
    De Ligt - Maguire - Martinez
    Mazraoui - Mainoo - Ugarte - Malacia
    Amad - Hojlund - Bruno​
     
    Just start Amad because he’s the only attacker with a single clue
     
    Onana
    Mazraoui - De Ligt - Martinez
    Amad - Casemiro - Mainoo - Dalot
    Rashford - Zirkzee - Bruno

    Can use the Plzen game next week to give Yoro, Maguire and Malacia more game time.
     
    Onana
    Yoro-DeLigt-Licha
    Maz-Mainoo-Ugarte-Malacia
    Amad-Bruno
    CF*

    *can be Zirksee or Højlund either or imo(both need to be replaced in the future, maybe keep Højlund as backup)
     
    Mainoo and Martinez are starters after sitting out vs Arsenal, Casemiro probably too and Bruno as captain. Rest of outfield positions depend on rotation Amorim chooses.

    Big question mark for attacking roles, as only Antony showed at least anything vs Arsenal - all the others were just bad and don’t deserve to start on merit
     
    I think it will be good to see how Amorim gets the team fired up to respond after a loss. After all we aren't going to win every match, but being able to respond well is very important.
     
    Onana
    Mazraoui - Yoro - Martinez
    Amad - Casemiro - Mainoo - Dalot
    Mount - Bruno
    Zirkzee
    Rotate and get all the players used to the system.
     
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    I don't want to see Rashford playing in attacking position. He has not the techniques to play there, and constantly stays on the left.

    You also see why Garnacho is not yet ready for the position as he has a poor first touch too.

    ----------------------------------------------------------Onana-------------------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------Maguire----------De Ligt---------------Martinez-------------------------------
    Amad--------------------------------Casemiro------------Ugarte--------------------------------------Malacia
    -----------------------------------------------Bruno-----------Mount---------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------Hojlund----------------------------------------------------------
     
    We’ll win this. Never impressed by Forest. Think they’ve had lopsided fixtures are in a false position. Chris wood simply can’t keep scoring goals either.
    I’d give Yoro a start with De Ligt and Martinez.
     
    Onana
    Yoro. Deligt. Martinez
    Maz ugarte Cas. Dalot
    Amad fernandes
    Zirkzee
     
    I can see Mount starting as we should be able to control possession more in Forest's half more effectively than we did in Arsenal's.

    Amad has to start.
     
    Amad and Mount to start.

    Rashford, if he plays, up top only.

    I can imagine they'll be trying their arm at corners, too.
     
    I think it will be:

    Onana
    Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez
    Amad - Casemiro - Mainoo - Mazraoui
    Bruno - Rashford
    Zirkzee

    I don't think Amorim will ease off with the rotation yet. Dalot looks like he could do with a rest.
     
    Forest are no joke but we should be winning this at home. A must win considering some of the other fixtures we have coming up.

    Onana
    Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez
    Mazraoui - Ugarte - Mainoo - Malacia
    Amad - Bruno
    Zirkzee​
     
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    What I'd like to see:

    Onana

    Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez

    Mazaraoui- Casemiro - Ugarte - Garnacho

    Bruno Amad

    Hojlund

    I think Garnacho just suits the wide role better and Amad would suit the inside role. Don't want to see Rashford or Mount anywhere near the starting 11. The former has a terrible attitude and mentality and the latter just completely hides from the ball in possession.
     
    I think it will be:

    Onana
    Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez
    Amad - Casemiro - Mainoo - Mazraoui
    Bruno - Rashford
    Zirkzee

    I don't think Amorim will ease off with the rotation yet. Dalot looks like he could do with a rest.
    This would be my choice of lineup as well. Let the Zirkzee/Rashford combo have another game.

    Although I’d also like to see Amad in the front 3.
     
    What I'd like to see:

    Onana

    Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez

    Mazaraoui- Casemiro - Ugarte - Garnacho

    Bruno Amad

    Hojlund

    I think Garnacho just suits the wide role better and Amad would suit the inside role. Don't want to see Rashford or Mount anywhere near the starting 11. The former has a terrible attitude and mentality and the latter just completely hides from the ball in possession.
    Sadly just don’t think he’ll put Garnacho in that spot even if I think that’s probably Garnachos best chance of contributing right now
     
    i get the pragmatism of the arsenal game but this is one we need to show our attacking intent for.
     
    Onana
    Mazraoui De Ligt Martinez
    Amad Casemiro Mainoo Dalot
    Bruno Garnacho
    Hojlund
    This would be my guess, though could equally see Zirkzee and Rashford for Garna and Hojlund. Yoro and Maguire to come on for De Ligt and Mazraoui, the 2 forwards who start sub off for the 2 left out, then Mount to come on for Bruno at some point.
     
    -------------------------Onana
    -------------Yoro---de Ligt---Martinez
    ---------------Ugarte---Mainoo
    Amad----------------------------------------Dalot
    -------------------Bruno----Rashford
    -------------------------Zirkzee

    Subs: Bayindir, Hojlund, Garnacho, Casemiro, Mazraoui, Maguire, Malacia, Mount, Antony
     
    Hopefully Amorim wont set us up cowardly like against Arsenal.

    His first real test this one.
     
    Some favourable results in the earlier games, with a win Utd could move up to 6th, on goal difference anyway.

    Always seemed to struggle against Nuno's Wolves team, I can see this being a slog.

    2-1 Utd or 2-2.
     
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Score Predictions

155,5,4
  • Man Utd win
  • Nottingham Forest win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 25% Man Utd 2:0 Nottingham Forest
  • 24% Man Utd 2:1 Nottingham Forest
  • 21% Man Utd 3:1 Nottingham Forest
  • 13% Man Utd 3:0 Nottingham Forest
  • 5% Man Utd 1:0 Nottingham Forest
  • 2% Man Utd 4:1 Nottingham Forest
  • 2% Man Utd 4:0 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 2:2 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 1:1 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 0:3 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 3:2 Nottingham Forest
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 Nottingham Forest
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Nottingham Forest
Overall Possession
71.6% 28.4%
Shots
17 11
Shots on target
7 3
Shots off target
5 4
Blocked shots
5 4
Total touches in the box
31 15
Goalkeeper saves
0 5
Fouls
10 13
Corners
5 3

Referee

Darren England