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Stoke City 2:2 Manchester United

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Sat, 9 September 2017 @ 5:30pm BST
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    Date - Saturday, September 9 2017
    Kickoff Time - 1730 Hrs BST
    Venue - bet365 Stadium, Stoke-on-Trent

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    League standings and form guide

    1. Manchester United : WWW

    11. Stoke City : LWD


    Previous Meetings

    Stoke City 1-1 Manchester United

    Manchester United 1-1 Stoke City

    Manchester United 3-0 Stoke City

    Stoke City 2-0 Manchester United

    Stoke City 1-1 Manchester United


    All-Time Record

    Manchester United wins - 38
    Stoke City wins - 22
    Draws - 28


    Pre-Match Pressers

    José Mourinho



    Mark Hughes




    Team News

    Manchester United

    Zlatan Ibrahimović and Marcos Rojo ruled out. Luke Shaw and Ashley Young played in a recent Reserves game.


    Stoke City

    Julien NGoy, Ibrahim Afellay, Stephen Ireland and Ryan Shawcross ruled out. Darren Fletcher, Mame Birame Dioud and Kurt Zouma doubtful.


    Know the opposition

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    Stoke City Football Club (nicknamed The Potters) are a professional football club based in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire. Stoke City was founded as Stoke Ramblers in 1863 when pupils of Charterhouse School formed a football club while apprentices at the North Staffordshire Railway Works works in Stoke-on-Trent, and the club changed its name to Stoke City in 1925 after Stoke-on-Trent was granted city status. They are the second oldest professional football club in the world, after Notts County, and are one of the 12 founding members of the Football League which was founded in 1888.

    Although Stoke haven't enjoyed a lot of title-winning success in their 150 year old existence (the 1972 League Cup victory over Chelsea under Tony Waddington remains their only major trophy), they have fielded the likes of Stanley Matthews, Gordon Banks, Alan Hudson and Dennis Violett over the years. Stoke's most prominent rivals are Wolverhampton Wanderers, West Bromwich Albion, and local club Port Vale; and they play their home games at the Bet365 Stadium (previously known as the Britannia Stadium).


    Referee

    Neil Swarbrick.


    Familar Faces

    Darren Fletcher (at United from 1995-2015), Ryan Shawcross (2002-2008), Mame Biram Diouf (2009-2012)

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    I'll start Rashford for this one and keep everything the same. Keep rotating between Rashford and Martial on the left flank as each one deserves to have a game.

    Gonna be tricky so I'll predict 2-0 for us.
     
    I'll jump in early, I can see this being a horrible game. Proper boring compared to our first three games this season. I also think we'll be lucky to nick a win, just a hunch. I'd keep the same team but once again, I'd swap Rashford and Martial and give Marcus the starting berth. No other changes, possibly Darmian in for Blind.

    Stoke City 1 - 2 Man United
    Jese to score for them. Mata (penalty) and Martial off the bench in the dying minutes to nick the win.
     
    I'm at a festival when this is being played so it'll be the first game I'll miss.

    Could do with keeping our momentum going after the internationals so another 2-0 win would be great.

    The great Mourinho sides are built on solid defences so I'm hoping we can keep the clean sheet run going aswell.
     
    I'd be fully behind a switch to a 3 man midfield for this one, heart says bring Herrera in for Mata head says Jose will more than likely go to Fellaini instead

    ---------------De Gea---------------
    Valencia--Bailly--Jones--Darmian
    -------Fellaini-------Matic-------
    Mhkitaryan---Pogba---Rashford
    ---------------Lukaku---------------

    Subs: Romero, Smalling, Lindelof, Carrick, Herrera, Mata, Martial
     
    I remember the game last year was awful, the crowd wouldn't stopping booing any little thing. The only good thing was Rooney breaking the goal scoring record with a free kick
     
    Were home to Basel in the CL three days after this so I'm sure just will have a plan to deal with the fact that we need to start the group well.

    It's a bit pointless guessing lineups as we have to see what happens with the internationals, our entire team minus a few got called up for their NT.

    Sept Internation Break
    No. Position Player Called Up?
    1 GK David de Gea YES
    2 DF Victor Lindelöf YES
    3 DF Eric Bailly YES
    4 DF Phil Jones YES
    5 DF Marcos Rojo NO
    6 MF Paul Pogba YES
    8 MF Juan Mata NO
    9 FW Romelu Lukaku YES
    10 FW Zlatan Ibrahimović NO
    11 FW Anthony Martial NO
    12 DF Chris Smalling YES
    14 MF Jesse Lingard YES
    15 MF Andreas Pereira NO
    16 MF Michael Carrick(captain) NO
    17 DF Daley Blind YES
    18 MF Ashley Young NO
    19 FW Marcus Rashford YES
    20 GK Sergio Romero YES
    21 MF Ander Herrera NO
    22 MF Henrikh Mkhitaryan YES
    23 DF Luke Shaw NO
    25 DF Antonio Valencia YES
    27 MF Marouane Fellaini YES
    31 MF Nemanja Matić YES
    36 DF Matteo Darmian YES
     
    Yippy, and international break after 3 weeks of premier league football. Jus what everyone wanted! Just do away with the lot of it.

    Anyway, will be interesting to see whether Jose sticks with Martial or reverts back to using Rashford.
     
    Haven't won away to Stoke in the league for 4 years. I'm going 1-1, Jese scoring 40' before Mata scoring 65'.

    Glad to get this out of the way early in the season.
     
    Usually a tough game, but I think we'll end up making it look relatively easy. 0-2. Another clean sheet, and probably another Mkhi assist.
     
    Curious to see if Stoke play 3-4-3 like they did Arsenal and if Mourinho keeps our 4-2-3-1. I can see him get all superstitious and not mess with the system till we lose points.
     
    Its as good a time as any to play them at home, they look very weak at the moment.

    I think Fellaini could find his way in somewhere.
     
    Hughes always bottle against us, good man Sparky.

    2-0 or 3-1 win. Same team would do even though I'd have no problem if Mourinho goes with a 3 man midfield and give Fellaini/Herrera a start.
     
    Mibabalou said:
    Were home to Basel in the CL three days after this so I'm sure just will have a plan to deal with the fact that we need to start the group well.

    It's a bit pointless guessing lineups as we have to see what happens with the internationals, our entire team minus a few got called up for their NT.

    Sept Internation Break
    No. Position Player Called Up?
    1 GK David de Gea YES
    2 DF Victor Lindelöf YES
    3 DF Eric Bailly YES
    4 DF Phil Jones YES
    5 DF Marcos Rojo NO
    6 MF Paul Pogba YES
    8 MF Juan Mata NO
    9 FW Romelu Lukaku YES
    10 FW Zlatan Ibrahimović NO
    11 FW Anthony Martial NO
    12 DF Chris Smalling YES
    14 MF Jesse Lingard YES
    15 MF Andreas Pereira NO
    16 MF Michael Carrick(captain) NO
    17 DF Daley Blind YES
    18 MF Ashley Young NO
    19 FW Marcus Rashford YES
    20 GK Sergio Romero YES
    21 MF Ander Herrera NO
    22 MF Henrikh Mkhitaryan YES
    23 DF Luke Shaw NO
    25 DF Antonio Valencia YES
    27 MF Marouane Fellaini YES
    31 MF Nemanja Matić YES
    36 DF Matteo Darmian YES
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    Martial will start against Stoke. Valencia could be rested since he'll start both games for Ecuador and will travel long distance. The rest won't be needing too much rest. I just hope they all come back without injury especially Jones.
     
    This time last year we when we came back from the stupid international break we lost to city and things become to get more worse, so hopefully Jose takes notes which I believe he will.
     
    minoo-utd said:
    This time last year we when we came back from the stupid international break we lost to city and things become to get more worse, so hopefully Jose takes notes which I believe he will.
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    The cracks were there even before the break. We struggled to beat Hull at home, only took the 3 points due to an injury time goal. The City match we should've drew but that was more on Bravo's horror show than our attacking prowess.

    We are much better going forward this season.
     
    It will be harder against stoke, and I hope we come back from internationals FREE of injuries...
    Mkhitaryan to open them up again...

    I remember a quote from Sir Alf Ramsey after the 1966 World Cup final, saying that Martin Peters was one of the best "Off the ball Players" of his generation...He dragged the opposition players, all over the place, and was still able to slot a ball inside for the forwards, along with popping up, to score himself....

    This is Mkhitaryan now, He roams from side to side, dragging defenders/midfielders all over the pitch, to make space for others...

    He also tries to get free, and always wants the ball, whether he is in tight situations or not..

    Then he can deliver a match winning pass, by splitting a defence wide open...He is always looking for this, and he can score himself also..

    A lot of people do not see this in him, but if you know the game of football, you will see it...I am really glad he is on our side, and I think he will finish as "Assist King" and will win us games, that we could only draw last season...

    He has 5 assists in 3 games (Pogba Never touched that ball,, Thank God) now, and people should appreciate his play...It is not always the player on the ball all the time, who contributes most...You have to think also, of the movement of others, to drag people away, and make space for the player on the ball....
     
    I'm still quite reserved but if we win this game, feck me...I will start getting excited.
    In previous years, this would a certain draw.
     
    I never could agree with the CF taking penalties, just so as he can be top scorer...Penalties need to be converted, and we need an expert at taking them..

    I know that we could need a few penalty takers when we get to some cups, but we need one expert at taking penalties all the time..

    Same can be said for set pieces, Pogba or Mata wanting to take them all the time, When Mkhitaryan is the one who would be most accurate with set piece kicks...
     
    togg said:
    Ah...just weird they chose that match. Stoke V Man utd would always usually be a 3.00pm Saturday kick off. I miss those....!!
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    Not really. Home fixtures vs Stoke are usually 3pm on a Saturday. However, our away fixtures are normally televised.
     
    DDG
    Valencia, Bailly, Jones, Darmian
    Matic, Pogba
    Henrik
    Rashford, Lukaku, Martial

    Getting out with a win and a clean sheet will be extremely difficult, I think. This match will be a very good test for us.
     
    Really can't predict the result, one of the trickiest fixtures of the season, glad we're getting it out of the way early. I'd take a 0-1 now if you offered it to me, if we score in the first half I think we'll run away with it, but if Stoke nick one we could drop points.
     
    Todd said:
    DDG
    Valencia, Bailly, Jones, Darmian
    Matic, Pogba
    Henrik
    Rashford, Lukaku, Martial

    Getting out with a win and a clean sheet will be extremely difficult, I think. This match will be a very good test for us.
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    We may need the 3 man Midfield of:- Matic,,Herrera,, and Pogba, for this one....
     
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  • Man Utd win
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Detailed Results

  • 32% Stoke 0:2 Man Utd
  • 20% Stoke 1:2 Man Utd
  • 13% Stoke 0:3 Man Utd
  • 10% Stoke 1:3 Man Utd
  • 9% Stoke 0:1 Man Utd
  • 5% Stoke 1:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Stoke 0:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Stoke 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Stoke 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Stoke 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Stoke 2:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 1:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 2:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 4:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 3:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 2:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 2:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Stoke 3:0 Man Utd
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Possession
37% 63%
Shots
10 18
Shots on Target
5 8
Corners
5 11
Fouls
10 10

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Neil Swarbrick

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