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"Those are the headlines, god I wish they weren't."
Real Madrid are currently a better club so we can't compare really. They have high standards at that club.Of course you can.
Ancelotti signed a 3-year deal with Real Madrid that expired this summer. He entered the season without having renewed the contract. Real Madrid only met with him to renew the contract in December, and announced the renewal in December 2023. The club waited to see how the season was playing out, liked what they saw.
Ancelotti at Madrid last season and Pep at City this current season?He has 1 year left on his contract. No manager of an elite club should be going into the season in the final year of his contract.
Also, the club will be changing his contract to specify him not having free reign of transfer choices and other stuff due to the new set up.
The new contract is a statement that he's not here because they could find no other proper alternatives but because they trust him and fully back him. Well played by INEOS.And to the people complaining about a new contract, what difference does extending his deal by an extra year make?
With all due respect it is difficult to support the manager after that horrendous season! Also it is quite obvious he is still there by default. As soon as there will be a bad patch there will be blood form fans and mediaSome of the comments in this thread by so called fans are utter ridiculous. Support our manager ffs.
Who's a Southgate fan in here? Because I see noneLoving the Southgate fans meltdown today here.
Like others have said, it'll be to remove the veto. Basically he will be head coach and wont have an over-riding say in transfers etc. Ashworth, Wilcox and Berada will create a style of play, identify the players needed and Ten Hag will coach them. If he fails then someone else will come in and coach to the set plan. No more restarting from scratch every time a manager fails to cut the mustard.I don't agree with letting him stay on, but the talk of a new contract is beyond insane. Even if you believe he deserves another season you cannot possibly believe he deserves a contract extension at this point.
Let him manage the team at least until January and if we're having a good season, then by all means offer him an extension. If not, then start looking for a replacement while running his contract down. It's not like anyone will snatch him from our hands or something.
In footballing terms United hasn’t been a big, serious club since SAF retired.Its Newcastle and we are supposedly "biggest" club in the world.
I think he gets 2 seasons to fix things where next season expectation is just to not get worse than we were last year (maybe some small improvement / positive signs), and he will be expected to deliver top 4 in 2025-26 (barring injury crisis / mitigating circumstances). There's no way he's getting fired next year for finishing 5th or 6th let alone top 4.The downside is
What will happen for him to be sacked in the future ?
Can we go low below where we were last season?
Should they sack him if he finishes 5,6,7th again?
Or they let him see off the contract amicably?
A precedent has been set, if they sack him before he wins PL title then this will be a massive failure, why..
Because why sack him at position 2 or 3, when he stayed at while at position 8
Some people have such red-colored glasses that if someone else doesn't blindly support and are positive about all the decisions the club makes, they are against the club and not a true fan. I hope INEOS is correct and that ETH is the right man, but based on everything we've seen over the past 15 months, I believe they are wrong, and I fear we will end up discussing who should replace him in October.Who's a Southgate fan in here? Because I see none
If you mean all the rival fans, they're all celebrating right now.Loving the Southgate fans meltdown today here.
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I don't agree with "an all-timer transfer window" but I do agree with the general point. That's why I don't get those being condescending to the so-called pessimists. Until we see us have a good transfer window, which we're still yet to do, it's only logical to expect a poor season because it's happened with every manager post Fergie.It's the reality unless we have an all-timer transfer window.
Sancho needs to go regardless. Even if he gave an apology, he's just not good enough.will Sancho apology? Or will he rather build his carrier on fifa (playstation)
Well, yes they are a better run club, so wouldn’t we be sensible to follow some of the approaches they take? They don’t renew a manager who finished 2nd in the league until he shows better form the following season. Shock of shocks, he doesn’t find only having a year on his contract some insurmountable obstacle and his contract is renewed with them top of the table.Real Madrid are currently a better club so we can't compare really. They have high standards at that club.
So we'll just have to wait to reach that level again.
What is this assertion based on?Given the poor quality of alternative options out there I think a good decision has been made.
What EtH needs to do now though (or whoever decides this) is surround himself with better coaches. I am not sure what Maclaren and van der Gaag do. I believe Macarthy has gone.
With hindsight we need more McKenna/Carrick type coaches who the players can hopefully work with better.
Exactly this …although he’ll need to turn it around big timeI don't agree with letting him stay on, but the talk of a new contract is beyond insane. Even if you believe he deserves another season you cannot possibly believe he deserves a contract extension at this point.
Let him manage the team at least until January and if we're having a good season, then by all means offer him an extension. If not, then start looking for a replacement while running his contract down. It's not like anyone will snatch him from our hands or something.
Ah if it isn’t our ray of sunshine. You made my day.Ah the old "I'm a better fan than you" line. Always a winner.
Clear tactical issues we had last year.What is this assertion based on?
No, contributions. In his position he has to have shots, crosses, attempted assists etc.You seem to be just judging performances on goals and assists.
It only makes a positive differenceAnd to the people complaining about a new contract, what difference does extending his deal by an extra year make?
I'd copy/paste that and claim it as my own if only it wasn't plagiarismFor what it's worth, I am pleased that the club have finally stood by Erik.
I think it's the right decision, and it would have been hypocritical of Sir Jim, considering the praise that he has given Arsenal for sticking with Arteta through the difficult early years of his reign.
If there was an opportunity to appoint a manager of the established calibre of a Klopp, Ancelotti maybe even Zidane, then OK, I could understand making a change, but what happened to the INEOS mantra "Best in Class for all football roles" when they are looking at Thomas Frank, Graham Potter & Gareth Southgate..?!?
So to me, it made absolutely no sense to appoint any of the managers that we have been linked with, except perhaps Tuchel, considering his CV, but when was the last time he stayed in a job more than 2 years?
Whats the first thing INEOS did when they arrived, they began to sack the old guard of Arnold, Murtough etc, and appointed proper football people into those roles. That tells you, they acknowledge that the football infrastructure & recruitment was crap, and you can't keep blaming managers for that.
We all know that the problems at this club run deep, and they have been allowed to fester for many, many years, so give a decent manager a chance with a competent and capable structure and see how he does.
If it doesn't improve, that's when you sack him, but at least allow him to do his job with the proper support.
Apart from the ridiculous number of injuries that ETH has had to contend with, also don't forget all the off field nonsense that has caused disruption, Greenwood, Sancho, Antony, Ronaldo, Hannibal, and then the poor performances of Rashford & Casemiro to name but two...and the club being up for sale!
These are all contributing factors that shouldn't be forgotten about.
Lets hope we have a great window, clear out some of the 'deadwood' bring in some genuine quality, and are able to look back at last season as a blip.
"Injuries" ?You seriously think there are no other factors?
Hopefully stick to his PlayStationwill Sancho apology? Or will he rather build his carrier on fifa (playstation)
Does it? I think if you look at it objectively it doesn't say that at all. You need to consider all the factors when assessing the decision.Well, I'm not happy about ETH staying as it shows that it is now acceptable to finish 8th.
HOWEVER, there was a lack of suitable candidates, so I sort of understand where Ineos are coming from.
Anyway, let the transfer window now begin and we must build for next season, so we finish in the top 6.
But wasn't his coaching ability supposed to be a big part of what we signed him in the first place?...Clear tactical issues we had last year.
Unfortunately the coaches, players, executives, and tea lady all let him downBut wasn't his coaching ability supposed to be a big part of what we signed him in the first place?...
The reason there was so much said about his job and this review is because they were not happy with the 8th place finish.Well, I'm not happy about ETH staying as it shows that it is now acceptable to finish 8th.
HOWEVER, there was a lack of suitable candidates, so I sort of understand where Ineos are coming from.
Anyway, let the transfer window now begin and we must build for next season, so we finish in the top 6.
Just like Solskjaer needed coaches better then McKenna and Carrick.Unfortunately the coaches, players, executives, and tea lady all let him down