Depends what our aims are. I’d say Top 4 is realistic without a dramatic window as long as we don’t lose our key players in defence again. In such an awful season we were only 8 points off Villa.
If you acknowledge the number of shots faced and lack of identity as a problem then how is keeping the manager whose insane tactics caused the number of shots faced the correct decision
Having a good transfer market was always going to be more important than who the manager is, imo. If we don't move on the let downs and bring in good players in area we're weak in then it won't matter who the manager is.
The problem was it was a scene that was repeated multiple times in virtually every game. There's compilations on YouTube and Twitter of the very problem.
what? Why do you think there's been constant chatter about how badly we've been set-up in midfield all season? And why do you think we've conceded so many goals and shots? Incredible that someone could not only watch football but also be active on a football forum, be a United fan that is tapped into the swirling discourse about the club, see that snap, and think that it's fine.They must have revised his severance package. No way he'll be getting a gargantuan payoff, surely.
Think it’s quite possible some of them wanted him sacked straight after the cup final to maximise his humiliation. Gotta have some ritualistic drama. A sacrifice to the rage bait gods!
No way a Salford fella says butthurt unironically
Why the quotation marks? If I believe the best thing for the club is to make a change (and frankly I have more evidence to back that up than you have), why does that make me any less of a fan? If anything you are the one placing a misguided sense of loyalty over the club’s best interests.
They must have had an inkling prior to the final what the plan was, factoring in all possible outcomes for what might happen at Wembley. This suggests probably not though, which is why the chatter about injuries has come back to the fore. Feels a lot like they are punching in the dark at the moment.
Don’t think ERIK will read this.
This seems optimistic. We were fortunate to get the points we did and villas form may have tapered off partly because they didn't need to win every game at the back end of the season.
I wish I could be this optimistic about the way it's been handled
You say that like we score lots of goals. We were the lowest scorers in the top half of the table and the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham, Luton and Brentford scored comparable amounts to us.
This
As some have speculated the contract extension might just be a means to change the terms of his contract and take away his control over transfers. And we'd have to hope he's been told that the wankyball we persisted with last season isn't going to fly next year. He's very lucky to still be in a job and I think the timing of the takeover saved him.
what happens if we’re 3-0 up in the first 10 minutes of the first game of the season, and then aliens abduct our players from the pitch, forcing him to play the under 12s for the rest of the season, and we only finish 15th?
Well you'd imagine/hope we can't have as many injuries next season. So if things are still going tits up by November then there'll be no excuse to hide behind next season.
True but the shit served up last season wasn't far behind.
30 years.
I doubt that was a consideration if as reported they are giving him a new contract.
Maybe they are, Southgate will still be tied up with England for the next 2-3 months.
Ineos have undermined him with their rather public search for alternative managers. The only way to restore his authority is with a similarly public backing from the club, which was always likely to take the form of a contract extension.
Considering that they want to change the structure they might need to do that to take away responsibilities from him that are part of his current contract (I think it's likely that there exist some clauses especially about transfers as we know he wanted a lot of control over this - more than INEOS want a manager to have).
True. Ill never forget one game at OT, think it was Swansea at home, and we were in that run where we just couldnt score a goal in the first half. I noticed this weird sound around me, and I turned and realised it was just everyone sat there chatting to each other. People weren't even facing towards the game because they knew nothing would happen, they were just having a chat and a beer and waiting til later in the game when it would eventually kick off. I've never seen anything like that before, not even under Moyes or Rangnick.
Yep makes sense, I'm just saying I doubt they'd keep a manager on they don't want for an extra year just so they don't have to pay off the last year of his contract. Especially if they are making a financial committment to giving him a longer deal.
The only way to restore his authority is by being good at his job. By having coherent Football and man-management decisions, if he focuses on that he will be fine. Things like public backing are useless outside of PR.
