Have to wait for the stock market to open.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
What a way to start the new regime also..
Stop talking sense!
The way you framed your "joke" earlier seemed to suggest that the manager is not to be let off the blame.
Rangnick was to be a consultant for Murtough.
Considering Qatar's comparatively abysmal record with their psg project, tou would have been settling for mediocrity with them, also.
Amongst other things.
Looks like a poster for a Liam Neeson (except the bald part) film
Because the Sheikh would've done what precisely in this situation ?
W R O N G
Should they wait until he comes back off his jollies to start looking?
Imparting emotion into the situation (oh think how he must feel, they've gone behind his back, poor Erik) and making a decision based on feelings is really poor and unprofessional. They're not mates! They're employer and employee, and the employee is no longer suitable for the role.
In fact, how do you even think what they're doing is unprofessional for a football club that has lofty ambitions?
I swear I'm going absolutely mad at some of the stuff being said here
Is that in 2025?
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Should they wait until he comes back off his jollies to start looking?
Imparting emotion into the situation (oh think how he must feel, they've gone behind his back, poor Erik) and making a decision based on feelings is really poor and unprofessional. They're not mates! They're employer and employee, and the employee is no longer suitable for the role.
In fact, how do you even think what they're doing is unprofessional for a football club that has lofty ambitions?
I swear I'm going absolutely mad at some of the stuff being said here
How is that wrong?
Because he has a contract at Manchester United. It is disrespectful and bath faith to be interviewing candidates for the job, especially when its public knowledge. Not even 1 manager, multiple managers, which shows they want him.
If they dont want him, man up and tell him instead of waiting of waiting around.
How do you know that INEOS have lofty ambitions? From the initial signs, their ambition looks top 4 at best.
Which we don't even play under him, but I'm sure you'll disagree.
Do you agree the manager has at least partial responsibility for the players injury?
because if he ends up staying which is likely the morale will be down the drain.
If we’ve made up our mind to sack him then fair enough, sack him first then look for replacements.
If he has explicitly ignored medical advice, yes. Which I don't think is the case here.
Why should they clarify matters before they have to when it's generating big online interest? If I remember correctly, they announced at a quarterly review three or four years ago how much traffic transfer rumours generated so they'll be loving the numbers this is producing. I get the impression they are firm believers of 'there's no such thing as bad publicity' combined with Wilde's principle that not being talked about is worse than being talked about.
this place will take that very well, surely....
It really isn't. He's shown no signs of succeeding long term at United. It would be incompetent of them not to look for a manager that more fits their ideals and potential sporting structure.
I mean, alright then mate
Is that a fact? You know this for sure, right?
What’s cox got to do with it?
Who is Ashton? Dean?
then sack him. Not this useless dithering
Kutcher
There's this recurring theme to a lot of Caf posts, which identify the repeated mistakes made by the supporting structure, and point out (correctly) that they're not ETH's primary job responsibilities - but completely hand-wave away the fact that it's still in his interest to plan and adjust his actions accordingly.
Recruitment staff keeps wasting money on signings and is willing to pay a massive transfer fee for Antony? Not ETH's responsibility to push back, even though the spending here will directly impact our ability to get improve the squad in future windows.
Medical staff keeps clearing players too early and they repeatedly get injured again? Not ETH's responsibility to push back and play it safe, even though playing the cleared players right away will just lead to more injuries.
This is truly a joke…. They should’ve had this figured out and been confident one way or the other. Hopefully that changes once we have Ashworth and others in place.
Whatever the announcement may be, this is not a good look for Manchester United. Hopefully the time INEOS have taken will result in great things but as right now we're the butt of jokes as to the incompetence of the management of this club.
This is why I thought TT was a good fit but obviously not.
You're really missing the point here, this is not whether he is the right man to stay in the job or not, you are clearly confused what we are discussing.It really isn't. He's shown no signs of succeeding long term at United. It would be incompetent of them not to look for a manager that more fits their ideals and potential sporting structure.
I mean, alright then mate
I have no issues for them to look for another manager.. have the decency to sack the one you have in place first.
It shows lack of professionalism when you are talking to managers behind their back.
So I guess you dont mind managers players all agreeing deals whilst being in a job?
They still haven't made a decision 
Yeah we are fecked
Yeah we are fecked
If they come out and back ETH now, the narrative will automatically be that INEOS couldn’t bring anyone else in. The dithering really hasn’t helped anyone in that regard, least of all ETH.
At this point, if INEOS stuck with ETH they could spin it favorably -- "after thorough review, Erik ten Hag brilliantly managed the club through severe adversity" -- but there really is no doubt that they've done irreparable harm to his reputation as manager. And IMO if they keep him ETH all they've done is set him up for the sack at the first possible sign of slippage in the new season.
Agreed that’s the only way they could reasonably spin it, but nobody will really be buying that.
Of course I disagree, I’m not blind. What do you base your comment on?
As someone who thinks ten hag should be gone for bringing antony in alone, as should every single person invlved in that transfer, this is utterly shameful from the club.
Either stick with him and say so, or ship him out and start looking for someone else.
All this stuff is just trashy behaviour. Something I expect from the glazers in fact. So no change so far.
Either stick with him and say so, or ship him out and start looking for someone else.
All this stuff is just trashy behaviour. Something I expect from the glazers in fact. So no change so far.
Crawling to the right decision?
If its 4 nailed on first teamers thats not a bad window. 4 squad players and I would be very worried about next season, whoever is in charge.
My opinion only, but I thought Tuchel was the only possible upgrade from the list of candidates being mentioned. Now that they have seemed to bin him I’m not sure where they go from here. They’ve been utterly disrespectful of EtH in this process and it would be very hard to keep him in post with any sort of confidence, as they clearly seem to be looking for someone better. Who that now is remains to be seen - as long as it’s not Southgate! INEOS really need to pull a rabbit out of the hat to save face now imo.
Remember this time 2 weeks ago when we all thought we'd have clarity by 1st June
Smells more and more like that putrid Glazer stench, doesn’t it?They still haven't made a decision
Yeah we are fecked
There are some real crackers to be fair, the reactions are entertaining at least
Let's be honest, there's not really anyone at all to take over.
Much as I'm sick to the back teeth of ETH, who do you pick who's out there?
Don't really blame them for not choosing someone yet but they should just come out and say ETH is staying and crack on with summer business.
Much as I'm sick to the back teeth of ETH, who do you pick who's out there?
Don't really blame them for not choosing someone yet but they should just come out and say ETH is staying and crack on with summer business.