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Newcastle are on drugs
Seriously. A transfer fee with add-onsNewcastle are on drugs
Probably helps that he’s still getting paid and can do whatever he wants and go wherever he wants with whoever he wantsI’d imagine we’ve had a conversation with Ashworth, something along the lines of “don’t be offended but we’re going to negotiate this hard and set a precedent that we’re not going to be taken for mugs anymore” and Ashworth will agree because it will make his job easier when he does eventually start.
I imagine he’s very career driven and chomping at the bit to get started at United.Probably helps that he’s still getting paid and can do whatever he wants and go wherever he wants with whoever he wants
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So Ratcliffe met with them in person, listened to their request of 15m+5m and said "best I can do is 2m".
Who should we believe? Some random football writer, who has probably built a reputation with clubs not to just blurt out any leaks he hears from them and therefore trusted with info, or the FIFA playing dickhead who whisper shouts when he livestreams because he doesn't want his wife to walk in and say "will you shut the feck up". I'm torn.Tweet
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We can’t even get a deal like that for one of our players£15m + £5m for a suit - Newcastle have lost the plot
Worked for him buying the club!!So Ratcliffe met with them in person, listened to their request of 15m+5m and said "best I can do is 2m".
you can picture it. Him sitting there with his arms crossed casually while his helicopter gets powered up in the background.So Ratcliffe met with them in person, listened to their request of 15m+5m and said "best I can do is 2m".
Ouch that is some gap to still overcome,however much like transfers I think it's a negotiation tactic
Says in the article that Newcastle paid 2million not 4 million.Obviously 2m won't cut it due them paying twice when hiring him from Brighton, but at the same time is hugely refreshing to shift from the "just pay them what they want, he's worth it" school of thought. Hopefully this will permeate our entire negotiation strategy and pay dividends long-term.
I missed that. The Times has reported several times that Newcastle ended up paying 4m.Says in the article that Newcastle paid 2million not 4 million.
Even if we do pay more than we originally offered - rumoured to be 5 or 6m if I remember rightly which is pretty generous if true - they'll have had to pay the guy's wages for the period between and the calculus will continue to decreasingly favour paying up. 6 months of a director's remaining gardening leave won't be worth £6m. Bonkers for Newcastle to hold out for more money tbh as long as what we're offering isn't insulting.Newcastle are not expecting 20 million, they just want more than you've offered.
You'll eventually pay more than you first offered (but not 20 million) and both sets of fans will pretend that their side "won" this negotiation.
Or write messages to Wilcox on a birding forum.On a side note Ashworth should be able to work around this, just create an account on the Caf and post his scouting picks here @lucky Scoutworth or something
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't want a resolution before the summer transfer window has passed. Even without Ashworth working their plans are probably in place for the summer.Football has truly gone mad when we’re paying similar rates for executives as we are for actual footballers.
"First we need to deal with the Bald Eagle, then there's a bunch of ChiffChaff we have to dispose of. Only then can we hope to deal with the blue tits' sort of thing? It's possible I guess.Or write messages to Wilcox on a birding forum.
Thank you for explaining negotiation to us!Newcastle are not expecting 20 million, they just want more than you've offered.
You'll eventually pay more than you first offered (but not 20 million) and both sets of fans will pretend that their side "won" this negotiation.
Yeah disagree with O Neill who thinks we should stop messing around and pay what it takes, he needs to remember doing that will affect future transfer negotiations tooI think Ratcliffe has to do what we are currently doing. We don't want to come across as 'dumb money' anymore as he eloquently described us. For too long we've just thrown money at problems and I think it's good that we are theoretically drawing a line in the sand and trying to be smarter/better in that regard.
I think Berrarda/Wilcox was a good move and takes away a bit of the power Newcastle have in the situation as we are capable of moving forward in the short term without Ashworth.
It's funny cos it's the kind of thing we've been crucified for in the past - weird that the discourse has now changed on this.Yeah disagree with O Neill who thinks we should stop messing around and pay what it takes, he needs to remember doing that will affect future transfer negotiations too
Think it's just because we've wasted so much money.It's funny cos it's the kind of thing we've been crucified for in the past - weird that the discourse has now changed on this.
So.. they care somewhat about money?They could care less about money.
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Didn’t we just hire that Sam Williams guy from Ipswich for the Head of Recruitment role? Or is he doing something else? I’m all for pissing the Geordie’s off as much as possible though, so hopefully we do hire Freedman.Tweet
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Williams is lead scout for 17-21s.Didn’t we just hire that Sam Williams guy from Ipswich for the Head of Recruitment role? Or is he doing something else? I’m all for pissing the Geordie’s off as much as possible though, so hopefully we do hire Freedman.