Mason Mount | Confirmed

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iamking said:
Mount is a fantastic player. He will thrive under ETH. Who cares about the wage and transfer fee etc.. He is better than Havertz and will be more productive in our system.
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We ended up with Weghorst up front for half a season because we overpaid for Antony.

Mount looks good statistically, but he doesn't pass the eye test, like Van de Beek. It's hard not to get underwhelmed.
Back then, many were also shouting for a midfielder that can pass and control the midfield....
 
I suspect he will be a pretty decent signing. Assuming last season was an uncharacteristically bad one due to the mess at Chelsea, in previous season he has been pretty good for Chelsea.

I think he is the kind of player to deliver consistent 7 or 7.5 out of ten performances. Even though he may not be world class this level of consistency we need and don't get from the likes of McTominay or Fred (and even Eriksen and Bruno to some extent).

My main concern is the price considering he has one year left and wages. If we keep the pedal on the gas and get more signings I'm ok with it, if the price restricts future signings it's a bigger issue
 
The one thing I’m really holding onto with this singing is how gutted a lot of my chelsea mates are. They love him, but just cus he’s one of their own, but they really think he’s a great great player.
 
Jim Beam said:
250k+, so we basically offered what Chelsea didn't want to and I hardly see anyone else willing to match that. No wonder he wanted to play here.

Think it's an overpay and don't like the profile to go along with Fernandes in our midfield. Will cheer for him to prove me wrong.
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He’s tactically perfect and can play in several positions.

We are 3 years off City and the ability to have 2 players in every position. Having one player that can play in several spots is essential right now.

He’d be a waste of money if he was 28. As it is, it’s a very solid signing and I think he’ll be great at the club and become a fan favourite inside 24 months.
 
mazhar13 said:
Seeing Matt Law put a negative spin on Chelsea news is a rarity. I thought he'd make this seem more positive like Kinsella did.
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Chelsea have this kind of player nailed down from their academy, hence the reason they’re happy to sell the likes of Gallagher and Mount. They’ve always got another one coming through.
 
Crazy money, so much for a new wage structure!

He's a total meh signing for me, hope he proves me wrong. For me it's one of those types of signing that had we already brought in a top midfielder like Caicedo and Mount is an addition, you think yeah that's good depth, but if he's instead of that type, you can't help but feel underwhelmed.
 
E-mal said:
We pay English players shitloads for doing nothing.
It's a shit deal as potentially I don't see Mount ever becoming a key player in a team likely to win premier league.
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We'll never win the league with Bruno Mason in the team
 
Extremely overpriced and IMO not the player we need, but hopefully I am missing something.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
It's not comparable. Regardless of the league, Bruno's production was utterly ridiculous for Sporting and the only gamble was on how much of that would translate to the PL (all of it did clearly). Mount's most productive season was two years ago and didn't come close to anything Bruno did. Which is fine, not many players can. But comparing them is stupid, not to mention we bought Bruno in to play his natural position as a 10, we didn't pay up for him to go experiment with him in a new role.
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While I respect your views, think it's a stupid take. You aren't getting a PL proven younger player for cheap. As simple as that.

Gone are the days where we could sign PL players for cheap money.
 
The Mitcher said:
Why the hell should our talisman be replaced by bloody Mount?!
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Licha-Vidic said:
Our talisman is 28 years old, yet HE HAS NEVER PLAYED IN A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE semi final in his life.

Our 28 year old talisman who has not won a league title in his career. Sporting won a league title after he left them.

Compare him to Bernardo Silva, same age 28 years. He has won multiple league titles in every country he has played in. Portugal (even if he was fringe player) , France, England where he has earned his cake.

Bernardo has played in multiple champions league semifinals. Scored multiple goals in champions league semifinals. By weekend he will have played in 2nd Champions league final. By weekend he might a treble winner.

By the way they did cost almost same amount of money £47m - £43m, same age 28 years, same physical stature, but one has achieved genuine success without overrating from fans while another has won nothing of substance in his career but treated by a royalty.

If Bruno was as good as many of our fans make him to be, he would have been a very decorated player with multiples titles to boot having played in the biggest games in the planet.
Generally, elite footballers have big titles to show and are involved in big games/high stakes games where they leave their mark.
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That was my reply just before the champions league final.Incredibly, Bernardo had the 'assist' before the Rodri goal.

I dont know why our fans rave on a player who has done nothing big in his own career yet in 2 years he will be 30 years old.
Imagine Bruno having a champions league final assist to a winning goal. Cafe would explode with adoration yet Bruno has never played in a champions league semi final in his career to date.
But miraculously, we want to win big titles with him being the talisman of the team.


If we need to move a level ahead in our pursuit for glory then many of these players need to leave.
Players who have won absolutely nothing in their careers, getting obscene salaries, while being treated like royalty.
The Bruno's, Maguire, Fred, Bissaka, Martial, Sancho of this world these are players who have never won any meaningful titles in their careers, never been involved in any crunch matches as a norm but are revered and get obscene amount of money yet they have failed to deliver to date. Not that they will turn out like Salah.

See the difference, someone young like Licha, Antony, say old Case players who have won league titles do to a team. It's completely visible the difference between a player who has won league titles + champions league and these other players.

Its one thing that killed Arsenal this season. Having players who know how to win. Us we have multiple players who just are okay being in auto-pilot mode of a top4. Harry-Kane style.
 
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mazhar13 said:
Seeing Matt Law put a negative spin on Chelsea news is a rarity. I thought he'd make this seem more positive like Kinsella did.
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Matt Law has posted few articles supporting Mount and being harsh on the club. I think he is pissed off in this case, maybe he rated Mount a lot or doesn't like how Chelsea treated the player.
 
Hopefully he surprise us like Martinez, where majority of us were questioning EtH's.

Mount is on the right age, fulfilling EtH's type of player (hardworker on and off the ball, skillful with pace, and has this fight). And it's good to have more British player in the squad also (just me being nostalgic about Fergie's United).

Anyway, he's our new player already. Time to get excited.
 
bosnian_red said:
McTominay and Eriksen had a good chunk of very decent games together. We are talking about being backup for arguably the best DM in the world who plays almost every game. You aren't getting a top player. Your best hope is someone home grown. I agree he's not really a DM, but functionally to be a strong, energetic ball winner next to Eriksen he's as close as we have, so that's why he'll stay unless we can sign someone to be casemiro's backup... Which seems unlikely.

It's not a big deal to have McTominay as a backup player. People overreact because of ptsd of him playing every game. It's not the case anymore.
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Maybe Kobbie can step up next season to back up Casemiro. Surrounded by mostly first teamers, I think it's a big step but he may just be the successor we need. Hopefully Casemiro avoids the silly yellow cards so he can play most games.
 
mikeyt said:
Crazy money, so much for a new wage structure!

He's a total meh signing for me, hope he proves me wrong. For me it's one of those types of signing that had we already brought in a top midfielder like Caicedo and Mount is an addition, you think yeah that's good depth, but if he's instead of that type, you can't help but feel underwhelmed.
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The 200k limit was a really good joke. I bet agents around Europe had a good laugh at that one.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Yeah, only £3.9m per year more.

Ha, "reservations"

So far today we've had people;

1) Complain that he's not Caicedo
2) Complain about the transfer fee
3) Complain about the wages
4) Complain about him not doing anything last season
5) Complain, complain, complain.

We've also had people come in to proclaim that it's guaranteed that Chelsea will finish above us, that the club hasn't learned from previous lessons, that Mount will be shit before he's even kicked a ball in training for us. All of the posts that fit the above, except one or two, say anything remotely neutral let alone positive at any point. It's just moaning.

"Reservations"? Nah, it's just folk on the Caf doing what they do best; shitting on any piece of good news and trying to bring everyone else down to their level of misery. And it's boring as feck.
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Not with their front 4 they won't.

The way I look at this is, ETH has identified a player that is young, technically very good and suits his system. Might be over paying considering his contract situation, but he's worth it so we can finally bin off McT and Fred for once and for all.

But he's not Caicedo..... because he's needed for when Casemiro is inevitably banned for about half of next season.
 
crossy1686 said:
Chelsea have this kind of player nailed down from their academy, hence the reason they’re happy to sell the likes of Gallagher and Mount. They’ve always got another one coming through.
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Precisely. This is what Abramovich has built Chelsea into and what the current ownership's aggressively maintaining. I don't see why that's a negative for Chelsea. The only real negative here is that they're losing a player who was actually loyal to them. Other young players won't necessarily be as loyal as we've seen over the years.
 
crossy1686 said:
Chelsea have this kind of player nailed down from their academy, hence the reason they’re happy to sell the likes of Gallagher and Mount. They’ve always got another one coming through.
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Gallagher has looked as uninspiring as Mount when I've watched them. Chukwuemeka looks talented though. That Lewis Hall too, but I don't know if they see him as a midfielder or left back.
 
FrankWhite said:
Maybe Kobbie can step up next season to back up Casemiro. Surrounded by mostly first teamers, I think it's a big step but he may just be the successor we need. Hopefully Casemiro avoids the silly yellow cards so he can play most games.
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My guess is Mainoo is one of the 2 other mids, didn't strike me as a 6/Casemiro successor. Though he's really young so hard to say at that age. Think he's a few years off any meaningful role.
 
Some of the reactions in this thread are peak bedwetting. Some people need to give their heads a shake.
 
mazhar13 said:
Seeing Matt Law put a negative spin on Chelsea news is a rarity. I thought he'd make this seem more positive like Kinsella did.
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Imagine if we had to sell Rashford to Chelsea? There isn't a positive spin they can make.
 
pocco said:
Gallagher has looked as uninspiring as Mount when I've watched them. Chukwuemeka looks talented though. That Lewis Hall too, but I don't know if they see him as a midfielder or left back.
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Chukwuemeka came through the Aston Villa academy and cost Chelsea around £15m. They bought him last summer
 
I think he is good player but not special as in someone to take us up another level.

But, I hope he turns out much much better than expected.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
He’s tactically perfect and can play in several positions.

We are 3 years off City and the ability to have 2 players in every position. Having one player that can play in several spots is essential right now.

He’d be a waste of money if he was 28. As it is, it’s a very solid signing and I think he’ll be great at the club and become a fan favourite inside 24 months.
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Don't agree, I think this puts even more weight on Casemiro in build up phase going forward. It is a huge money as well.

But hey, I hope my opinion will look like an absolute idiot and you will be correct.
 
Now this is done we can move onto players we actually really need and who will make a difference to our best starting 11
 
bond19821982 said:
While I respect your views, think it's a stupid take. You aren't getting a PL proven younger player for cheap. As simple as that.

Gone are the days where we could sign PL players for cheap money.
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I think "PL proven" is a very vague term that tends to get brutally overrused just for a player that started games in the league over multiple years. People would have told you Connor Gallagher would be brilliant for Chelsea last year because he was already PL proven with Palace the year before; nope, he was just a crap cardio merchant. There's also countless examples of players that aren't "PL proven" that come in and immediately make an impact.

By your logic though, we should have no issue selling McTominay for 30-40m right? Prem proven, only 26, versatile midfielder. Easy deal yeah?
 
roonster09 said:
Matt Law has posted few articles supporting Mount and being harsh on the club. I think he is pissed off in this case, maybe he rated Mount a lot or doesn't like how Chelsea treated the player.
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It looks like negative stance on the transfer has brought up a bunch of negative responses, so he's deleted that reply Tweet now. I've not really noticed him be consistently harsh on the club about Mount, but maybe he opened up some more on his podcast appearances as well as some of his opinion articles.
 
Definitely an upgrade over Eriksen. Slightly miffed with the price but he’s 24 and will add good quality to our midfield and final 3rd. Happy with the signing. Time to get onana over the line this weekend and concentrate on some outgoing to push for a striker signing. Would be good to go into preseason with players coming in
 
mikeyt said:
Crazy money, so much for a new wage structure!

He's a total meh signing for me, hope he proves me wrong. For me it's one of those types of signing that had we already brought in a top midfielder like Caicedo and Mount is an addition, you think yeah that's good depth, but if he's instead of that type, you can't help but feel underwhelmed.
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You can look at that way, but in the past we've splashed big money for big names that didn't fit the system we wanted to play. This hopefully is a case of getting a player the manager sees as part of the system he wants to implement. ETH seemed determined to get him, it's good to see us getting players we need and not because of how many shirts they can sell.
 
Orange Tree said:
We ended up with Weghorst up front for half a season because we overpaid for Antony.

Mount looks good statistically, but he doesn't pass the eye test, like Van de Beek. It's hard not to get underwhelmed.
Back then, many were also shouting for a midfielder that can pass and control the midfield....
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The Antony point isn’t true at all.
 
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