Rio hits out at Moyes

[Woodzy]

Or, you know, shameless self-centricity? Too high opinion of self and last but not east being delusional.

That's a little harsh. You don't turn down that job regardless of who you are.

There is nothing wrong with David Moyes as a person (well, that's an assumption but still), he was just not cut out for this job.

It's fairly obvious that the plan was to let him grow into the job in order for us to keep our identity, stability and all that bullshit. Unfortunately he was just way off the mark and made us a laughing stock in just one season...

Thankfully it was a bit of a wake up call and we've finally made steps to becoming a modern football club.

 

[Roboc7]

Rio is and was a trouble maker. I think he thought when moyes was sacked his indiscretions would be over looked by the club. Ed recognised him for what he is and told him to sling his hook. We are only getting one side of the story here by a guy with a massive ego. Moyes will never respond to this criticism.

Maybe Rio could be labelled as a trouble maker but Moyes himself said that his plan was to manage United exactly as he managed Everton because that worked so why would he change and that backs up a lot of what Rio is saying. It shouldn’t really come as a shock to anyone that when you appoint someone who is completely under qualified for a job that they are not able to perform to an acceptable level, we chose a manager who we shouldn’t even have considered let alone appoint and no matter what Moyes says it is clear he was not good enough.

 

[predator]

Moyes was way out of his depth. Rio is only giving us real accounts of his time under Moyes. It's not an attack imo it's just the harsh truth about an incompetant man.

 

[thepolice123]

That look on Scholesy's face. Feck me.

 

[SteveJ]

Moyes himself said that his plan was to manager United exactly as he managed Everton because that worked

It's the Hodgson mindset: Roy is forever telling people that his methods have worked for over 30million years, and translated to clubs as varied as FC Conker of Iceland to FC Coconut of Greenland.

 

[Mockney]

That look on Scholesy's face. Feck me.

That's Moyes.

 

[LonelyFire]

Did that really happen.

Ended up having to take shelter in a hotel lobby after getting mobbed by fans. Moyes couldn't work out that doing it with Utd would generate public interest....he's done if with Everton previously with no bother. True story.

 

[JackXX]

I wish there were pics of them training in the park. What on earth would be the point?

 

[SteveJ]

Toni's running backwards in that photo.

 

[walkinhop]

That's a little harsh. You don't turn down that job regardless of who you are.

There is nothing wrong with David Moyes as a person (well, that's an assumption but still), he was just not cut out for this job.

It's fairly obvious that the plan was to let him grow into the job in order for us to keep our identity, stability and all that bullshit. Unfortunately he was just way off the mark and made us a laughing stock in just one season...

Thankfully it was a bit of a wake up call and we've finally made steps to becoming a modern football club.

and @akash02

I am not saying i would have denied that opportunity. I am just saying that he should have been more responsible. For him what was happening was more or less normal since he needs more time. That is why i said delusional, because he didn't see what was he doing to the club. If i am hired to take united(stupid example i know) my extensive knowledge of FM2015 would secure us atleast top 5 if not top 4. I would have bought someone other than Fellaini.

Seriously though, everybody and their daughter knew our problems in midfield. Of course he was going to take the job but he was unprofessional because he was delusional.

 

[JackXX]

That look on Scholesy's face. Feck me.

Scholes?

 

[Woodzy]

To be fair, it never did Rocky Balboa any harm!

 

[Getsme]

Did that really happen.

To go with the photo above.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...hester-United-visit-Bondi-Beach-training.html

 

[LonelyFire]

Is anyone surprised? The leaks of this shit were everywhere all season. From day one it didn't work.

 

[SharkyMcShark]

Rio is and was a trouble maker. I think he thought when moyes was sacked his indiscretions would be over looked by the club. Ed recognised him for what he is and told him to sling his hook. We are only getting one side of the story here by a guy with a massive ego. Moyes will never respond to this criticism.

Calm down Mrs Moyes

 

[Dans]

That's Moyes.

 

[Judge Red]

Rio doesn't come out of this well. Moyes' biggest problem was that certain players weren't interested in playing for or listening to him, and it was already obvious Rio was one of them. That's probably why he's playing for the worst team in the league now when we're lacking in defensive options.

 

[Carl]

Having said that, I'd like to know if there was any truth in the rumours Moyes asked Rio to study Jagielka.

In Moyes' first proper interview after leaving he said that was a load of rubbish.

 

[kouroux]

That look on Scholesy's face. Feck me.

That's gingerist.

 

[.Rossi]

David Moyes, the only man in history with a low-fat chip on his shoulder

"They tell me chips are fattening"

 

[Someone]

This just confirms what we've all thought was happening and i'm glad Rio is letting it out. I respect moyes but he got paid millions doing this job and we deserve to know what went wrong.

Moyes clearly didn't understand the difference between the needs of united and everton. He wasn't prepared for managing a big club and his first decision was to tear it all up, get his own men on board and change the way we do everything. Suddenly it all felt underwhelming for the players and he failed to win them over again.

 

[.Rossi]

Jagielka wouldn't have said that

 

[kouroux]

I'm glad Rio is telling all this. Moyes was a nightmare in every single aspect and those quotes are just confirmations of what we all suspected.

 

[gasmanc]

So Moyes was rubbish, well you just never know do you.

 

[noodlehair]

I don't think Rio has any right to be calling anyone else's performances last season embarassing. He was the worst of the whole lot. Do confusing tactics cause you to lose your marker at a corner or let opposition players jsut strol past you and kick the ball into the goal?

The most shocking thing about him being told he was dropped for the Bayern game is the fact he even needed to be told.

Begining to suspect he has to wear his #5 cap to remind people of his mental age

 

[.Rossi]

I don't think Rio has any right to be calling anyone else's performances last season embarassing. He was the worst of the whole lot. Do confusing tactics cause you to lose your marker at a corner or let opposition players jsut strol past you and kick the ball into the goal?

The most shocking thing about him being told he was dropped for the Bayern game is the fact he even needed to be told.

Begining to suspect he has to wear his #5 cap to remind people of his mental age

Jagielka wouldn't have done that

 

[devilish]

Probably no need for Rio to publicly criticise the man, but he has to sell books...

Im glad that he shed some light of what was going on at that time. There's still to many pro Moyes around especially in the media.

 

[Orton]

I don't think Rio has any right to be calling anyone else's performances last season embarassing. He was the worst of the whole lot. Do confusing tactics cause you to lose your marker at a corner or let opposition players jsut strol past you and kick the ball into the goal?

The most shocking thing about him being told he was dropped for the Bayern game is the fact he even needed to be told.

Begining to suspect he has to wear his #5 cap to remind people of his mental age

That's what happens when players don't believe in a manager. He loses them, and performances suffer. It was obvious for a long time that the players didn't believe in Moyes tactics.

 

[FC Ronaldo]

Good PR for the book from Rio. It says enough to get headlines and generate interest without actually saying anything new.

Inconsistent tactics from Moyes - we know.
Long ball then cross, cross, cross - we know.
Negative vibe - we knew that by mid September.
Player (& staff) frustration - again, we knew that, stories were leaking as early as October

The material in this book so far neither damages Rio's relationship with MUFC or MUFC's with Rio. It also gives him more press and tv time to further enhance a budding future career in the media, which I have to say, surprised me as to just how good he was at it. Came across really well, carried that relative informality but left all the merking and cheap banter stuff at the door.

 

[rpitchfo]

Im glad that he shed some light of what was going on at that time. There's still to many pro Moyes around especially in the media.

I'm not pro moyes - I was calling for him to be sacked in about October. But the last persons version of events I'm going to believe is rio Ferdinands.

 

[SirAF]

Good PR for the book from Rio. It says enough to get headlines and generate interest without actually saying anything new.

Inconsistent tactics from Moyes - we know.
Long ball then cross, cross, cross - we know.
Negative vibe - we knew that by mid September.
Player (& staff) frustration - again, we knew that, stories were leaking as early as October

The material in this book so far neither damages Rio's relationship with MUFC or MUFC's with Rio. It also gives him more press and tv time to further enhance a budding future career in the media, which I have to say, surprised me as to just how good he was at it. Came across really well, carried that relative informality but left all the merking and cheap banter stuff at the door.

I agree.

 

[quackattack]

I don't see why we should keep kicking a man who is already on the grouond. Sure he wasn't the right man for the club, but it won't improve anything to make a deal out of it NOW.

From Rio's POW it is going to sell, but it is not the most sympathic thing to do considering the fact that it will only be more negativity connected towards DM.

I'd say we just forget about the whole shait and move on even if his methodes wasn't right.

 

[devilish]

I think that we had two big issues going on

a) a manager who was clearly old fashioned at out of depth at United
b) a number of players/coaches who were kept at United despite proving that they were not good enough.

Ironically the former is linked to the latter as SAF tried to bring someone who understand the 'identity' at United and stick to the team/coaching staff we had. There's no way someone like VG or any foreign based top quality manager would stick to that shit

In my opinion we've got the classic case of a clique who stayed there for far too long. People who believed that they deserve to remain at OT for reasons which are unrelated to football (past contributions, long term servants, SAF's mates etc) and people at top places who used their influence to make sure that such thing occurs. As Sacchi once said, each team has a cycle. Once the cycle is gone then you have to start from fresh irrespective on how good the people involved in it are. We did so pre 92 when we allowed top quality players such as Ince, Kanchelskis, Gillespie and Hughes to leave. Thank god VG did the same now

 

[devilish]

I'm not pro moyes - I was calling for him to be sacked in about October. But the last persons version of events I'm going to believe is rio Ferdinands.

I recommend you Read the post before this.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Is any of this really any sort of surprise? We all know Moyes was a bit clueless and it was a bit amateur hourish during his tenure... I don't think any of us really needed Rio writing about it in a book to confirm it.

Not that I'm saying he shouldn't have or anything, his book, his career, he can do what he wants. The only person this could upset in any way is Moyes, which I doubt it will, because looking back at it now, he probably realises just how out of his depth he was.

 

[milemuncher777]

Moyes was just clueless and incompetent, but it makes you a special kind of dick to leak team lineups to undermine your manager, team mates and club as whole. Rio should just shut his gob up.

 

[Firstouch20]

Imagine how far ahead we would have been if Fergie stayed for one more season and then appointed Van Gaal as his replacement? Moyes set us back big time.

 

[Wade3]

Moyes was garbage but so was Rio last year. No need to find excuses for your piss poor performances Rio.

 

[devilish]

Is any of this really any sort of surprise? We all know Moyes was a bit clueless and it was a bit amateur hourish during his tenure... I don't think any of us really needed Rio writing about it in a book to confirm it.

Not that I'm saying he shouldn't have or anything, his book, his career, he can do what he wants. The only person this could upset in any way is Moyes, which I doubt it will, because looking back at it now, he probably realises just how out of his depth he was.

I think its needed because the 'identity' vultures are already circling around VG for daring to remove some homegrown deadwood and not employing some of SAF's mates.

I also believe that the people who recommended should shoulder the responsibility of their mistake.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Moyes was garbage but so was Rio last year. No need to find excuses for your piss poor performances Rio.

By that assertion, the only players that can speak out about Moyes are DDG and Adnan... and Rooney, but he can only tell half a story before the book bounces off him and falls 5 yards away.