http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ics-while-in-charge-of-Manchester-United.html
Thank god he's not our manager anymore, is all I have to say.
Rio hits out at Moyes
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Probably no need for Rio to publicly criticise the man, but he has to sell books...
Jesus, some very harsh words there. I believe every single one of them though.
This is gonna be juicy.
Still feel sorry for Moyes; I mean who could turn down the opportunity to manage United if they'd been told by the greatest manager of all time that they're fit for the job?
DM didn't come into it thinking he was an imposter, he thought he was up to it - but ended up losing all credibility and leaving looking like a mug.
That part from Rio about the small club mentality was interesting; we used to set up so negatively against big teams, and then start bringing on defensive players if we went 1-0 up. Just didn't feel like United.
Don't think Rio's being very classy here though, but as KM says above - he needs to sell books.
DM didn't come into it thinking he was an imposter, he thought he was up to it - but ended up losing all credibility and leaving looking like a mug.
That part from Rio about the small club mentality was interesting; we used to set up so negatively against big teams, and then start bringing on defensive players if we went 1-0 up. Just didn't feel like United.
Don't think Rio's being very classy here though, but as KM says above - he needs to sell books.
Having said that, I'd like to know if there was any truth in the rumours Moyes asked Rio to study Jagielka.
Finally 
Looks like Moyes really was as clueless and amateurish as we all thought, and then some.
Looks like Moyes really was as clueless and amateurish as we all thought, and then some.
Oh dear! Not surprised at all, can't wait to hear more. Also from Vidic and Evra.
I mean how just how can you as Champions not even qualify for Europa League? Anyway, good for us and good for Everton too, actually that he'll never ever manage us/them again!
I mean how just how can you as Champions not even qualify for Europa League? Anyway, good for us and good for Everton too, actually that he'll never ever manage us/them again!
I think Moyes taking over at United was a bit like a kid playing FIFA for the first time with his mates. The second they hand him the controller, they tell him "Press [shoot] to shoot, but make sure you hold it for a while, or your shot'll be too weak." And Moyes was so afraid of his shot being too weak that he held the button too long. The result is blasting it into the stands, which is twice as embarrassing.
When he came in, he was so afraid of being seen as too soft that he tried to be harder than he is. He barged in and started demanding things left and right, wanting the club to bend to him immediately, which only ended up throwing things off balance. He was trying too hard. Like that midlife crisis dad trying to look "cool" in front of his son's friends. If you're the proper fit, you don't have to try to be the proper fit.
He's not as horrid a manager as everyone thinks he is. He just overdid it. He wasn't himself, he wasn't natural. He was way too focused on being SAF's replacement and not focused enough on being Manchester United's manager.
When he came in, he was so afraid of being seen as too soft that he tried to be harder than he is. He barged in and started demanding things left and right, wanting the club to bend to him immediately, which only ended up throwing things off balance. He was trying too hard. Like that midlife crisis dad trying to look "cool" in front of his son's friends. If you're the proper fit, you don't have to try to be the proper fit.
He's not as horrid a manager as everyone thinks he is. He just overdid it. He wasn't himself, he wasn't natural. He was way too focused on being SAF's replacement and not focused enough on being Manchester United's manager.
Just seems to be par for the course these days- even from Keane to SAF have done it while still playing or managing. Remember the Keane insight into Mick McCarthy's management tactics -Harry Ramsden's fish 'n' chips challenge the night before the match. This could be nearly as entertaining/bewildering.
He took the players to a park to practice set pieces
Thats straight out of the Mike Basset handbook of management.
Thats straight out of the Mike Basset handbook of management.
This all seems a bit unwarranted.
Haha that's pretty damning though Rio's displeasure with Moyes was apparent last season anyway.
Wonder what he says about Sir Alex and before.
Btw, he deserved to be dropped last season.
Wonder what he says about Sir Alex and before.
Btw, he deserved to be dropped last season.
Love the bit about the passes. First thing that pops to mind is that Everton game where we just passed it around the midfield and defence all game without even trying to penetrate. Definitely seems like the try to get 600 passes thing and 400 passes isn't good enough
It's his autobiography tbf. He has to put in controversial stuff to sell.
Let them eat chips, Moyesy.
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Ferdinand on Moyes: "Moyes’s innovations led to negativity and confusion. It was always how to stop the other side. Not how to win." #MUFC
Again, just conforming what we all knew. Scandalous that this man was ever our manager.
Ferdinand on Moyes: "Moyes’s innovations led to negativity and confusion. It was always how to stop the other side. Not how to win." #MUFC
Again, just conforming what we all knew. Scandalous that this man was ever our manager.
This came at the right time for Newcastle United fans anyway...
Practicing set pieces in a park? As in, a public park?
They have Pardew. Moyes will be welcome after that tbf. Ex Players at Everton atleast spoke highly of him.
I really hope there's more to come
No chips the night before? No wonder Anderson left in January.
Woah! 
Btw, i don't get not having 1 fixed way of playing critique. As the same could be said about Sir Alex' last couple of years atleast but he made it work.
I'd love to see what differences Rio has listed out if any.
I'd love to see what differences Rio has listed out if any.
This is going to be great. Don't get why some are offended that Rio is speaking out about this. I want to hear exactly what went on. Moyes is welcome to say his side too. But the story and the blame of last season needs to be told.
I like that he threw the dig in at Andy Carroll too, I mean, why not?
That seems a complement more than a dig, no ?
As in Having Carroll would mean him getting on the end of some crosses.
The most shocking thing there is Rio thought he deserved to play in big matches. He was fecking shockingly bad last season.
But Kid has a point. Newcastle appointed Big Sam and they had the same complaints about how Sam was all about winning the ball and nothing to do with after they got the ball. Anyway most of these sounds really jarring. His book and he has to sell, but why wash dirty linen in public? I'm sure Ferdinand is not blameless in all this.
One thing I'd say though, I was pumped up for the Bayern second leg, but we approached both the matches as if we were some pub team. It looked all rosy for us, because we played with a lot of heart, but by god we were terrible, conceding possession and getting starry eyed at Bayern.
I think he was surprised that he was dropped for the away leg after having a solid performance at Old Trafford.
I know it's unseemly, but I can't get enough of this stuff. Sort of like watching Mean Girls-the more dirt slung Moyes's way, to me, the better.
Tell us something we didn't know.
finally. Moyes was even more clueless than i thought. No wonder the players turned against him.I read it as, "it'd make sense with him, as that's all you can do with the lump".
At the end of the day neither Moyes (thank God) nor Rio are associated with the club. It can be deemed unseemly but it's something the club can only put behind.
Hopefully more comes out. At this rate will Moyes find a job? Maybe Championship might be his level.
I agree. The Champions League is starting this week and we're not in it mainly thanks to him so I'm all for Moyes-bashing.
I'm such a bitch.
It did require some degree of bravery to take over from Sir Alex. I'll give him that much.
Yet he had been PFA Team of the Season the previous year. Which suggests whilst he was obviously on a downward slope, if he had been managed better he would have been at least a decent contributor.
This won't help the job search, will it now Dave?