haha. go on januzaj!
Manchester United vs Valencia (Pre-season Friendly)
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Yeah this game is all about Januzaj for me.
Do you really see him playing much part this season? Not sure where he would fit into the new formation. Domestic cups maybe?
You make a valid point, and if all the no.10's stay then his playing time will be limited. But i'd much rather LVG let a few players go and then Adnan could pick up the extra minutes playing time.
Also i think its important to remember that the current formation is not forever, it is just the most suited formation for the current squad.
Can't wait for this. Expect a lot of youngsters and Vidal to be involved.
He will find a way in somewhere. He's an essential player for United moving forward, and that starts now.
The match is very close to our First match of the season . I either expect a completely strong team to get them even more fitness or a weaker side that consists of the youngsters like Varela , Blackett , Keane and Januzaj to give the first team rest for the opening day.
I think the first half we will see all the players that are going to start at the Swansea game. Them the other half we probably going to see Januzaj, RVP and Fellaini just so Van Gal can see the afro playing them send him off to Napoli (Hopefully). Hopefully we can see other youngster who did't have a chance on the Tour like Powell, Varela, Janko, Lawrance, Willson and Pearson. Will like to see Blacket one more time and I'm hoping that Shaw start this game.
I know that Januzaj is a real prospect, but the way you guys are talking about him it is as if he's already the finished product on par with Ronaldo, but just that he didn't get the chance to shine.
LVG doesn't like to lose games, any games. So I expect 7 to 8 first teamers plus maybe Januzaj, Fellaini and Blackett. Maybe 1-2 more youngsters after the break.
La Liga starts 12 days later so I can see Valencia putting out a strong side. If they play anywhere near to the level they can, they could be very successful with their quick passing and moving and come away with a win if we are starting a youngish/second string side.
Not one person has said anything like that.
However, he was one of our top three players in every game he played last season, and more often than not the best. So it follows that if we make him a regular starter, he'll be one of our best players full stop. Especially considering he'll be getting better with every year at this age.
Jesus. Our most dangerous attacker bar Rooney last season, and you want him to just get cup run-outs? Last season he got 26 appearances, and we should be stepping that up this season so that he's close to being a regular.
I reckon once Van Gaal sees him, he'll find a way to fit him in, even if that means tweaking the formation.
In this system you'd think the no 10 spot would be best suited to him. But we have Mata there and Kagawa if he sticks around. If not, then i could see Januzaj coming on as sub and playing against the bottom of the table teams, but he won't play full games regularly. If he's not to play as a no 10, then the only way to get him in the team is if he's used as a wing back which seems a bit of a waste.
Nah, Rooney's role up front definitely suits him more. It will be difficult to fit him in though. He could play no. 10, but outside of those 2 positions, he's going to have to adjust his game. Honestly, before he made the step up to the first team, I thought he would end up a cm. I no longer think that's his best position, but he could probably play Herrera's role pretty well with training. I'm not sure he'd be able to play lwb well enough though. A lot of stamina needed for the role and I don't think he has that in his locker right now. Overall, I could see him struggling to make the team as dislodging any of Van Persie, Rooney, Mata or Herrera will probably prove very difficult. Welbeck will provide even more strong competition for him. Considering this, maybe selling Kagawa would make sense afterall.
Januzaj is not in the predicted lineup option.......
........OMG!!!! HE'S BEING SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
........OMG!!!! HE'S BEING SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!No Fellaini and Van Persie too. I'm sure @Niall will add them soon.
Not a big deal as long as all of them are there at the 16th.
Not a big deal as long as all of them are there at the 16th.
Januzaj is not in the predicted lineup option.......
Available nowNo Fellaini and Van Persie too. I'm sure @Niall will add them soon.
Not a big deal as long as all of them are there at the 16th.
Reckon LvG will want to go with the team he'd like to play against Swansea from the start (but injuries will probably have a say in this):
This is assuming Rafael, Valencia, and Welbeck are not yet right.
Blackett, Kagawa, Cleverley to come on in the second half for sure. Probably James and Zaha too.
Pretty sure van Gaal said no to RvP being involved, but I could see cameos for Fellaini or Januzaj if they're up for it.
de Gea
Smalling Jones Evans
Young Fletcher Herrera Shaw
Mata
Hernandez Rooney
Smalling Jones Evans
Young Fletcher Herrera Shaw
Mata
Hernandez Rooney
This is assuming Rafael, Valencia, and Welbeck are not yet right.
Blackett, Kagawa, Cleverley to come on in the second half for sure. Probably James and Zaha too.
Pretty sure van Gaal said no to RvP being involved, but I could see cameos for Fellaini or Januzaj if they're up for it.
I think people are forgetting what its like with no European football - rotation is no longer a factor like we have got used to. There is no "Player X will get minutes" - look at Liverpool last season - barring injuries they played the same side pretty much every game. You are either in the team or you're not and I don't see Januzaj playing ahead of Rooney or Mata (or Kagawa / Welbeck for that matter)
Wilson has to be involved.
Hopefully Welbeck back, so we can continue our intricate passing and dynamic movement upfront that was absent for most part against Liverpool. Moreover, looking forward to the return of Januzaj if he is giving a run out.
First half:
De Gea
Smailing - Jones - Blackett
Young - Fletcher - Herrera - Shaw
Mata
Welbeck - Rooney
2nd half
De Gea
M. Keane - Evans - Blackett
Janko/Lingard -Cleverley - Fellaini - James
Kagawa
Januzaj - Lingard/Wilson/Hernandez
First half:
De Gea
Smailing - Jones - Blackett
Young - Fletcher - Herrera - Shaw
Mata
Welbeck - Rooney
2nd half
De Gea
M. Keane - Evans - Blackett
Janko/Lingard -Cleverley - Fellaini - James
Kagawa
Januzaj - Lingard/Wilson/Hernandez
After Wilson scoring 4 goals today, he should have some minutes on this game.
To your last point, nearly everyone bar Mad Winger would put Januzaj to be given a chance to shine ahead of Kagawa and Welbeck.
Are you kidding? Lots on here were saying that Kagawa was better than Hazard when we signed him!
Not everyone. Certainly not me
Wilson surely has to get half an hour now.
If Danny boy is still out, we might try Wilson in the Welbeck role. I guess by then Hernandez future will be sorted so he might get a chance.
If Nick Powell is fit he'll have a look and see if he's one for a loan or to play this season 'd wager. Might have another look at Lingard and Zaha too? I'd imagine MKeane and Blackett he knows he likes enough to have them hang around
I wouldn't, certainly not ahead of Welbeck. Januzaj is excellent, but getting into this team will be extremely difficult for him. Welbeck has looked fantastic in the new system and will definitely be 3rd choice up front imo. Januzaj isn't better than Kagawa currently so if we do keep Shinji, he'll probably find getting a place at cam very difficult indeed.
Honestly, out of Mata, Rooney and Van Persie, I think Van Persie is probably the most likely to be rotated and that says something considering the quality of the relationship between Van Gaal and Robin. I'm not sure where Januzaj fits into this side tbh, but I'd be somewhat worried if I were him. I hope Van Gaal sorts something out, because his talent and potential is insane.
De Gea
Smalling - Jones - Blackett
Young - Herrera - Shaw - Fellaini - Mata
Hernandez/Wilson - Rooney
Smalling - Jones - Blackett
Young - Herrera - Shaw - Fellaini - Mata
Hernandez/Wilson - Rooney
Shaw as a CM and Mata as a wingback? Explain yourself.
You'll never get promoted with lineups like this
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Didn't Alan Hansen say something along those lines...
I hope soWilson surely has to get half an hour now.
I have to agree with this (but not as much on Kagawa, more-so Welbeck, due to the system we are going to play most of the time).
We have to assume our front three is:
Mata
van Persie Rooney
van Persie Rooney
When fit / in form. As far as starting when one of these guys isn't fit, or coming off the bench, you have to assume this:
Welbeck / Hernandez / Wilson (maybe) replaces Rooney / van Persie.
Januzaj / Kagawa replaces Mata. I think it's a tough call between who is called up first, but I would say it is more important for us to keep Adnan happy and at the club in the long run. I'm happy with either player stepping in though and it is good competition at the club to have these three quality players vying for one position.
There could be times when we drop a striker to play two number 10's for sure, but I think that is definitely gong to be rarer, especially from the start of a game as 3412 is quite clearly the Plan A.
My first assumption would be that Januzaj will sub in for Mata more often (but not all the time), while Kagawa would probably start the Cup games. If we were in Europe, it would be better for the side as all three guys would play enough to be happy, but without Europe it's a bit more difficult to please three players fighting for the same role in the team.
I don't agree or understand why januzaj would be ahead of Kagawa for the number 10 spot. Kagawa is simply better in this position than adnan. I can see adnan being used more as a wide striker I rotation. Especially if we sell Hernández. I get that people think januzaj is the second coming but surely he has a lot to prove yet? To be fair so does Kagawa in a united shirt but for me Kagawa has more about him in the 10 role.
I think it'll be pretty close to the first team that Van Gaal will put out against Swansea.
Perhaps cameos for Januzaj, Van Persie and Fellaini late on.
Perhaps cameos for Januzaj, Van Persie and Fellaini late on.
Kagawa is looking likely to be one of the guys sold. If he doesn't go this season then he probably would look to move in the next as Mata is going to stay ahead of him. Also, judging on last season, Adnan was the better player - he also wants to play as a number 10 so I think we'll get to see what he can do there this term as we aren't looking as likely to play 433/4231 as LvG clearly wants Mata/Rooney/van Persie as first choice in the same line-up.
If we play Kagawa twice as much as Januzaj in the hole then he leaves anyway, we just create a rift of possibly losing both of them IMO, along with halting Adnan's development at playing the position he wants to.
My opinion is that Adnan would accept playing second fiddle to Mata due to his age, while Kagawa would not and would look elsewhere for first-team football. But if Adnan is playing as third choice and getting much limited game-time in comparison with last season, then he might feel as though he has to move elsewhere and we'd probably have another Pogba situation (but at least not losing him on a free).
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