Also, in the run up to christmas, the purchase of a second hand 360 become dubious? Clever move by microsoft.
X Box 360 - anyone get kicked??
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Really? I thought they brick'd them.
In that case the thieving shits have got off lightly.
Nah. Why would you think that?
Don't get me wrong, it's not for any moral reasons...I just can't be arsed with it.
Yeah my mate got banned from it, serves him right tbh. He's getting a PS3 now.
He does know that you can't chip it doesn't he?
Mine was downgraded from Gold to Silver, even though our Gold was yet to be expired.
We've not done piss all to our xbox, but it has been professionally repaired... any way they may have fecked it up?
We've not done piss all to our xbox, but it has been professionally repaired... any way they may have fecked it up?
He's gone for the better machine now he's not swayed by 'hackability' ....
Here fishy fishy...
They made some other errors, that they have now closed off, but, if it wasn't for the DVD drive, then yes I think it would have.
This is rather long and drawn out, and their conclusions at the end are wrong IMO (take a look at around 45 minutes in).
They seem to suggest that the reason for hacking the XB360 was not for piracy. Well, it obviously was. They also seem to suggest that the reason the PS3 hasn't been hacked was because of the ability to run Linux. Well, you still can't run Linux on the XB360 unless you have 3 year old firmware.
Daft thing being is that the XB360 would probably run Linux far better than the PS3 can.
How do the fellas who hack/mod these things even go about it? I don't mean if I pay a fella 20 quid, what will he do, I mean the blokes online who create the original hacks. Where do they even begin?
and I never did get those guns off you.....
I'll be back at some stage, fully rehabilitated...
Yeah he knows, he's wanted one ever since I showed him Uncharted 2.
Conspiracy Alert!
When the time is right, a guy at MS/Sony/etc. leaks the info regarding a back-door or 'intended' security flaw.
Then it's acted upon by 'the scene', proliferated through the internet, and abused by pirates.
Apparently...
Then it's acted upon by 'the scene', proliferated through the internet, and abused by pirates.
Apparently...
Let's be honest though....anyone that's any good at piracy/hacking works for MS anyway.
Do you mean one fella acts by himself to smuggle it out, or the company sanction this? And if the latter, for what purpose?
It doesn't need to be to the same extent though does it. If a million people are downloading games instead of buying them and even only 20% of them would actually buy the game if downloading wasn't an option then that's affecting the companies involved.
And I would wager a damn sight more than 20% would actually buy the games if it was the only option - as PS3 games seem to do OK.
And not trying to score points here, but are the majority of PC users really happy to leave their operating systems exposed to similar feck ups, which MS have less motivation to sort out?
The latter, for a sales tilt. I'm not pretending any of this is fact, but it's plausible.
All these bans happening before MW2 comes out? The amount of people I've heard saying 'Damn, now I've got to go out and buy another box for MW.
Look at it like this. A good portion of the banned subscribers will just carry on playing offline. Of the rest, some will:
Switch to PS3,
Buy another box, hack it, and continue as normal.
Buy another box, buy a handful of legit games, probably preowned. (some people just can't afford a lot of games.)
Say 'thanks for the memories' and get a social life.
Either way it won't make a huge difference to the developers IMO.
That's probably something else entirely.
I'm talking about hackability in its entirety, not just for online gaming.
Well, they've fecked up over that a multitude of times, the number of security patches is getting ridiculous on XP now. For the next revision of Windows, they would be sensible to write it from scratch.
I suppose they will have to in any case with the move to massive multi-core architectures.
Ok, well we'll never know. Downloading has been an option since PS1 and probably will be for a long while. Close one door for the pirates and they'll find an open door elsewhere...
If you actually see what some of the developers (not publishers) think about piracy you'll be quite surprised. I read the other day that a developer released a crippled version of their game to torrent sites in the hope that users would pay to upgrade to the full version.
So what are these chipped Xbox360 going for in the UK?
They make all the money on the software. I don't know if this is still the case, but they were making a loss on the hardware.
Now or prior to the mass banning?
Now.
What do you mean? Do they get a percentage of each titles sales or something?
Yes, if you are not being sarcastic, that's the basic model of the console developed by Nintendo yonks ago. You pay a royalty fee to the platform holder for every disc pressed, or you don't press the disc.
If Microsoft make more than tuppence on an Arcade unit, I'll eat my wife's dress.
Well im guessing very little. I don't know if you could legally sell them on ebay; im guessing not, so its hard to gauge a price.
If by sarcastic you mean retarded then yes.
I understand that but are you saying it's a significant percentage... I figured it was just that, a royalty fee.
I understand that but are you saying it's a significant percentage... I figured it was just that, a royalty fee.
I think that it's as high as 10%+
Thats what I thought. I'm trying to work this out now.
Say you have an elite, extra controllers, the odd chatpad/bluetooth headset/wifi adapter, xbox live over a few years.
Now over that same time how many games would you buy retail? out of that how much are MS going to get?
I guess it all depends on how much of a hit they take on the initial purchase of the XBox. (which was £299 when I first got one)
I don't know what the exact fee is now, although I could try to find out, but it was in the region of $10 per title for the original Playstation.
Even if it's only 10% now, if a game such as Modern Warfare 2 sells 5 million on XB360, and they take $5 per title, that's $25 million into Microsoft's pocket for doing nothing.
Even if it's only 10% now, if a game such as Modern Warfare 2 sells 5 million on XB360, and they take $5 per title, that's $25 million into Microsoft's pocket for doing nothing.
I'm hearing that banned 360s cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile.
"Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this.
The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either."
This would only be the consoles banned in the latest wave. My old one got banned over 2 years ago and I continued playing it until about 2 months back when it packed in.
"Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this.
The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either."
This would only be the consoles banned in the latest wave. My old one got banned over 2 years ago and I continued playing it until about 2 months back when it packed in.
Banned!
PS3 time.
Should I go with a used older unit or one of the slimline newer units?
PS3 time.
Should I go with a used older unit or one of the slimline newer units?
in my job i did some work recently with a company who develop ipod apps and had experience working on software for different consoles
it was hard to believe but only about 1 in 10 games for consoles make any money - it is very similar to the movie industry and only the big games series - fifa, pes, cod etc are guaranteed to make money
The last GTA cost $100 million altho becuase of its popularity it made $500 million
i know apple take a big % of the money each app sells so i imagine the consoles do the same
it was hard to believe but only about 1 in 10 games for consoles make any money - it is very similar to the movie industry and only the big games series - fifa, pes, cod etc are guaranteed to make money
The last GTA cost $100 million altho becuase of its popularity it made $500 million
i know apple take a big % of the money each app sells so i imagine the consoles do the same
so you only lose achievements? your gamertag is fine to use in the future?