For me, I would be extremely disappointed. Because that team would be getting a really competent manager
Would you be worried if one of our rivals poached Ralf to be their manager at at the end of this season?
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I'd be pretty happy that City downgraded from Pep or Liverpool downgraded from Klopp.
Would be interesting to see how he does with their mega squads though.
Would be interesting to see how he does with their mega squads though.
I think he'd do well with city no doubt in my mind. Liverpool, I think they as a team are very strong and they are better than the sum of their parts. A lot of their players I don't think would be near as good playing elsewhere, they are to me the definition of a 'team' with obviously a few expectional players eg, Fabinio, Salah & VVD.
Henderson, Milner, Jones, Firmino, TAA, Matip, Jota etc put them in other teams they wouldn't be half as effective despite the media trying to tell us they are the best in class.
Ralf is doing a good job under difficult circumstances so his stock is obviously rising and would be a loss if he was poached.
However if we could do a swap with Spurs for Conte............
However if we could do a swap with Spurs for Conte............
For what? The worst swap in the history of football?
I’d be happy that we’d have one less club to worry about next season.
Yes I would be because that would mean Arsenal, wolves or west ham would have a better manager than us!
Somehow
Nah, there is a reason no other top clubs wanted him. Didnt sky rated him as a bottom tier manager? Even though, i dont agree with that, ralf will have as much impact bielsa will have if he manages another team without the quality we have.
Not at all
Let’s see where we end up end of season, he only joined a few months ago and is working with a squad that isn’t built for his style of football. Top 4 and getting to next stage of CL will be a great achievement.
Not in the slightest, he's taken over a team in turmoil on and off the pitch and done ok but not great. Don't imagine he'd pull up many trees at another team either.
I think people are perhaps not crediting his flexibility. I think he realised pretty quickly that we dont have the players for his preferred style and has adapted well enough. We quite clearly need a new rb, dm and forward and arguably a new cb
I either want him or Ten Hag next season so yeah I’d be disappointed
Wouldn't be bothered at all.
So happy we got Ralf over Conte. Ralf is imo more knowledgeable and respectable.
Everyone knows we have massive inherent problems within the club. Any manager for United will be measured against a different stick.
Everyone knows we have massive inherent problems within the club. Any manager for United will be measured against a different stick.
No. I’d like him to stay on as a consultant as planned, though. He seems to have a pretty good grasp of what the problems are.
He's a good manager in a toxic dressing room. I don't think our performances are indicative of how good he actually is.
But good is about as far as I'd take it.
Almost certainly not somebody who's good enough to shift the title odds at another club imo. I'd probably put him on par with about 10 other managers in the PL.
But good is about as far as I'd take it.
Almost certainly not somebody who's good enough to shift the title odds at another club imo. I'd probably put him on par with about 10 other managers in the PL.
You all know that he signed a deal with consultancy for two years after the management?
Unless he can do both which I very doubt
Unless he can do both which I very doubt
He won't be replacing Pep, Klopp or Tuchel and I don't reckon he wants a job at Everton or Spurs, knowing he'll be far down in the decision making apparatus. So the best job he could get is Arsenal and that would be potentially worth worrying.
Yup, but don't forget he was also in a non-managerial position when we poached him. Who's to say that he wouldn't cut short the consultancy stint for a managerial position? I always thought the consultancy role was a consolation prize of sorts for not getting the job permanently. So he is probably not that hung up on it.
Chelsea wanted him before Tuchel, to be fair. I'm not sure Sky ratings are the best to gauge a manager's ability off, they always had Solskjaer as the worst but he finished 3rd and 2nd so he can't have been that bad.
I'm relatively happy with what Rangnick's done but if Pochettino or Ten Hag are available and willing to join then I'd be disappointed if we opted to stick with Rangnick.
We were prob the worst team in the league got most of his time here relative to squad and fixtures we had. Last few weeks have shown promise. But it would be insane if he was manager next season
Well obviously City and Liverpool dont need him but Id be pissed if he went to Newcastle.
Noooooo
He was
If he was our permanent manager and had been allowed to bring in the coaches he wanted to, along with a couple of signings in January we may have seen a more improved version of football, than where we are.
I think Utd already have the next manager ready for the summer and thats why RR was brought in, as whoever it is, wanted to see the season out, or wasnt allowed to leave in season.
I think Utd already have the next manager ready for the summer and thats why RR was brought in, as whoever it is, wanted to see the season out, or wasnt allowed to leave in season.
It depends on how we finish the season, surely? Rangnick has done really well, but at this point I still think we should be aiming better.
There is a good chance that Ralf would do well in Liverpool since their players have been trained and developed to adapt a philosophy that Ralf is trying to implement here.
Take away the names. Look at the starting base, and what has been spent. In his first 3 months Ralf Rangnick is doing a better job than Pep and Klopp. I think people are forgetting both Klopp and Pep had very difficult first seasons, especially Pep considering how much he spent. Both manager’s struggled to implement their style of play / systems and both manager’s had to tweak it.
Ralf is getting results and has improved the defence, he’s shown the intelligence to not enforce his style to the extent that it will go above our players heads/ability and jeopardise top 4. He’s showing the right balance between Mourinho’s throw players under bus Vs Ole’s don’t say a word. I think Ralf might actually be the manager this club needs for the next 2-3 years.
PS. Also look at the first name we were linked with when Rangnick became interim, later signed by City.
Ole spent 300 mil to take this team absolutely nowhere and, most importantly, with 0 identity other than counter attacking football that worked in 2004.
It's so obvious RR is trying to add some tactical flexibility and some patterns of play, but the players just don't cut it:
- our main LB suddenly got fat and isn't arsed to run because he needs to prove himself all over again to a new manager
- our RW/LW/ST local boy is going through a love drama and can't be arsed to do anything else other than shooting from 40 yards
- our captain is an 80 million waste and horribly out of form
- our striker is 37, can't press, can't dribble, but it's the only one that can actually play football with the ball on the grass other than Bruno, Sancho and Pogba
- Bruno, even though he gets an assist here and there loses the ball 8 times out of 10.
So, a manager that's doing just fine, with a burned out squad that's not even his squad doesn't deserve to be here next season? Why, because your pony pick Ten Haag might be available?
I like ETH, I like him a lot, but he's quite brutal, Pep level of brutal. Bring that manager in here with these overpaid kids and primadonnas and we're in for another half a billion rebuild.
I'm not saying RR's doing a wonderful job, but definitely it won't be a crime if he's here next season.
Would ETH be a better choice, especially alongside Ragnick, yes, he might, but not with the current squad, not even close.
I think you’re totally missing the point of assembling a team then. That’s six or seven players who work like feck. Who carry the piano as Fred would say. Salah Mane and the others wouldn’t be the same players without their intensity behind them. In fact I’d be willing to bet if you put Salah into a low pressing low energy side he’d look a lot more ordinary. That’s the beauty of recruitment and having a club and manager with a clear vision. These hard working players became a unit much better than their previous attributes and stats suggest. That’s how you find value. We have a rag tag bunch who can’t decide if they want to work or not. Look at Pogba. They probably pay their whole midfield close to what we give him. Which is better?
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Absolutely no question. He's had no support within the club and he's here as a lame duck with a toxic dressing room. Under the circumstances he's doing a very good job and he's the classiest thing about United since SAF by an absolute mile.
Let’s face it, a former drug taker could manage City. Oh, one already is.
I’d be delighted if he went to City or Liverpool because he’s not as good as their managers. I don’t think anyone is.
He’d improve Arsenal.
He’d improve Arsenal.
2006: “ he’s not a striker, Ronaldo’s a winger shoved up front for key matches because he lacks the discipline to track back”
No. Competent manager he may be, but he's nothing more than that.
We can do better than him. He is much worse than Pep, Klopp and Tuchel. Arteta and Conte better too.
What are you smoking lad?
He's already in mental breakdown mode and before that he lost it when Jose said he was bald