We turn on them when they are terrible, not when they are good. That's football mate. You call out those who are bad, regardless of how good they once were.
Will Ronaldo ask to leave in the summer?
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We turn on them when they are terrible, not when they are good. That's football mate. You call out those who are bad, regardless of how good they once were.
3 of those should never have been bought in the first place.
Greenwood hasn't dropped in form. Not really. He just gets taken off when coaches are too afraid to upset people like Ronaldo, Rashford or Bruno.
He's a young player, finding his way. But he's getting punished for the poorer performances of those who should be leading by example.
Criticising them is one thing, saying that they should leave or be sold is another.
I'm sure City would gladly take him. Or Newcastle, if they stay up.
My countdown will have been for nothing.
I'm not sure about you, but I see other threads on this forum too that aren't about him.
City would have a luxury of playing him in exactly the games which Guardiola deems advisable for him to play and he'd have zero problem hooking him or leaving him on the bench. If he throws a strop they'd just permabench him and not bat an eyelid. United due to various circumstances cannot do any of that.
Good post. Greenwood was the best striker today, yet Jones and De Gea apart he was also the 3rd best player and subbed. Awful management.
He has but not enough and that's not solely dependent on him. There's a lot of factors affecting our current state and not all of it is Ronaldo. He's not reaching his full potential(we all know what he's capable of) because of how him and the other players are being utilized. Blaming him for our current state is a bit biased and it stems from frustration and personal feelings towards him.
Don't you think lack of motivation from not being in team that can't get their shit together is contributing to that rather than Ronaldo?
Again his performance is relative to how he's being utilized and it's not only being a good player on the field that determines success. Tactics play a part and that's not on him.
So Ronaldo is negatively affecting everyone's form...how?
And we played like a team before? Why did we get rid of Ole then? Is Ronaldo responsible for that too?
Who said the dressing room is broken and why do you think he's responsible for that?
I hope he stays. But if he were to leave, what do you think is more likely...
Juventus return
PSG
MLS
Sporting
Juventus return
PSG
MLS
Sporting
I'm not blaming him on anything, just curious how you think he has improved us.
I think he'd do extremely well with City.
None of them.
Yeah ..obviously the best player of all time ..clearly his fault we’re so crap ..no ?
Of course .But after another bad result we have a thread asking will he leave ? Pathetic stuff.
The day he returned will likely be the highlight of the season. But yeah, I'd imagine he will leave - no way he's not playing in Champions League next season. I'd love to see PSG sign him if only to see Messi and him play together.
He probably would, but there is no way he would play in the starting XI nearly every game like he does at Utd, and if Guardiola, say, thinks that he can't risk fielding an outfield player with a non existent work rate against Liverpool for example then it would be bench for him and he'd have to accept it. Certainly that is an element he took into consideration when making a choice where to sign.
It's not done and dusted yet but yeah he will leave if there is no CL football. Unlike a lot of people here I can see the upside and the downside of that scenario
Nothing is certain but you could be right, man. Also Ronaldo worked pretty hard (for striker standard). I'm not buying this "non-existence work rate" claim. He's no less work hard than Kane (which City was interested in), for instance.
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We stopped him from scoring a load of goals for City on the way to lifting the Premier League trophy with them. That’s it. That’s what the club paid that money for. I can’t see why either party would want to continue this into next season.
I think it would be good for him to leave...I do. I see no benefits in having him. In a different team he may well have worked out but we have more problems to deal with right now and need a striker who offers more in terms of involvement in our attacking in general, not just looking to be on the end of things.
You rank Maguire as one of our best players? Phil Jones did more today in 95 minutes than he has all season.
I am more worried if we'd be in the Europa next season. Ronaldo can do whatever he wants.
He absolutely will. He is not ending his career in the Europa League/Conference League.
Might not be so bad.
I don't really care, just want the team to do well.
I don't really care, just want the team to do well.
Honestly, who cares?
Its better we separate 
He clearly is nowhere near the best player in the world now. So means nothing.
I really hope so. We need to move on as quickly as possible and try to get a striker in their prime or has their best years ahead of them.
So say no to Haaland then?
Yes, he won’t want to waste another year here and we need a longer term solution. Makes sense all round.
Agreed, he is the best player, stat wise especially, of all time. But that's the thing about 'time', it changes shit.
i.e. he is no longer the best player in the world and whilst its not his fault at all, United are simply not better with him at this stage of his career. In fact vs the team that was making decent progress in the last 2 seasons, we are a fair bit worse.
PSG might be interested in bringing him in if they lose Mbappé. Softens the blow at least from a media/PR perspective
It’d be a shame if his career ends in this way. He should go to PSG and win a couple more trophies.
Feck him, petulant tosser.
Told ye and remember the absolute slating I took for saying this was how it would end up and we are barely half way through the season. His CL goals have been priceless and the only bright spot in a horrible season but all our other forward players have gone backwards supporting him. We have no notion of winning the CL so it’s just delaying the inevitable. The team is totally predictable and one dimensional, just like what Juve became. It’s toxic when he doesn’t win. The warning signs were there with his dynamic with Bruno at international level but we can’t seem to take the hint. Anything to generate marketing opportunities. Learned nothing from Rooney Sanchez etc. Seems to also have caused issues in the dressing room to come to a major head. I don’t mind Ronaldo but it was a fantasy bringing him back like this when he was finishing up. We should have been paying him 5/600k a week back in 2009 and watching the best player in the world and capitalising on our momentum but as per usual we are totally backwards and reactive. Man Utd greatest hits tour has hit the rocks.
Nobody is taking those wages on. We are stuck with each other for another year and a half
Nobody is taking those wages on. We are stuck with each other for another year and a half
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Leave and go where exactly?
The only options I can see that can afford his salary - £500K+ per week - and would fit in would be PSG or Atletico. The latter out of the question due to his lack of workrate + already carrying an OAP + Ronaldo's history with Real Madrid.
PSG? Possible, but would be tactically suicidal. Messi/Ronaldo/Neymar would be awful. And I'm pretty sure Neymar, Messi and the Argentinian contingent have issues with Ronaldo too.
I don't see where he goes.
The only options I can see that can afford his salary - £500K+ per week - and would fit in would be PSG or Atletico. The latter out of the question due to his lack of workrate + already carrying an OAP + Ronaldo's history with Real Madrid.
PSG? Possible, but would be tactically suicidal. Messi/Ronaldo/Neymar would be awful. And I'm pretty sure Neymar, Messi and the Argentinian contingent have issues with Ronaldo too.
I don't see where he goes.
Couldn‘t care less. And can‘t hear anymore how we need winners like him. Yes he is a winner, he will also be a winner in 5 years. Doesn’t mean we always keep him just because of that.