If we've "nestled" into not looking like title contenders by November then the pressure on Solskjaer will be insane. Whether posters on Redcafe want to accept it or not, those are the expectations he is going to be held to this season by the broader football-watching public and media.
Why the heck #OLEOUT is trending again?
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If we've "nestled" into not looking like title contenders by November then the pressure on Solskjaer will be insane. Whether posters on Redcafe want to accept it or not, those are the expectations he is going to be held to this season by the broader football-watching public and media.
Personally, if we are nestled comfortably in that zone at the end of the season, he needs to go.
People really need to get a grip, yes everyone is upset as we didn't win and the performance wasn't good but its our second game, we are already better off than last season so its not the end of the world.
Ouch
Shit selections, shit response to the game and poor game management again. Ole needs to shoulder part of the blame for this poor result.
We deserved feck all. How many shots we had today?
Sorry, but that was no smash and grab. Last 15 minutes they looked more like scoring than we did.
Every team plays defensive midfielders/passing midfielders. Jorginho and Kante, Xavi and Busquets, Casemeiro and Kroos, Fernandinho. I can't think of a single top team in the last 10 years that hasn't had at least one non-attacking midfielder.
Simply because once again we lack an identity, shape and showed a lack of ability to change in game time.
Also why do we play a new signing out of position when we've be crying out for an out and out right winger for years.
Varane does not change the sucess of the club when fully integrated with us playing a two man holding midfielders.
So much for Oles vision to play one out and out defensive midfielder.
Also why do we play a new signing out of position when we've be crying out for an out and out right winger for years.
Varane does not change the sucess of the club when fully integrated with us playing a two man holding midfielders.
So much for Oles vision to play one out and out defensive midfielder.
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Do we need to play both Fred and Matic though?
By the media, maybe. But if you believe:
a) United are going to challenge for the title this season
and
b) Ole will be sacked if we fail to challenge for the title this season
... then you are just setting yourself up for disappointment on two fronts.
It will be game 2 of the 2025 season, still no major trophy , screaming we are only 2 games in
This is more or less accurate.
I find it stunning that some of our supporters look at that team today and genuinely seem to expect it to win the title.
Ole out is trending because people want a world class manager like Poch.....
"We have improved from 2018".
Thats why we will never win anything with Ole in charge. He thinks he is the 2nd Fergie, when really they are polar opposites.
If Ole does not take this team where it aims to be, then United should do him the same thing that Chelsea did to an oud-of-his-depth Frank Lampard. Seriously, just feck sentimentality.
No they didnt. They could have beaten us today.
What?We thrashed them 5-0 in Germany! It could easily have been more. It was a total dismantling of Nagelsmann's approach which made him look like a kid playing at being a manager. And sure, they came back and beat us 3-2 here, which was a major feck-up. But even on balance that's a 7-3 aggregate scoreline.
So the head to head is 1 win each…
Its hypocritical to moan at others for wanting Ole out after 3 years worth of games, and you’re basing your assessment of Nagelsmann on just 2 games.
We have to be challenging with this squad.
How can it not?
Sancho wasn't starting, nor varane, rashford and cavani not even on the bench.
We the fans think we need a midfielder but ole doesn't seem to think so.
Do we think the 433 thing was all hot air?
Yep.
Because the midfield is full of bang average players.
I think Ole wants a midfielder desperately. He’s already made comments in the media which indicate he’d like more signings.
I'll not be convinced until he buys at least one.
It's the same as Ole saying we will not be out-run or out-worked, we will only sign and keep players who want to play for this club and that players will be picked by their performance.
It's all a load of bullshit which fans love to hear and rarely applied.
Tuchel didn’t need 5 yrs
Challenging for the title isn't the same as winning the title and most of us are talking about the former rather than the latter.
But yes, our side should absolutely be challenging for the title. It's an excellent squad that has some weaknesses but all the other potential challengers have some weaknesses too.
City quite literally don't have a centre-forward yet they'll still be expected to challenge for the title. Chelsea have a pile of players who (if they were here) would have question marks all around them but are expected to challenge for the title. Liverpool are coming off a disastrous season having done relatively little strengthening over the summer but will be expected to challenge for the title.
I'm not so bothered about today as there are quite a few players who have yet to gather full fitness and work their way to the team. But the downplaying of our prospects of challenging reeks of people trying to pre-emptively protect a manager who (if he is a manger on par with Klopp, Guardiola, Tuchel, etc. as he should be) should have the same expectations as those managers applied to him this season.
I think we will challenge, especially when the likes of Sancho, Varane and Cavani are integrated into the first team. But I think our weakness in midfield is a bit of an outlier. I think it’s an extraordinary weakness at this level. More than a weakness; more like a gaping hole in which aggressive sides like Southampton will continue to exploit, especially when we’re away from home.
It trending because he picks the wrong team too often. Sancho sat on his £75m arse for most of the match, Varane been here for two weeks and isn’t fit. Lukaku played today, he’s been at Chelsea a few days. Fred,Martial need to go but who would buy them? I would like to see more emotion from him. He said they were tired!! One game a week ago and they’re tired? Please. And that away kit is crap.
Must be nice having a world class manager who isn't afraid to make big calls.
Again if it’s such a massive hole then why has the manager not done anything to fill it up . He let Herrera go who is still starting for PSG and then we bought a midfielder last summer for 40 million who can’t get on the pitch at all . VDB was one of the few players who didn’t play in the Euros and yet the manager just won’t play him at all. Getting outplayed by a club like Southampton with limited resources is embarrassing frankly
There have been lots of holes to fix post Van Gaal/Mourinho, sadly. I think the Herrera situation was more to do with the club and Van de Beek was bought to provide cover and competition for Bruno. Granted, he’s yet to convince or make a mark.
If it were up to Ole then I think we’d still be spending. Midfield being the priority.
It is a true statement but, now it’s time for the next step, just like city did by bringing in Pep, Liverpool with Klopp and most recently Chelsea and Tuchel.
The players can improve but I hope ole looks at himself as well, why is matic starting, why change an attack 3 which scored 5, and the change wasn’t sancho…but freaking martial.
That’s basic stuff surely
second game of the season, dont panic.
If Matic was better, then probably not.