I think that LvG used his contacts thus bypassing the club structure in pretty much most of the negotiation process. Mou did that as well up until the last season. They brought him Fred
Why do we pay high wages?
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I think that LvG used his contacts thus bypassing the club structure in pretty much most of the negotiation process. Mou did that as well up until the last season. They brought him Fred
I have to agree, this forum is cluttered up with shite and I tend to ignore most threads as most titles are just statements that are regurgitated.
Feel free to raise the quality!
Exactly. Apparently all our players are highest paid players in the league but when it comes to total wages reported by the clubs, all are almost same. It doesn't make sense.
So why are you adding to the shite?
United pay the wages they can afford, it's run as a business in order to make money. If they didn't have the money then they wouldn't pay the wages!!
United wage bill has been slashed massively over the last 3 years or so, to the point whereby Liverpool are actually very close to us now.
Salah is on £260k a week approx, that will have to go north of £300k for him to sign a new contract, we have Trippier on £145k a week at Newcastle now,
To say we are the only team paying top dollar is inherently wrong!!
United wage bill has been slashed massively over the last 3 years or so, to the point whereby Liverpool are actually very close to us now.
Salah is on £260k a week approx, that will have to go north of £300k for him to sign a new contract, we have Trippier on £145k a week at Newcastle now,
To say we are the only team paying top dollar is inherently wrong!!
The "top talent" we've attracted so far have been mostly trash. Maybe when doing the same thing over and over fails so consistently, it's time to try something different.
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No. Utd pay massive wages as our negotiators led by Ed are useless and inexperienced clowns. We jump into transfers like Sanchez and Fred when we here City or others are itnerested without proper scouting. We also play ludicrous fees. Our wage bills need a reset along with everthing else. So we pay more to Sancho apparenely than Salah will get. Madness. Stop defending the muppets running this club
I’m curious to see how your mind functions. Admittedly posting rubbish whilst agreeing that the forum is full of low quality threads..
You are wasting your time here buddy!
Ever thought about studying Psychology?
Simply because we don't have a specific project and plan, we can only attract players by over paying them. Sadly we don't have structure and our scouts not up to the level neither our previous managers.
I’m just trying to make a dull, pointless thread more interesting.
Lift the quality etc
Kane wants to leave, and Salah is asking for better pay. Tielemans did not renew his contract yet, you do not need to make up things just to say United pay too much while the rest are happy to be paid peanuts.
Because we know that we couldn't replace our quality players with better quality players, so we had to atleast make a financial statement out of the ones we let go. So we made sure to keep hold of them at any price so we could retain their value as assets even if they wanted to leave, not realising that the only clubs who could afford their wages after our stupidity, didn't really want those players at all. Like FFS, Henderson is the 4th highest paid keeper in the league.
United don't have the success to draw quality players to the club purely on that any longer. We also don't have the 'you'll grow into a better player' promise that a club like Dortmund could give. If you can't offer a player success or development, you better line their pockets enough so they can wipe their tears away with the money.
United don't have the success to draw quality players to the club purely on that any longer. We also don't have the 'you'll grow into a better player' promise that a club like Dortmund could give. If you can't offer a player success or development, you better line their pockets enough so they can wipe their tears away with the money.
When did Kane hand in a transfer request and when did he say he wanted more money?
Just post the link.
Imagine Rashford and Greenwood’s levels of selfishness if their pay was purely based on goals scored.
I agree that, in theory, it should be the way. However, in practice it creates more problems than it solves.
Or maybe they are just a bit more professional than our lot and don't go running to their mates in the press because of stuff that doesn't belong in the press. You know, like a professional is supposed to.
Lower base salary with performance based bonuses is the way to go. Any player refusing it can leave, and any potential new signing can go elsewhere. It'd weed out wasters like Martial and we'd never end up making a mistake like Sanchez again. In fact it sounds so simple that I'm surprised wage rises and bonuses given for improved performance and success doesn't happen in other industries. Oh wait, it does.
Agents know we have a lot of cash and want their players to get a piece of the pie. Every time we get a new tractor tyre sponsor in some far corner of the world they take notice. And players expect to get paid well when they come to Man Utd (as they do in RM, Barsa and the like).
The problem is getting players to perform up to their wages.
The problem is getting players to perform up to their wages.
We do not know what the wages paid at City, Liverpool, Chelsea & United entail, such as basic salaries, bonuses, etc..., but what we know is in the year ending June 2021: -
These numbers are inclusive of all players and staff, it also includes pension payments and so on.
It is clear we are not the highest paying wages in the PL, but, we are too close to teams that have won trophies, or progressed very far in UCL, probably our wage will get closer to £400M if we win PL/UCL or reach SF in UCL, because without winning anything or even progressing in UCL knockout stages we still paid £323m between June 2020 & June 2021.
If Pogba, Mata, Lingard, and Cavani will leave in the summer, include Henderson too, probably Martial as well, and Ronaldo is here until 2023 only, so it will reduce the wage bill, but hopefully we sign players on sensible wages, which I think is just wishful thinking from me.
- City paid £355m as wages.
- Chelsea paid £333m as wages.
- Liverpool paid £325m as wages. (as of May 2020, 2021 report is not available)
- United paid £323m as wages.
These numbers are inclusive of all players and staff, it also includes pension payments and so on.
It is clear we are not the highest paying wages in the PL, but, we are too close to teams that have won trophies, or progressed very far in UCL, probably our wage will get closer to £400M if we win PL/UCL or reach SF in UCL, because without winning anything or even progressing in UCL knockout stages we still paid £323m between June 2020 & June 2021.
If Pogba, Mata, Lingard, and Cavani will leave in the summer, include Henderson too, probably Martial as well, and Ronaldo is here until 2023 only, so it will reduce the wage bill, but hopefully we sign players on sensible wages, which I think is just wishful thinking from me.
Didn't Kane want to leave in summer 2021? did I imagine it? didn't he fail to report to training in early Aug 2021 so he can force the club to sell him?
Then the difference must either come from us:
1. Paying a higher basic salary, whilst those at Chelsea/Liverpool are staggered more through bonuses (or offshore accounts for City) etc. or;
2. We overpay squad players.
Because when it comes to selling players we no longer desire, we struggle a lot because said players appear to be on large salaries (Bailly; Lingard; Henderson etc).
We actually managed to get Bruno on a comparatively low salary than his teammates.
That being said, wouldn't surprise me if he will now demand to treble it to get near to Pogba/DDG/Ronaldo.
That being said, wouldn't surprise me if he will now demand to treble it to get near to Pogba/DDG/Ronaldo.
The Athletic today reporting that's exactly what he's doing.
We need to get these in line. We shouldn't be offering significantly more than he could get elsewhere. Pogba, De Gea and Ronaldo will be gone by next summer.
Because we are a commercial side that says its the "biggest club in the world " when we were never that on a footballing playing way.
We were the biggest only by money and attention- so when we buy players we give them money no one can compete with.
We were the biggest only by money and attention- so when we buy players we give them money no one can compete with.
I have no idea how we structure our current salaries but it needs a radical reset moving forward.It needs to be more performance based rather than just chuck wads of cash at underperformers.
Pay a basic salary to all first team squad then build up from match day squad bonus,actual appearance bonus,win bonus,clean sheet bonus etc.Introduce a debit for losses!
I'm sure that a Club run by merchant bankers know every trick in the 'offshore' accounting book so as not to put too many noses out of joint
Pay a basic salary to all first team squad then build up from match day squad bonus,actual appearance bonus,win bonus,clean sheet bonus etc.Introduce a debit for losses!
I'm sure that a Club run by merchant bankers know every trick in the 'offshore' accounting book so as not to put too many noses out of joint
Whats Haaland won by the way?
Id say you’re also over estimating their combined wage by 100k a week at least by the way.
It’s not their fault the club rewarded them and Ole put so much faith in them.
"It's like Disneyland here. Everybody deserves to be happy at Disneyland and money makes people happy." Ed Woodward
We pay the same as City, Liverpool and Chelsea. It's just negative media spin about us people are buying into. Our only issue is we haven't been as successful with what we've spent in the last 8 years as the other 3 clubs and the others have sold players better than we have.
We pay the same as City, Liverpool and Chelsea. It's just negative media spin about us people are buying into. Our only issue is we haven't been as successful with what we've spent in the last 8 years as the other 3 clubs and the others have sold players better than we have.
The actual accounts are a season or two behind current wages but they show that we are overspending for what we achieve but we are below Liverpool and City for overall wage bill. Don’t believe all the numbers that come out through journalists, they are what someone (club or agent) want you to read and likely stretch the truth.
Maybe it's because we are paying the same yet nowhere near the top trophies the other clubs have won post Fergie. That's why it's mentioned. I can't remember this being said when we were winning regular.
Probably because we’ve been run like total fecking amateurs for nearly a decade. We’ve wasted the inheritance money Daddy Fergie left us which should have kept us competitive - now other teams are catching up revenue wise and the sponsorship deals are drying up. By my count City will have more commercial revenue this year than us - we’ve signed a shirt sponsor 15m less than our previous deal and haven’t replaced the training kit sponsor. So either we get our act together and start making good footballing decisions sharpish or we’ll continue to make awful recruitment and squad building decisions spending bad money after bad but with the ever reducing financial advantage we’ll be fighting for top 8 each year rather than top 4. The PL is getting too rich and powerful for us to be so poorly run yet still finish top 4. Everyone moaning about individual brilliance as we finished 3rd and 2nd are in for a huge wake up call - unless we stop dicking around it’s about to get a whole lot worse.
Where did you get those figures from?
The most interesting part is the below: -
But sometimes, it is reported that Sancho earns 350K, and above it says he earns 200k or more, I mean 350k is closer to DDG than to 200K.
Clubs' published financial reports, the section related to Employees cost.
Sancho is on less than what Salah is on right now according to reliable sources, so not really sure what you are getting at here.
United can be run better, there's no question mistakes have been made, but the wage bill being cut recently has not been one of them,
Again, United are run as a business and can only spend the money they earn, if they can afford to pay the high wages they will.
Because we're fooking schmucks
Winning trophies doesn't mean other clubs are paying less money, as per individual reports, all Liverpool players are paid peanuts when their total wage bill is as big as ours. This isn't discussion about "trophies per million spent".
Why do we pay high wages? Because its our biggest pull atm.