Who replaces Woodward?

Wonder if we can get Gill back temporarily while we sort out the mess.
The idea Gill has a magic bullet is so amateurish I don't know where to begin criticizing it. Gill was successful because of who was in charge on the pitch. Period.
 
I will be very surprised if Arnold isn't announced as CEO in the coming weeks or months and I don't think it will be as bad as people fear. Whilst the restrictions that the Glazers place on the club are limiting and do hurt us a lot of what went wrong over the past eight years was just down to structural (within the club) and character flaws from both the CEO and managers appointed.

Now that we have some semblance of a structure at the club we should start making better decisions the market. Imagine we spent close £70m last summer on players that have had minimal impact on the squad and we are still 2nd, how would it have panned out if we had done differently like buy a RW and CB for example?

It's not like we need a revolution, outside of getting the Glazers out (which is still a long shot irregardless of the past 48hrs), we just need someone to come in and make common sense decisions, give the talented football heads we have within the building the room to do what they do best and make sure that we don't go broke.

Woodward was central to the Glazers financial plans and he had the connections in Wall Street, having worked there, but on the football side, especially early on, he enjoyed the transfer market too much and led us into costly blunders. I think his inner workings with the Glazers is what they will miss but on the football side the issues facing the new guy are simple to navigate.

Yeah but if you read the MEN report where it talks about the three main candidates for this job I don't like how it says that both Arnold & Baty had a good relationship with both Woodward & the Glazers. Think this pretty much confirms that it's going to be one of these two who end up getting appointed
 
The idea Gill has a magic bullet is so amateurish I don't know where to begin criticizing it. Gill was successful because of who was in charge on the pitch. Period.

What have you got against Gill? We need someone with finance expertise to replace Woodward, so accountants, bankers etc. are probably what we'll be getting and not footballers who know a bit of management like VDS or god forbid Neville. Running a global marketing machine is much harder than doing a job as CEO of Ajax.

By all accounts Gill leaving had a pretty huge impact on how things were run at United because we've made a bunch of management mistakes since then. Most of the job as CEO of such a big organization is making sure you have the right people in charge and listening to good advice and I think Gill would be able to figure that out.
 
Cliff Baty getting endorsed by Andy Mitten.

 
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Isn't Richard Arnold already in charge of our commercial department?
 
What have you got against Gill? We need someone with finance expertise to replace Woodward, so accountants, bankers etc. are probably what we'll be getting and not footballers who know a bit of management like VDS or god forbid Neville. Running a global marketing machine is much harder than doing a job as CEO of Ajax.

By all accounts Gill leaving had a pretty huge impact on how things were run at United because we've made a bunch of management mistakes since then. Most of the job as CEO of such a big organization is making sure you have the right people in charge and listening to good advice and I think Gill would be able to figure that out.
Gill had a successful period but by the time he left, our academy and scouting system was in terrible state. Due to Sir Alex genuis, this factor is often overlooked. Pair Woodward with Sir Alex and you have the same on pitch results that Gill had.

Woodward gets a lot of stick but post 2015 we have made a lot of changes at Academy and Scouting system that are showing result right now.
 
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Did anybody really expect any different?

Nothing will change until the head of the snake is cut off
 
Wonder if we can get Gill back temporarily while we sort out the mess.
Gill presided over the “no value in the market” era & oversaw Valencia & Owen replacing Ronaldo and Tevez. Fergie’s genius has conned people a bit when it comes to Gill. We actually spent much more under Woodward than him. He’s the last person I would want.
 
Gill presided over the “no value in the market” era & oversaw Valencia & Owen replacing Ronaldo and Tevez. Fergie’s genius has conned people a bit when it comes to Gill. We actually spent much more under Woodward than him. He’s the last person I would want.
Gi' it Kenyon till end o't season.
 
https://www.skysports.com/football/...s-interested-in-sporting-director-luis-campos

"And so, out of principle, Campos finds himself without a club - but with his eye firmly on the Premier League and a sporting director role at one of its top clubs.

He has told Sky Sports News that he's "ready now" for what he sees as the best league in the world adding: "In modern football the presence of an experienced sporting director is fundamental."

...

"The Premier League is considered one of the most competitive in the world. As a competitor, I would obviously like the challenge."

Sky wrote an article linking us with Luis Campos, former DoF in Monaco and Lille. Would be a good addition, but don't see it happening.
Any thoughts ?
 
Gill presided over the “no value in the market” era & oversaw Valencia & Owen replacing Ronaldo and Tevez. Fergie’s genius has conned people a bit when it comes to Gill. We actually spent much more under Woodward than him. He’s the last person I would want.

It's not that simple though. Feel like a broken clock having the same discussion over and over here but my thesis is:

Fergie and Gill both leaving left a massive void in terms of skills / experience in the club's management.

We've then managed to stumble around quite a bit (one Suarez a year, social media obsession, hire / fire coaches without a coherent strategy etc. etc.), made a bunch of mistakes and finally settled on a management structure that works under Woody.

The sponsorships / marketing were excellent, scouting / first team transfers have been good (for the past 2-3 yrs), youth system has improved significantly (remember: ex Utd pros were sending their kids to the City academy ~2014/15 ish).

We have a settled, functioning system now. If you get a new guy in who insists on doing things his own way, all of this progress might be undone. What we need is someone to continue building on our progress, not some guy who wants to change everything again. We also need someone who can make deals (sponsorships or otherwise) and deal with the finances because that was where Woodward was very good.

I'm pretty sure Gill won't come back but he checks all the boxes for me. Finance expertise, familiar with how the club is run, Knows Woodward (woody was his understudy) and probably picked him out for the CEO post etc.
 
Anyone who can fix the roof and build a descent pisser with showers will be more effective.

Sponsorship deals are irrelevant, if you can't manage the resources for absolutely basic things.
 
An internal appointment that will not only refuse to rock the boat, but also be happy to go along with whatever shit the puppet master decides.

It's not going to be an appointment that changes a course of direction, so nothing to get excited about.
 
Surprise surprise it’s looking like this is going to be another internal promotion - reports that accountant Richard Arnold is being eased into Woody's chair.
 
Surprise surprise it’s looking like this is going to be another internal promotion - reports that accountant Richard Arnold is being eased into Woody's chair.
I mean Arnold has done really well running our commercial arm, he took over from Woodward for that position too. I'd say give him a shot before we judge. Talking about Judge, he's the guy we probably need to replace, his contract negotiations have left us unable to sell most of our deadwood.
 
I mean Arnold has done really well running our commercial arm, he took over from Woodward for that position too. I'd say give him a shot before we judge. Talking about Judge, he's the guy we probably need to replace, his contract negotiations have left us unable to sell most of our deadwood.
As did Woody before him - that seems to be the training ground now
 
I mean Arnold has done really well running our commercial arm, he took over from Woodward for that position too. I'd say give him a shot before we judge. Talking about Judge, he's the guy we probably need to replace, his contract negotiations have left us unable to sell most of our deadwood.

Or he was able to get us pretty good deals on Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo? Selling Dan James for £30m? Would we have paid 30million quid for a Daniel James?

The deadwood problems started earlier -- when the leadership was more clueless and less strategic.
 
It’s genuinely weird how some folk talk so confidently about these people as if they have the slightest clue as to what they do on a day-to-day basis.

I haven’t got a fecking scooby and neither do any of you.
 
It’s genuinely weird how some folk talk so confidently about these people as if they have the slightest clue as to what they do on a day-to-day basis.

I haven’t got a fecking scooby and neither do any of you.
I know that Richard Arnold has the face of a prick

I trust my instincts and I know he’ll be a prick

He’s not been spoken well of on certain podcasts either. He’s apparently not even a football fan
 
Surprise surprise it’s looking like this is going to be another internal promotion - reports that accountant Richard Arnold is being eased into Woody's chair.
Not surprising. I think everyone deep down knew when Woodward's departure was announced that Dick Arnold would be his replacement.
 
As long as the Glazers make money I don’t think the success of the football team actually matters?