This is the biggest myth going the last few years and I'm tired of hearing it. The money has been there it's just been wasted time and time again by successive managers due to no joined up thinking/planning on the part of the club.
Where are the United incomings?
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I've sussed it.
They are going to spend all the savings on a hefty new contract for Pogba.
He will be fit again for the World cup.
They are going to spend all the savings on a hefty new contract for Pogba.
He will be fit again for the World cup.
No incomings expected then. I would say I'm shocked and surprised but I'd be lying. Buckle up for the rest of the season!
We started off desperate for midfielders and now we need forwards too. The media has us linked with half the people playing them positions in the planet, hyping up numerous deadline day deals for us, but we all know no one is coming. I'd be surprised to see a single new face, let alone the 3 or 4 the papers say are coming.
We're trimmimg the fat off the squad, got good youngers to come through and get game time. I for one am happy the club will wait till summer. Rather get it right in the summer than panic buy dross in january (thats newcastle's job in this window).
I looked in my dreams and still could not find an incoming transfer.
We could still get something from this season though with backup in the midfield but looks like they've blown it.
All the players in world football and there wasn't one good deal we could find? Seriously poor ownership and management of the club.
We've decided that since we've done such a poor job spending money over the past 10 years we're just not going to bother
It'd be even better to get it right this window rather than panic buy in the summer.
I totally agree. Plus it’s like we’ve not got anyone to play the way people talk. Rashford, elanga, sancho, lingard, Cavani, ronaldo, Pogba, Bruno. If we can’t make a front line from that then we have worse problems than I thought.
With all the players moving this month, will be interesting to see how they do and just how badly we missed out. Guimaraes, Bentancur and Zakaria from midfield, trippier, this Julian Alvarez kid, Luis Diaz .. obviously we can't sign everyone, but we have obvious gaps and we sign nobody despite some very good deals available, not great. Would be senseless if in the summer we spend 100m on Rice when there are so many players to sign and we ignore cheap deals for Kamara/Kessie or whatever.
Exactly. We have spent a huge amount.
I never expected to sign anyone, we have a interim manager that would be buying players for a manager that we don’t know who it is? We know our Midfield needs improving but the players we are linked with improve our midfield but not necessarily enough. Maybe the targets have already been identified…..
what do our scouts do ? genuine question . We haven't brought in a diamond in the rough in god knows how long that actually has worked . We spend however many million on the likes of Sancho and VDB to name two there have been loads of others and don't play them or cant get them to work in our teams . Our signings in the summer Sancho , Ronaldo , and Varane look great on paper but once again a bit underwhelming . Where are the players that have been scouted in other leagues ? Maybe i'm missing something We just seem to be really bad at it
How poignant is it that Ed Woodward's last day as a United CEO is dealing with what happened yesterday and also a transfer window where we've got weaker not stronger.
I'm glad he's gone. He's been an absolute disaster for us. I just hope Arnold is going to learn from his mistakes but I fear more of the same.
I'm glad he's gone. He's been an absolute disaster for us. I just hope Arnold is going to learn from his mistakes but I fear more of the same.
A couple of weeks ago, I was saying we need to trim the fat, but now I am honestly worried to know if we have enough to make a legit squad...
De Gea
Varane
Mcguire
Shaw
Telles
AWB
Lindelof
Jones
Baily
Dalot
Bruno
Rashford
Sancho
Ronaldo
Cavani
McTominay
Fred
Vidic
Elanga
Who am I missing? Martial, VDB, Lindgard, Henderson and Diallo all out on loan or leaving.. Does the Greenwood incident push us to make a roster buy?
De Gea
Varane
Mcguire
Shaw
Telles
AWB
Lindelof
Jones
Baily
Dalot
Bruno
Rashford
Sancho
Ronaldo
Cavani
McTominay
Fred
Vidic
Elanga
Who am I missing? Martial, VDB, Lindgard, Henderson and Diallo all out on loan or leaving.. Does the Greenwood incident push us to make a roster buy?
It's ridiculous for a club like ours. Leaving us so short in midfield. If we have any injuries we wont get top 4 place or go any further in Champions League.
Is it the work of poor scouts or poor managers. We chased Sancho since he was 16 then we throw him into the starting 11 and hope he does what he did in Dortmund. Same with Pogba the fact he spent his United career with questions of where he would play best says to me we didn't have a plan on how he would fit in. Look at Bruno a player who is about instinct comes in and hits the ground running. It must be hard identifying players when we don't have a system. To me it seems that we throw players in and hope in works.
We need a rw buy Sancho, no plans on how he will fit in.
Need goals get Cr7 we will throw him in as our 9 and he will score.
We need to improve on lindelof buy Varane and we will concede less.
A system makes average players like cleverley, Anderson, Welbeck look better than they are. A system at Liverpool has led players we thought as average win titles.
Yes, the club should expect there is no Top4 this season and the income dropped due to no CL next season then, no way the squad keeping that intensity vs West Ham under the current Midfield in every matches without strengthening.
Also, the identified players will be unknown to sign to the club if we don't join CL next season but big money again..
It is a fecking poor management in a global company!
Not RR fault that previous signings aren't up to it. He needs to be backed.
He should be backed for a couple of players this window.
Out: Martial, VDB, Diallo, Greenwood, Lingard? Henderson? Jones?
In: nil
Well done Man Utd, well done.
In: nil
Well done Man Utd, well done.
Mata and Matic. Mejbri. Iqbal and Savage? Shoretire? Also, Vidic left in 2014.
The General opinion on here is lets not shift the deadwood as we might need them on a hypothetical injury crisis, DVB, Lingard & Martial aren't exactly regulars they have barely played so why hoard them bet they've played lest than 20 games between them.
If Kamara & Zakaria were as good as everyone made out then why are only us and Milan linked with Kamara and only Juventus signed Zakaria?
Is there any point bloating out the squad for another player clearly not good enough on minimum 100K a week just for the sake of another midfielder
Clearly Rangnick is working on potential summer targets but unless he knows who is in the hot seat then how can he start buying players?
As a player suitable for a pressing system more than likely wont be suitable to a Possession based system which is the majority of styles of manager we have been linked with:
i.e. Ten Hag & Poch
If Kamara & Zakaria were as good as everyone made out then why are only us and Milan linked with Kamara and only Juventus signed Zakaria?
Is there any point bloating out the squad for another player clearly not good enough on minimum 100K a week just for the sake of another midfielder
Clearly Rangnick is working on potential summer targets but unless he knows who is in the hot seat then how can he start buying players?
As a player suitable for a pressing system more than likely wont be suitable to a Possession based system which is the majority of styles of manager we have been linked with:
i.e. Ten Hag & Poch
Ed Woodward's last day in a job. You didn't think it was going to go any differently surely?
I dont think this is about spending, its about creating a team of players actually wanting to be here and make the sacrifices needed to be winners. I think Ragnick is watching every player closely and is getting rid of the bad apples.
The squads mentality is in shambles and getting new players into this mix isnt necessary a good thing. We have a lot of players who are just happy to be here and getting a pay-day. We dont need more of those.
The only key thing forward is getting the right characters. Liverpool and City are brilliant at it, we suck at it
The squads mentality is in shambles and getting new players into this mix isnt necessary a good thing. We have a lot of players who are just happy to be here and getting a pay-day. We dont need more of those.
The only key thing forward is getting the right characters. Liverpool and City are brilliant at it, we suck at it
Unless i´m forgetting someone obvious, all the outcomings leave us a bit light in both wingers and CM´s.
LW: Rashford - Pogba
RW: Sancho - Elanga
8: Fred - Bruno - Lingard - Mejbri - Mata
6:McTominay - Matic
Of course some of the backups are multi-position players, like Pogba, who i put as first option on LW, even though that is likely to be Elanga for practical purposes. (Didn´t want to list players in more than one position, to avoid confusion). Imo we can normally take an injury, or at most two, before our starting 11 starts to suffer significantly in quality. This in a period where we are still getting used to a different, supposedly more intense style of play under RR. I smell danger, this is a real risk to take imo.
LW: Rashford - Pogba
RW: Sancho - Elanga
8: Fred - Bruno - Lingard - Mejbri - Mata
6:McTominay - Matic
Of course some of the backups are multi-position players, like Pogba, who i put as first option on LW, even though that is likely to be Elanga for practical purposes. (Didn´t want to list players in more than one position, to avoid confusion). Imo we can normally take an injury, or at most two, before our starting 11 starts to suffer significantly in quality. This in a period where we are still getting used to a different, supposedly more intense style of play under RR. I smell danger, this is a real risk to take imo.
Martial, VDB, Diallo, Lingard, Henderson and Jones weren't playing anyway. Replace their roles with youth players and we'd barely see the difference.
Greenwood is unfortunate, but now it gives Sancho the chance to nail down his place.
The outgoings don't worry me too much, our squad was ridiculously bloated. It's more the fact that we had glaring issues before the window opened and we've done nothing to fix them.
Greenwood is unfortunate, but now it gives Sancho the chance to nail down his place.
The outgoings don't worry me too much, our squad was ridiculously bloated. It's more the fact that we had glaring issues before the window opened and we've done nothing to fix them.
can't argue with that. I think we are just poor everywhere. Scouts & Managers
It is because there is no value in the market.
Any signs of us signing anyone?
Surely there is a midfielder out there who would improve our squad? There are several players whose contract runs out in the summer, so paying a small fee now and taking a punt is worth the risk imo!
We are also light in the wide areas too and I will worry if we start to pick up an injury to the likes or Rashford and/or Sancho! Surely we can bring in a player on loan till the end of the season to provide some additional depth??
Surely there is a midfielder out there who would improve our squad? There are several players whose contract runs out in the summer, so paying a small fee now and taking a punt is worth the risk imo!
We are also light in the wide areas too and I will worry if we start to pick up an injury to the likes or Rashford and/or Sancho! Surely we can bring in a player on loan till the end of the season to provide some additional depth??
Part of me thinks we are looking to reduce the bloat in the squad so the next manager isn't forced to deal with a bunch of players he doesn't want.
That was Gary Neville's solution to the manager situation. Those talks with Richard Arnold must've gone well.
I feel like we're at a point now where we either patch up the holes in our sinking ship as they happen or just build a brand new one. I dont think the club can ever fully commit to writing a season off though to go for a brand new start.
Think that is right, however no saying a new manager would like the ones that are still here either. Most are only on loan, so some will still be coming back.
Pogba should be back and perhaps Shoretire, Mejbri and Fernandez could be added to this group here above. But looking at our group here above one could also speculate that Cavani, Pogba, Jones, Baily,Dalot,AWB either will leave in the summer on free or are not good enough anyway.
We´ve sent out on loan Diallo, Martial already with VDB, Lingard and Henderson possibly going on loan today saving up a lot in wages. Could it be that the current management team is gearing up for signing the right players in the summer. In this clip arond the 17 minute mark you see how many of our signings have been either Bad .. Okay ... Good. I agree with their assement and if you look at the names still needed to be rated in this clip it´s my conclusion that only Bruno can be classed as a top signing. Ronaldo, Varane, Maguire, Sancho can only be decribed as Okay signings. This is the reason for our standings..dreadful recruiting and overpaid players...it´s plain to see that McTominey, Rashford and yes Greenwood until he fecked his career are better than most of the "stars" we have signed.
All of this seems a means to justify new 425k contract to Pogba.
Another window goes by and we don't sign an even semi-decent DM.
Need Gary Neville to jump on Sky and tell the Board we need one - think that's the only logical way to get one in
Need Gary Neville to jump on Sky and tell the Board we need one - think that's the only logical way to get one in
Crazy to think Fred was our last actual central midfielder signing. Some would argue Donny, but he's a rubbish #10.
We're like the opposite of prime Barcelona. They buy prime Fabregas despite already having a midfield of Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Keita, Thiago. We add no one to a dead midfield.
We're like the opposite of prime Barcelona. They buy prime Fabregas despite already having a midfield of Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Keita, Thiago. We add no one to a dead midfield.
Bet the club wish they kept diallo now… I’d of played diallo over greenwood anyway. Diallo is a lot more creative and an actual team player. Very good at dribbling and can use both feet. Don’t get all this nonsense about being to light or small… look at messi ffs