Video games have become shit

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Just look at this piece of garbage produced by some idiot who knows feck all about video games. All these shit details making the game play itself rather than you playing it.



The video says it all, but for those who fall into the graphic trap might learn in time that these games make you fall asleep after 20 minutes of trial and error gaming... :boring:
 
Video games have been shit for some time. I recently started playing old games again using ScummVM
 
kouroux said:
Successful, what you say is garbage is only your personal POV.You can't just consider your opinion as the only truth out there
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You know what. Opinions are based on experiences. I think I have enough video game experience to say this game is absolute wank. Then there will always be 12 year olds who claim it is the best game ever.
 
Successful said:
You know what. Opinions are based on experiences. I think I have enough video game experience to say this game is absolute wank. Then there will always be 12 year olds who claim it is the best game ever.
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I think I have enough experience in video games to say that this game isn't absolute wank (btw I ain't saying it's the best game ever either).
Does that mean I'm wrong or right then ?
 
kouroux said:
I think I have enough experience in video games to say that this game isn't absolute wank (btw I ain't saying it's the best game ever either).
Does that mean I'm wrong or right then ?
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kouroux, you will definitely win some price this year for being the most diplomatic person. There are probably a lot of more wank games out there, I just happened to find this one as I wanted to see how games had developed since I stopped "gaming". They are still at it with these impossible camera angles, animated junk and automatic enemy trackers making it impossible to fight an enemy, just lock and trigger :boring:

So we can agree on this being a pretty pretty pretty medium game then?
 
Most of the games coming out nowadays are first person shooters that all look the same to me. just bought a ps3 and motorstorm, the graphics are great. ill buy pro evo soccer, gran turismo and metal gear solid 4. and not much else.
 
Successful said:
kouroux, you will definitely win some price this year for being the most diplomatic person. There are probably a lot of more wank games out there, I just happened to find this one as I wanted to see how games had developed since I stopped "gaming". They are still at it with these impossible camera angles, animated junk and automatic enemy trackers making it impossible to fight an enemy, just lock and trigger :boring:

So we can agree on this being a pretty pretty pretty medium game then?
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Why bother making yourself angry then and playing games like that? I kow where you're coming from though, like Bioshock has a massive yellow arrow showing you where to go, kinda makes it very linear but its doesn't stop the game looking great, and having a genuinely creepy aptmosphere which made it enjoyable. PLay something like skate then? Its actually one of the few games i've played recently that forces you to get better. At the end of the day bitching aint gonna change anything, the enjoyment you get out of gaming comes from the way you approach the games
 
in fairness using Batman as the benchmark for modern gaming is probably a bit harsh and not too accurate.
 
I think the problem with the video games market nowadays is that you'd never be able to pick out a recent game (except GTA IV perhaps) and in 5-10 years time be able to see it last out the entire period in the same way the likes of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Super Mario Bros. establish themselves as "legendary" games, amongst the best of all time.

It's all about sequels and sequels nowadays, meaning you cannot really get into a game properly without thinking about the sequel.

For me, I don't bother with these games as I get simulation sickness, so I stick with the likes of Football Manager.
 
GTA IV? Have you played it? Poor game and i highly doubt it will be remembered in 5 years time.
 
R.Nilsson7 said:
Gone downhill ever since the SNES/N64 days.
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What absolute rubbish.

Video game software & hardware has come on in leaps and bounds over the years. Check out games such as Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, FIFA 2009, Little Big Planet, Wii Sports, 1v100, GTA IV etc. What about the online & multiplayer facilities we have now? Yes, we had classic gaming moments on the SNES & N64 but let's not let nostalgia cloud our judgement, gaming today is fecking excellent and far better than it was in the 90s!
 
Plan M said:
What absolute rubbish.

Video game software & hardware has come on in leaps and bounds over the years. Check out games such as Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, FIFA 2009, Little Big Planet, Wii Sports, 1v100, GTA IV etc. What about the online & multiplayer facilities we have now? Yes, we had classic gaming moments on the SNES & N64 but let's not let nostalgia cloud our judgement, gaming today is fecking excellent and far better than it was in the 90s!
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Not necessarily that far back, but can you think of a modern game that will definitely be as established as, say Final Fantasy VII except GTA IV?
 
Merman said:
Video games have been shit for some time. I recently started playing old games again using ScummVM
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I've been doing that myself a bit. Great fun. I do have to say there is nothing worse than a visually perfect game that doesn't allow you to get involved enough. I felt some of the Fifa games went down this road. Haven't played many over the past few years however so it may have improved
 
x42bn6 said:
Not necessarily that far back, but can you think of a modern game that will definitely be as established as, say Final Fantasy VII except GTA IV?
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There are tons of titles. Many of us here are in our late twenties and thirties, so we let our childhood memories dictate which is "better".

I'd MUCH rather play today's video games if I was a child again - there is no comparison.

For the record I hate the Final Fantasy series anyway, but that's down to personal taste.
 
Plan M said:
There are tons of titles. Many of us here are in our late twenties and thirties, so we let our childhood memories dictate which is "better".

I'd MUCH rather play today's video games if I was a child again - there is no comparison.

For the record I hate the Final Fantasy series anyway, but that's down to personal taste.
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What games? The likes of Call of Duty 4 will be surpassed by Call of Duty 5392 in the future. We'll forget about Call of Duty 4 in a couple of years as a result of sequels.

An analogy I use is to compare PES 2009 against PES5 and PES6. Yeah PES 2009 is graphically brilliant and it's not a poor game. It's just that it feels oddly dated against the latter two, and the fun value you get from the older games is roughly equal or surpasses the former because they load so quickly and have a comical, fun feel to them.
 
I would disagree. The average quality of games has certainly gone down but that's because there's so many of them out there all trying to do the same thing. The ones that stand out are certainly better than the standout ones of the past. I think nostalgia definitely makes us feel like some of the old games are better than they actually were.

I like x42bn6's point about games defining a certain period or a certain console. I'm interested to see what kind of examples you guys come up with for these. You certainly couldn't do this for modern generation consoles since they haven't been out for that long compared to how long they'll be out for.

My thoughts:

8-bit/NES: Duck Hunt, Super Mario Bros, Mike Tyson Punch Out
16-bit SNES/Genesis: Super Mario World Series, Donkey Kong Series, Mortal Kombat Series, Street Fighter Series, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy ports, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Sonic series
PlayStation/N64/Saturn era: Final Fantasy epics, Gran Turismo series, the rise of the sports genre, Zelda: Ocarina, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Super Smash Bros, Goldeneye, Resident Evil, Tomb Raider
PS2/Gamecube/Xbox/Dreamcast era: Halo, Final Fantasy X, GTA III and spinoffs, DDR, Guitar Hero
Modern Generation: Gears of War, GTA IV, Call of Duty 4, Wii Sports so far but maybe not when things are all done.
Handhelds: Tetris, Pokémon
PC: Doom, StarCraft, Counter-Strike, Sim City, World of Warcraft, Solitaire, Minesweeper
 
x42bn6 said:
What games? The likes of Call of Duty 4 will be surpassed by Call of Duty 5392 in the future. We'll forget about Call of Duty 4 in a couple of years as a result of sequels.

An analogy I use is to compare PES 2009 against PES5 and PES6. Yeah PES 2009 is graphically brilliant and it's not a poor game. It's just that it feels oddly dated against the latter two, and the fun value you get from the older games is roughly equal or surpasses the former because they load so quickly and have a comical, fun feel to them.
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CoD4 will go down as an all time great, youd be a fool to think it will just be forgotten
 
Plan M said:
What absolute rubbish.

Video game software & hardware has come on in leaps and bounds over the years. Check out games such as Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, FIFA 2009, Little Big Planet, Wii Sports, 1v100, GTA IV etc. What about the online & multiplayer facilities we have now? Yes, we had classic gaming moments on the SNES & N64 but let's not let nostalgia cloud our judgement, gaming today is fecking excellent and far better than it was in the 90s!
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The graphics might be better but the quality of games has dropped.

FPS's ruined video gaming imo. Most of the popular games today are FPS and they all look/feel basically the same.
 
The Flying Potato said:
CoD4 will go down as an all time great, youd be a fool to think it will just be forgotten
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I think you're right. Just because there's sequels doesn't mean we won't point to certain versions as groundbreaking or revolutionary. GTA III is definitely an example of that. Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time as well. We haven't forgotten those while we've forgotten some of the sequels. CoD4 is certainly the best of the CoD games and wont' be forgotten for a long time.
 
I still play Medal of Honor on the PC almost everyday since it came out all those years ago. COD 1,2 and 4 aint too bad either. Gran torismo on PS3 is good, everything else is rubbish.
 
Big business killed off the creativity in gaming.
Its now about "moving units" , and many small independent software houses were bought out. Lead developers all went major companies, Sony, Blizzard etc.

After the success of Warcraft, single player games for the Pc dried up.
Now we have a new mmorpg or online fps emerging on a weekly basis, everybody is chasing the "next warcraft". But 90% fail. wasting money and talented a creative designers. Its the Hollywood syndrome.

For Pc gaming it really was better in the "good old days" in terms of creativity and developing new ideas. Piracy didn't help the small independent software companies either.
 
I thought everyone on here was saying how good Batman: Dark Asylum was...

confusing.
 
The Flying Potato said:
CoD4 will go down as an all time great, youd be a fool to think it will just be forgotten
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Indeed. It's a global phenomenon and one of the best games of all time. If you really think it will be surpassed and forgotten about, then you probably haven't played it.
 
HsJ said:
I thought everyone on here was saying how good Batman: Dark Asylum was...

confusing.
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I haven't played it, but I didn't see much wrong with that video. Looked pretty good to me, not really my cup of tea mind so I doubt I will buy it
 
It's not about the story anymore and gameplay is often overlooked for graphics. COD4 has been a great recent game and fair play to it, it would hold it's own in any video game generation. But it still remains that games like Zelda and FF7 won't be seen again. WoW also was awesome but imho like any MMORPG will eventually run it's course. Zelda and co are timeless.
 
AdZzUtd said:
COD4 has been a great recent game and fair play to it, it would hold it's own in any video game generation.
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Multiplayer yes, however the single player campaign was a half-arsed mess. If there has something that has gone wrong with video games it's the over focus on online multiplayer modes at the detriment of the classic single player experience.
 
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