The press already know who the leaker is. He leaked it to them. You seem to be more of Sonny rather than Michael type of Godfather.
"Up to 11 players now want to leave United after becoming disillusioned with life at the club."
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Anyone got the Lou Macari outburst ?
I honestly don't think the players have downed tools. If it was the truth that they're pissed off about how hard life is under Rangnick, why were they also playing like shit under Ole who according to everyone used to treat them all like best mates?
I genuinely think the form of our key players who carried us last season has dropped (Bruno, Shaw, Maguire, Cavani, Pogba etc) and that's led to low morale and discontent because nobody likes to underpeform. I wouldn't be surprised if we once again go on a good run in the second half of the season once those players regain their form and then all of a sudden all the rumblings about rotten squad is forgotten. Football fans are so fickle and reactionary and it's so easy for the media to manipulate the narrative at any point
I genuinely think the form of our key players who carried us last season has dropped (Bruno, Shaw, Maguire, Cavani, Pogba etc) and that's led to low morale and discontent because nobody likes to underpeform. I wouldn't be surprised if we once again go on a good run in the second half of the season once those players regain their form and then all of a sudden all the rumblings about rotten squad is forgotten. Football fans are so fickle and reactionary and it's so easy for the media to manipulate the narrative at any point
"I know it was you, Jesse. You broke my heart."
*Cut to Jesse Lingard on a little boat with Roy Keane*
You know they'll all do a Diego Forlan with Newcastle.
Very good indeed. Well played.
Thank you
That's right!
Shaw said they weren't all there together on the pitch, not that they weren't all together.
He was stating that they weren't all switched on, that they weren't all performing.
He stated that they knew what they wanted to do in the dressing room, suggesting that they ARE all together...
Is it any wonder the coaches jumped ship when they were getting hounded by the so called fans of the club?
You should really stop believing everything you read, it's not healthy and will lead to hysteria and nonsensical posts.
It's complete rubbish,
Why did this come out after our first loss under RR? Rifts like these don't come about after one loss, they take time to build, seems strange that after this loss all of a sudden there's rifts and issues.
The fact that a player came out and called it fake news should be enough in itself.
People have a tendency to read too much into these things, it's ridiculous really. Ragnick didn't hint at any problems in the dressing room in his press conference, not sure where that's come from?!
At the end of the day, I can't bring myself to care about any of them if they do leave. I don't even know who the supposed 11 are, and bar DDG there's not many I'd really care about leaving anyway. Take the money and rebuild, it's not like 80% of the squad is irreplaceable. Far from it in fact.
It's actually quite pathetic to me. They've all been part of the most mediocre squad we've had in decades, serving up complete rubbish while earning a fortune in the process. We've sold much better players than this lot in the past.
Bunch of cry-babies, hope the door doesn't hit them on the way out.
It's actually quite pathetic to me. They've all been part of the most mediocre squad we've had in decades, serving up complete rubbish while earning a fortune in the process. We've sold much better players than this lot in the past.
Bunch of cry-babies, hope the door doesn't hit them on the way out.
It’s been clear for a while to be fair that the squad look disjointed. Neville even pointed it out after the whole Newcastle shambolic performance. It’s not a new thing just because we lost.
Big difference between performing for Man Utd and West Ham. Lingard served up an entire season of terrible performances before he was finally dropped by Ole, so hard to say he didn't get ample chances here. Not to mention some off field antics.
He should have been sold in the summer really.
So bizarre that they would choose to highlight that tweet. Such a strange club these days.
If this story is even true, I imagine the majority are those we'd feel indifferent about leaving anyway or possibly even want to get rid.
Henderson
Bailly
Mata
DVB
Martial
Lingard
Pogba
They all quickly come to mind. Can't say I'd be particularly upset about any leaving.
Henderson
Bailly
Mata
DVB
Martial
Lingard
Pogba
They all quickly come to mind. Can't say I'd be particularly upset about any leaving.
Or no Godfather at all and rather a Fredo.
We need Luca Brasi ASAP.
Like the press would ever snitch.
Dude this is counter"press"ing. We have Ralf at the helm, c'mon keep up!
Its all about engagements. That's what they sell to commercial partners.
Everything they push is designed to maximise the number of interactions. There's no thinking beyond that. Fred's message was out there, getting traction, they wanted to ride that wave. It'd add to the X billion interactions they mention to potential sponsors. That's what we are right now.
I hope the club have not hired idiots for our marketing success, cause this would be it (if true)!
The size of the club is too big to think in terms of guerilla tactics. There's a reason you don't see any big company adress reports coming from a shit source. It
essentially is the same as wasting our time responding to a troll.
And if our sponsor is a big company, there is no way they would want to be associated with negative press.
The whole tweet is bizarre to be honest.
Because we have become joke of a club.
By time it gets to that point its all anonymised. Its just United have had X billion interactions on socials this year, Y more than the next competitor in this market.
Most sponsors are not paying enough attention to the nature of those interactions to know whether they're good or bad. Its only totemic things that stand out e.g., fans storming Old Trafford.
We are a content creation platform with a football team attached. Its all about riding what's trending.
I hate itl when people are pedantic. If you are asking me to pay attention to what you wrote, please apply that to yourself. I said in my original post that “IF” the reports are true. That doesn’t imply or suggest I believe them without any sense of scrutiny.
Im convinced the press is making loads of shit up
Probably. However there's no smoke without fire. There's been too many recent reports of unrest for there not to be any unrest. They're probably exaggerating and the number of people wanting to leave is just guesswork. They've probably heard some stories of unrest and thought oh these guys aren't playing they all want to leave, oh Greenwood and Ronaldo don't seem to get along Greenwood wants to go too etc.
It's been known for a while that Lingard, Bailly, Henderson, DVB, Mata, Dalot, Martial aren't exactly happy about their playing time. Lingard and Pogba's contracts are running out so they've probably just added them to their guesswork.
But there's definitely something going on behind the scenes in terms of unrest, you only have to look at Luke Shaws post match interview last game to see that some of these players don't get along.
You have made my day much brighter, Kind Sir. Thank you!Most of those have been sub appearances at the back of games. He has not had a run in the team in what is the weakest position in our team.
How do you know he can’t prove it in training? Both managers have probably decided he can’t play as part of a two man midfield and yet has not been given a chance to demonstrate he can.
Chances with a few minutes as a sub here and there. He hasn’t had a run in the team to show what he can do. The managers have ruled him out playing as a midfield two and considering how weak we are in that position, he should have been given a chance. This is a player who was excelling in the champions league for Ajax.
If the manager has ruled him out playing in a midfield 2 it's fair enough. What's confusing, however, is he hasn't even been given a chance in one of the 2 10 positions, despite his creativity and being one of the best passers on our team. We are constantly complaining about the level of passing on our team and players that have no ball retention yet our best passer of the ball is constantly benched.
If he can't adjust to PL levels of pace and physicality, there's no way he would play in one of the #10 positions. There is a lot of pressing involved there.If the manager has ruled him out playing in a midfield 2 it's fair enough. What's confusing, however, is he hasn't even been given a chance in one of the 2 10 positions, despite his creativity and being one of the best passers on our team. We are constantly complaining about the level of passing on our team and players that have no ball retention yet our best passer of the ball is constantly benched.
In this case I think it's probably true. Solskjaer was an easy going people pleaser. Probably told them they were all brilliant even when they played shit week in week out. Now he's gone the shit has hit the fan and the easiest thing to do is leave.
What evidence is there he cannot adjust when he has hardly even featured in the PL? It’s not exactly that the players out there are pressing effectively at all. There is plenty of times where he could have been used in different positions.
I don't know why everyone wants to make excuses for this guy. He's obviously not showing anything in training. He's got a few starts and some cameo appearances and showed very little.
Yes he played well for Ajax in a system/environment he grew up in and was very comfortable with. Plenty of players haven't been able to cut it in the PL and maybe he's one of them. He's not the magic bullet.
No one is making excuses for him. Just stating facts. What evidence do you have he is not showing anything in training? He hasn’t been given a proper opportunity such as a run of games. 2 min sub here and there along with an odd appearance here and there is not enough to demonstrate whether he is good enough or not.
So he's ripping it up in training, one of the best we've got and successive managers just don't fancy him enough to give him a run in the team?
What I mean is that, whatever is going on, he's not doing well at United and cannot be impressing the coaching staff. If it was only when Ole was here then fair enough but at this point it has to start pointing to the player.
I don't know how anyone can claim his time at United so far hasn't been a failure. He's failed to even nail down a sub spot.
There isn’t exactly a lot of rotation by RR and there wasn’t by Ole. He was clearly promised first team action by Ole but it never happened. Meanwhile our midfield is our weakest area so it’s bewildering we haven’t tried different option.
I hope he goes somewhere else where he’s appreciated a bit more and excels. He’s wasted here.
I wouldnt be a bit surprised if Pogbas agent was behind it, he'd do anything to rock the boat.
Lots of it is bollocks, Utd lose a game and its always the same. I'm in a place now that if you listen or read everything that's on line on Radio in press, you'd go nuts. Utd are news big news always has always will. And in every TV studio and Radio one there an opinion, on how or what's happening from HP source Hienze source. It leads to threads like this. That's what they want.