Better to be furious than sad in general
Today is the first stage of the recovery of our club
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Better to be furious than sad in general
what's worse than playing without the ball and defending all the time and stil loose. Might as well go down by trying to play.Yes, we absolutely should sack him. Doesn't mean we'll start our recovery. There's a very real option we'll feck up again.
Mourinho should go, but change for the sake of change is a dangerous thing. In my opinion we should swallow the failure of this season and monitor the managerial market. There may be some movement.
It's irrelevant.
It's also true that today is the proper beginning of a long baron spell for the club if he is not sacked within 24 hours.
I dunno, Hodgson like scenario? If the past few years should teach us anything is that it can always get worse
It's not to this thread.
That can be said for any change of manager at any club ever.
The biggest exercise in futility is to see something clearly doesn't work yet continue without change all the same.
He should have been sacked after Sevilla, and there has been plenty of movement since. Fact is he should be sacked, (even if we don't hire anyone until the summer) he is causing more problems than solutions especially with our better players. The results are not actually the worse thing, his managements is a far bigger issue.
I wouldn't even go that far
The empty seats at OT hits them
We don't need big name in my opinion Jardim is available.
Yup, we definitely need change. I just disagree with the notion that it will definitely be a positive one. This may not be our lowest point just yet, is all I'm trying to say.
Nope, it wasnt that.
1000% correct
Yes it was. It was the most common word used in the media about his appointment and on here. He was brought in to steady the ship, which he did, and now he’s outrageously drunk at the helm
Oh I agree it could very easily go either way.
In my opinion we need an interim (probably Butt) until the end of the season while we secure a DoF and negotiate for Poch for the summer.
No we wanted to win.
No he was not the best manager to provide something he never provides anywhere.
I disagree. From a results perspective he was on target domestically at the very least and took us to another cup final at the end of the season.
Sack the real Virus.
Yeah, but I'm not saying what I specifically want. I'm just guestimating what Ed might have in his thought process, bringing LVG in with his CV and then sacking LVG when Mourinho became available, etc.
Jose needs to go but how many more managers come here and fail before we start opening our eyes to the deeper problems at this club.
A few decent games against Cardiff and Huddersfield & Mourinho and some of the players will get a new contract, just in time to lose against Bournemouth. 
Dunno about media but not in here, even in middle of season when people wanted LvG sacked so JM could take over, barely anyone used word stability in the same sentence.
Football isn't just about short term results. The football always dictates the long term results. We have been playing dire football since January and its been obvious to see.
And we all have happy dreams.
I thought the same thing. He seems to accept the realities of the current situation.
Manchester United as a club are not good enough.
That applies to everyone involved. We are regressing with only a small possibly of a top 4 finish.
Big decisions need to be taken in order to lay down the plans for turning this massive supertanker of a problem round.
Simply doing the same thing is not going to work.
I can totally understand what you are trying to say about Ed thought process. It seems as if Ed think the only way to win things is to bring in big names managers with large CV's even if they have outdated methods. When he should try another approach of bringing someone in who will try their best to build a team capable of challenging for honours, hence my #1 choice being Jardim.
Well as long as we’re basing everything on “our online fan base” and “the majority of this board, where could Manchester United possibly go wrong?
I will always think Mourinho was the right man, but just after Fergie.
He'd have picked up a better squad, and would have been a bigger draw to bring in the players that baulked at Moyes.
By the time we'd got him his star was on the wane, same as van Gaal.
the next manager needs to be on the way up, if not top of his game.
He'd have picked up a better squad, and would have been a bigger draw to bring in the players that baulked at Moyes.
By the time we'd got him his star was on the wane, same as van Gaal.
the next manager needs to be on the way up, if not top of his game.
Thought a similar thing myself, think we should have brought in Jose when Sir Alex retired, kept the ship steady for three years then brought in a young hungry manager but sadly this didn't happen.
C'mon, i get we have some dead wood but plenty of our players have higher ceilings and are severely under-performing. Getting out of Champions League groups and constant fight for top 2-3 is our level.
I dont think so,I think there is worse to come in and we will probably lose some of our most valuable players.
As long as Jose goes I think our best players will stay.
No it’s not. Not with the current group of players.
There is no miracle cure, however, I truly do believe it’s as simple as going back to our roots.
Concentrate on our youth system. Play attacking first team football. Blood in the young players. Let’s start creating our own superstars and let others buy them. On the way, we will pick up a potential player who is on the verge of becoming a suoerstar.
I’ve said it before, Red Bull has got the formula. They have been applying it across all their teams and with minimum expensive first team investments, they’ve done really well. Especially the team at RB Salzburg.
Concentrate on our youth system. Play attacking first team football. Blood in the young players. Let’s start creating our own superstars and let others buy them. On the way, we will pick up a potential player who is on the verge of becoming a suoerstar.
I’ve said it before, Red Bull has got the formula. They have been applying it across all their teams and with minimum expensive first team investments, they’ve done really well. Especially the team at RB Salzburg.
Today is start of recovery or just another week ahead of watching the space in the same toxic cycle. Ed's earlier quotes suggest the 2nd option could not be that far away, even with results like these.
It just sadly feels like going through same motions over and over again while the cash cow still gives milk.
It just sadly feels like going through same motions over and over again while the cash cow still gives milk.
What's that quote, the cleverest thing the devil ever did was convince everyone he didn't exist?
Seems like the cleverest thing Jose has done is act like we have some sort of dross squad and he's doing heroically salvaging us so high up the league.
He's had people thinking Sanchez, Lukaku, Pogba and Martial are poor players over this season alone.
Sanchez and Lukaku topped the scoring charts a couple of years ago. Pogba we know had a great world cup. Martial was a one man attack for Van Gaal at times.
These 4 are top Premier league players. But you wouldn't think it.
I'd expect a big improvement once a new guy comes in.
Seems like the cleverest thing Jose has done is act like we have some sort of dross squad and he's doing heroically salvaging us so high up the league.
He's had people thinking Sanchez, Lukaku, Pogba and Martial are poor players over this season alone.
Sanchez and Lukaku topped the scoring charts a couple of years ago. Pogba we know had a great world cup. Martial was a one man attack for Van Gaal at times.
These 4 are top Premier league players. But you wouldn't think it.
I'd expect a big improvement once a new guy comes in.
If only the people running the club had the same mindset as you and we would be in a better position. Good post and good strategy mate.
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