You misunderstood my point.
As a self-styled tragic figure in his last years he did much to ruin the body of excellent work he AND The Doors created. Had he died a little earlier this would perhaps not have been the case.
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As a self-styled tragic figure in his last years he did much to ruin the body of excellent work he AND The Doors created. Had he died a little earlier this would perhaps not have been the case.
LK is not a happy chappy
Morrison Hotel was my fav. The start of Peace Frog is one of the best beginnings to any song.
Poetry has no pretention get out clause. Why would it?
Pretentiousness, it's poetry you fecking useless twat.
How's the Nietzsche comprehension coming along?
I remember it at the time and immediately after. Every public appearance or interview was just louche and self absorbed and the gigs got more chaotic. There's no point discussing it since you're such a teenage fanboy keyboard hard man.
most overrated group of the 60s.
Im bored of Jim Morrison.
Teenage fanboy? Please. I actually bother to read the books, the credible books.
If you're saying the gigs were more chaotic towards the end, I'd disagree. Sure Miami was chaotic, as was his last performance in Dallas but other than that the gigs became more about the music than the theatrics as Jim was tired of all the sex appeal bullshit and the fact that people only came to watch him to do something crazy and neglected the music. He'd also stopped dropping acid before concerts. Earlier performances were more chaotic when he tried to incite riots, see New Haven.
You may have a point about the interviews, I'd say that's because he was drinking a lot more. I've got a book of almost every interview he gave and I'd say his interviews were intelligent and funny. He was also worrying constantly about the Miami trial as he knew prison would kill him. Like his friend Tom Baker said "You could take anything from Jim but you couldnt' take his freedom". And that Miami trial played on his mind constantly, which is why he eventually went to Paris. In fact he'd cleaned up a lot in Paris, he'd lost some weight and was drinking less. He was also looking forward to coming back and doing a tour for L.A. Woman.
Sounds like he led a most interesting life, I may read up on him.
Right, I've just listened to Strange Days and Waiting for the Sun and both are fantastic albums in my opinion, I really enjoyed the latter one. I thought Strange Days got better as it went on, I know Lizard said it was probably their weakest effort but if that's their weakest then I can't wait to listen to The Soft Parade, Morrison Hotel and LA Women
Also I've been watching a bit of their live stuff on YouTube and Jim Morrison is a fantastic entertainer, it's a real shame he died so young (I've just started to read up a bit on his life and the history of The Doors). I would have loved to have gone and seen these live, unfortunately that will never happen
So far I'd probably go for;
The Doors > Waiting for the Sun > Strange Days.
I'm disappointed it has taken me 17 years to discover these.
Also I've been watching a bit of their live stuff on YouTube and Jim Morrison is a fantastic entertainer, it's a real shame he died so young (I've just started to read up a bit on his life and the history of The Doors). I would have loved to have gone and seen these live, unfortunately that will never happen
So far I'd probably go for;
The Doors > Waiting for the Sun > Strange Days.
I'm disappointed it has taken me 17 years to discover these.
Right, I've just listened to Strange Doors and Waiting for the Sun and both are fantastic albums in my opinion, I really enjoyed the latter one. I thought Strange Days got better as it went on, I know Lizard said it was probably their weakest effort but if that's their weakest then I can't wait to listen to The Soft Parade, Morrison Hotel and LA Women
Also I've been watching a bit of their live stuff on YouTube and Jim Morrison is a fantastic entertainer, it's a real shame he died so young (I've just started to read up a bit on his life and the history of The Doors). I would have loved to have gone and seen these live, unfortunately that will never happen
So far I'd probably go for;
The Doors > Waiting for the Sun > Strange Days.
I'm disappointed it has taken me 17 years to discover these.
You shouldn't be disappointed, you should be ashamed.
Don't make it harder than it already is!
Just finished listening to their other 3 albums. They really are a great band, if you haven't listened to them before I suggest you do.
Out of the 3 I probably enjoyed Morrison Hotel the most, with LA Women and Soft Parade closely behind. Lyrics are great too (And I finally get LK's old location of "no eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn" - great line!)
All in all they are 6 superb albums, and should be in anyone's music collection.
Out of the 3 I probably enjoyed Morrison Hotel the most, with LA Women and Soft Parade closely behind. Lyrics are great too (And I finally get LK's old location of "no eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn" - great line!)
All in all they are 6 superb albums, and should be in anyone's music collection.
LA Woman
Esmufc07, I made a cock up there. Strange Days isn't their weakest, it's great.
The Soft Parade is their weakest by a mile.
The Soft Parade is their weakest by a mile.
A true Doors fan wouldn't make that mistake
Can you play any Doors tunes on your guitar? I'd love to learn to play LA Woman
Can you play any Doors tunes on your guitar? I'd love to learn to play LA Woman
You realise of course that An American Prayer was released in 1978 by the remaining doors hungry to earn a few more quid but realising that without Jim Morrison they were nothing...
I love the Doors, I've read 8 or 9 books about their beginnings and career.
One of the things about them is the difference between each album, I can think of any other band that had such distinct differences on each album.. Each stands up in its right... They were an awesome and highly original band and Jim Morrison was a lyrical genius...
ps... The Doors Live is a great album too... the version of Roadhouse Blues on it is better than the album version!
The fact they created all those great albums in such a short amount of time aswell makes them all the more phenomenal.
A true Doors fan wouldn't make that mistake
Can you play any Doors tunes on your guitar? I'd love to learn to play LA Woman
Yeah I can play quite a few, including LA woman.
Has your copy of Light My Fire arrived yet?
Morrison sounds like he was an amazing person, I would've loved to have met him...
You should post it on here
I expected it here today, usually Amazon get my stuff to me quite quickly. Should definitely be here tomorrow though.
Me too. Would have loved to have seen them live aswell
You should read "No one here gets out alive'... great read...
John Demsmores bio is a good read too, gives a great insight to the bands frustrations with Jim...
John Demsmores bio is a good read too, gives a great insight to the bands frustrations with Jim...
What utter utter bollocks.... you havent a clue what you're talking about..
Jim Morrison recorded the vocals that appear on that album in 1969... you think he should have died before he wrote and recorded that
Then we'd have never had The Soft Parade, Morrison Hotel or LA Woman.. half their catalog...Can you play any Doors tunes MW?
John's book sounds a little bitter to me, him and Jim never got on. In fact Jim wanted to sack him before the first album.
Ray's book is the best in my opinion as it gives you a more accurate picture of Jim, I'd also recommend Frank Lisciandro's Feast Of Friends
The version of Roadhouse Blues I was on about.....
and yeah, I can play a few of theirs... havent actually listened to them in a while... this thread has put the want back on me...
I liked Demsmores book LK, I actually liked the bitterness... in the end I think Demsmore realised what Morrison was (how special) but too late..
That version is brilliant!
Where does this quote come from mate?
The book arrived today, unfortunately I wasn't in to sign for it Going to ring them up and ask them to deliver it Saturday, so should have it then.
Oh and Lizard I found a great version of Crystal Ship, you've probably seen it but for those who haven't I would check it out:
Going to ring them up and ask them to deliver it Saturday, so should have it then.Oh and Lizard I found a great version of Crystal Ship, you've probably seen it but for those who haven't I would check it out:
I found The Doors very dissapointing as a teenager. They have some memorable songs that have become iconic but they just aren't that great. Their album tracks are generally awful and their musicianship isn't anything above average. They just sound really dated to me, half way between early sixties psychedellia and late sixties progressive without being as good as either. Strange Days sounds about 10 years behind Piper at The Gates of Dawn or Court of the Crimson King especially in the way the album flows when they were released around at the same time.
Finally recieved Light My Fire today, though am in no mood to read it now for obvious reasons. Will give it a read tomorrow after work
"The blue bus is calling us"
Not Jim Morrison's finest hour, cracking openning three verses and then it decends into bollocks. shame.
Not Jim Morrison's finest hour, cracking openning three verses and then it decends into bollocks. shame.
These really are a superb band.
Love them.
Love them.
Love Her Madly is one of my favs
Jim was said to have had an incredibly high IQ, some say he was borderline genius.
I've read that no matter what the conversation he was the kind of guy that showed an unbelievable level of knowledge regardless of the subject. The kind of guy that seemed to know and understand everything.
He also had an incredible appreciation of music and the way that it would eventually evolve.
I remember reading an interview with him back in the late 60's i think (Correct me if i'm wrong LK!), where when asked about the future of music he basically went on to describe techno and mixing DJ's as the future musical curve a good 20-30 years before they arrived.
I remember reading the first biography written about Jim Morrisson called "No One Here Gets Out Alive" by Danny Sugarman and listened to each studio albums in the background as they came up in the book. Made the book a better read.
The Doors
Strange Days
Waiting For The Sun
The Soft Parade
Morrison Hotel
L.A Woman
The Doors
Strange Days
Waiting For The Sun
The Soft Parade
Morrison Hotel
L.A Woman
I have there Live at Pittsburg album.
Pretty good stuff.
Pretty good stuff.