Masterstroke from Ole putting him at left back, free from the shackles of Mctominay
That crossball from Fred
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I mentioned this in my second post. But he absolutely did not pick Ronaldo out, he’s pinged it over and hoped for the best. It’s whatever really. Good job we scored from it, never worth a thread.
Because he intercepts the ball in the left midfield area, plays it forward with a searching ball and gets into a decent position to receive it again and then uses the ball really well. Something Pogba and McT managed to avoid doing for 80 plus minutes.
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He meant that pass. You’re supposed to aim for Ronaldo in the box. It’s a side foot ball across the box, he didn’t slap it and hope
That’s actually nonsense. He has his head up before he makes the cross and he plays it right on to Ronaldo’s head when Ronaldo is not in a typical spot to target the ball when you make a cross into a crowded box. What’s the problem with giving some credit where it’s due? I’m sure you‘re quick enough to comment when he misplaces a pass so why not be objective and give credit when he does something right?
What you write about Fred doesn’t have any bearing on how good he is as a player, but absolutely has a bearing on how good you are as a poster.
BREAKING NEWS: Manchester United midfielder kicked the ball properly, for once.
He was coming forward from the LB position and was slightly in from the left when he made the interception. He then ran forward down the wing and put in the cross. He's unlikely to have been in place to do either if he had played in the middle so it's a bit of an odd interpretation of events.
I agreed that under normal circumstances he might not have ran down the left wing for the cross (but he does get forward on the left side from central midfield for Brazil quite a lot) but his interception in the midfield is where he absolutely would have been if he was playing central midfield and that was as much a part of the winning play as the cross. It’s splitting hairs to suggest otherwise. I don’t remember Pogba and McT intercepting and setting us up on the counter at all? They were just played straight through over and over.
Hell of a shank straight on Ronaldos bonce
Yawn
Top top fishing. You've got quite a catch here.
I’m joking
so true!I don’t think that Fred’s cross was all that, I agree with you on that. But I am happy he didn’t just lump it close to the keeper and hope for the best.
Hell of a shank straight on Ronaldos bonce
To be honest I just watched it back its an okay cross but almost overhit. Almost misses the danger area. Luckily ronaldo adjusts (watch his movement while the ball is in the air) to get it back in the centre and lays it off rather than head it at goal for an easy catch for the keeper. If hed gambled on someone coming in behind him then its out for a throw in, pretty much the definition lf an overhit cross.
Not worth a thread. And he definitely humped it into the danger area rather than aim for Ronaldo with some master pinpoint cross
As far as I'm concerned, it's exactly the type of interception and run that Shaw regularly makes so we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
On the wider point, I agree McT and Pogba didn't do much to laud at all.
Nothing against Fred, he has his role. We missed him for most of the game last night. I just don’t think it was a particularly good or noteworthy cross, he hit it towards where Ronaldo was standing, not where he would have wanted it but at least it kept the play alive. He probably couldn’t have hit it any further forward without it being blocked, so it is what it is. It’s a cross barely worthy of a mention.
Poor Fred. Picks out our key man with the final move of a must win, high pressure game…no credit.
Apparently he shanked it onto the head of our biggest aerial threat.
It was a great pass, Jessie had a great touch to play it away from defenders and Ronaldo finished it with authority.
All three played their roles beautifully and Ole deserves credit for his changes coming off at the right time.
Anything else is just bias and trying to fit your own narrative:
It’s ok to not think Ole/Fred/Lingard are up for it and still give them credit where it’s due. Everything doesn’t have to align with your own argument!
Apparently he shanked it onto the head of our biggest aerial threat.
It was a great pass, Jessie had a great touch to play it away from defenders and Ronaldo finished it with authority.
All three played their roles beautifully and Ole deserves credit for his changes coming off at the right time.
Anything else is just bias and trying to fit your own narrative:
It’s ok to not think Ole/Fred/Lingard are up for it and still give them credit where it’s due. Everything doesn’t have to align with your own argument!
I hope these are troll posts because otherwise it's really sad too see people unable to give any appreciation to a player for a good move just because he was poor in some other games.
Fred’s cross was worldclass???
What's to appreciate? It was a cross, we had a break. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just...normal.
That it was a decent first time cross that lead to our win; not the "mishit it" as you put it.
Absolutely true. Feck me to start a thread with Fred's cross is red rage to a bull. Its just getting really boring now....
Getting to the left-channel top of the field is what Fred does quite often in many, many games, either pressing, counter-pressing, or supporting attack. Starting from the interception in our half all the way to his early cross almost side footed, it is what fast transition we are used to play. It produced the chaos situation for us to score. well, many just want to criticize him no matter what.
This. A entire thread was unnecessary but the wind-up replies are much worse. He won the ball , passed it and didn't stand still (I'm looking at you Diogo), moved immediately to receive it in an advanced position and cross it in to the correct area balls should go (ie not the defenders head). He does none of that we draw.
To be honest, the best thing you can say about Fred’s cross is that he played it early rather than dilly dallying, which is what our midfielders tend to do in promising situations. But seeing as there were just seconds left to play at that point, not sure he had much choice.
I thought he didn't know what to do at that moments and just decided to put it in the box the best he could with the angle. It worked out.
It just wasn’t that great of a cross, barely worth a mention let alone a thread. It found one of our players, so that’s something at least. People don’t have a problem giving him credit if he does something really good, this cross wasn’t anything worth talking about though. Don’t really know why so many people are struggling with it.
Fred gets a lot of unnecessary stick on here and his attributes are downplayed massively - it was a perfectly good cross and a crucial part of the buildup to the eventual goal.
Naw he knew what to do it’s quite a routine thing to do in football if you’re chasing a game late on, stand it to the back post, hope your centre forward gets a knock down and someone finishes it off.
He gets the stick he earns by not always doing what’s best. He gets praise or at least should do for doing the simple positive things right like passing it accurately to someone in a red shirt… that’s if we’re playing in red that is!
I don’t think he’s completely useless, just not the type of player that’s ever going to lift us to where we should be
Agree. I don't understand why people are mentioning a cross that basically keeps us in the CL. I agree, lets ignore that the cross happened and talk about the loss instead.
ffs a dedicated thread for that cross. In fact, Lingard's role in goal was the important bit. First the touch to give it back to Ronaldo and then lying as low as possible after quickly anticipating what is going to happen next.
It was still better than almost all of our attempts to cross in that game.
Greenwood to Cavani was masterpiece, other than that Fred made the right decision not to hold ball in last minute and just send it where goalscorers are. Sometimes simplicity and not overcomplicating things up is the best thing to do.
Greenwood to Cavani was masterpiece, other than that Fred made the right decision not to hold ball in last minute and just send it where goalscorers are. Sometimes simplicity and not overcomplicating things up is the best thing to do.
As suspected, the thread just turned into let's slag of Fred. Feck me, he can't even cross a ball and people want to talk about how shite he is but there is no agenda. Same with Lingard. Let's feck them both off, and use that negative energy to talk about being bottom of the CL table instead. Some people are never happy.....
Let’s start a ‘How Good Was Lingard’s Touch And Lying Down?’ Thread
That last sentence sums up why we screw up
So much good build up.
How can it be the important bit if it wouldn't have happened without the cross? I'm off, I'm being drawn into the most stupid of conversations....
One decent cross and a thread is made. If you watch city/Liverpool a new forum might need to be created if we crossed like them
Possible the least thread-worthy in-game action to ever get a thread. It was ... fine.