Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

No he wasn't. A quick glance at the match day thread confirms that most people had Mainoo as MOTM as did I and the official MOTM award went to Mainoo as well.
Is this the same midfielder that won 1 duel and played 21 passes the entire game? Great game that. Must have done some wild runs to open up space for the rest.
 
Apparently the Villa press officer jumped in and said no Rashford questions during a Tieleman interview...how it should be done!

It's open season with the United press officer where everything is allowed and for as long as you wish.

Amorim should be facing No more questions about INEOS or staff redundancies fir the rest of the season.
 
Apparently the Villa press officer jumped in and said no Rashford questions during a Tieleman interview...how it should be done!

It's open season with the United press officer where everything is allowed and for as long as you wish.

Amorim should be facing No more questions about INEOS or staff redundancies fir the rest of the season.
Problem is the press officer was part of the staff redundancies
 
That’s a wild exaggeration:

The following clubs do not press high or play on the front foot and the majority are all give up possession, counter, low blocking sides.

Forest
Brentford(less so at home)
Palace
Everton
West ham
Wolves
Ipswich
Leicester (until Ruud came in at least)
Southampton
United

A bit more than 30%.

Even the likes of Fulham Bournemouth and Newcastle. I’d argue they’re a lot more counter press.

Thats quite funny because if you go watch all of our games.

Forrest - scored goals by pressing us... Morgan Gibbs white
Everton pressed us quite high
West Ham under Potter are more a pressing team
Ipswhich both games were pressing us

So go have a look at that again.
 
They all had around £300m to build whatever team they wanted.

The football is only a problem when we give you the resources and you still fail to adopt the United philosophy which is fast attacking football.

There’s no mental gymnastics at all. Amorim has time to build a team but if he thinks results aren’t important then I’m sure he will find out.
Many years of bad transfer dealings coupled with bad luck. It has caught up with us and will take many more years to recover from.
 
Nothing before this has ever really been a proper rebuild. To rebuild something you have to break it down. Most of what we've done is paper over the cracks.
There is also little evidence that completely rebuilding the squad to suit amorim will be worth the effort
 
I really hope you're correct but I just don't have this optimism at the moment. The only times I've had genuine faith that we were on the right track was first under Mourinho when we seemed to have a run of beating everyone 4-0 then the period under Ten Hag when we beat City, Barca and won the League Cup.

With Amorim, I'd like to see where we're at come October. A lot of these wider issues aren't his fault but he'll ultimately lose his job if he can't imorove performances consistently.

My main concern after that is if he is sacked, will Ratcliffe go for a similar manager or are we gonna someone completely different and have another 12-18 months of everyone blaming the last guy for poor performances.
Mourinho start of that 2nd season was the best run of result we have had since SAF left.

That ETH period made me thought a couple of upgrades we would be competing at the top, but with hindsight that Rashford season papered over all of the teams frailties and tactical failings.

I believe the football structure, will go for someone with a similar football philosophy 4 ATB or 3 ATB, shouldn't be a caveat as players should be able to adapt.

No one truly knows what we are planning, I am hoping once we know what is happening in both cups whether we go all the way or knocked out, I expect some transfers to move pretty quickly as we will know our budget for the season, hopefully we are moving quickly to rectify some of the teams issues.
 
There is also little evidence that completely rebuilding the squad to suit amorim will be worth the effort
That's why you buy players with a profile that any new manager would be happy to have. young, physical, skilled and with the right mentality.
 
He's being slick whether people recognize it or not. Sure most of it is regular sports mumbo jumbo but the two key phrases are

You could feel in moments that it's not working but for some reason the manager wants us to do that

we have a big staff and they watch so many games and prepare themselves and if they do that in the right way


Now after both those parts he says we have to listen and follow instructions etc. but you can feel the doubt coming from the captain. Doesn't sound like a guy who is fully bought in to the new system and I wouldn't be if I was him either because there is no natural role for him in the team. He's too sloppy and weak as a CM and his physical limitations and inability to beat a man make him unsuitable as the 10.

Best player in a team that is currently 14th in the league. What an achievement. And try to respond to the post not the poster, I put the Bruno thread on ignore so I wouldn't have to listen to the morons in that thread. So keep your circlejerk about this average player in there if you don't mind.

Without him we'd be in the relegation zone he's played a role in 40% of the few goals we actually do score
 
There is also little evidence that completely rebuilding the squad to suit amorim will be worth the effort
There's as much evidence as there was when we appointed him.

Whoever had taken over and whatever formation they had played, there would still not be enough athleticism and physicality in the squad to succeed in the Prem as it currently is. City have invested because Pep has said that his previous style of possession football doesn't work anymore.

Ineos decided not to react (apart from Dorgu) to address this in January, favouring making the right transfers in the Summer. We have also cut ties with Rashford and Antony without replacing them. We have no goalscoring threat from the attacking players left with Amad injured.

Amorim should get a clean slate for the next season.
 
Thats quite funny because if you go watch all of our games.

Forrest - scored goals by pressing us... Morgan Gibbs white
Everton pressed us quite high
West Ham under Potter are more a pressing team
Ipswhich both games were pressing us

So go have a look at that again.
They press us because they know a mistake is very likely. You don't see the small teams pressing the top teams.
Just quoting the above because I see it was kinda pointed out already...

The reason we get pressed is because we're absolutely shite at progressing the ball through our defence and midfield.

We have players in defence and in goal who lack composure/guile/decision making and athleticism and are ponderous, hence why teams alter things when up against us and press high. It's called 'flexible game management'. Not something Amorim has shown enough so far might I add.

Maybe go have a look at games not involving United to get a better view of how most teams set up most weeks.

Describing Forest as a high press/front footed team is kinda laughable. They have the lowest possession stats in the league this season. And guess which teams are 2nd and 3rd? Yeah Everton and Ipswich. These teams in generally do absolutely not high press or play on the front foot. They sit deep, concede possession and seek to win the ball back in their half before countering. That doesnt happen versus us because were fecking shit.
 
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He’s forced to pick a team from players who should be dropped but can’t because there’s no alternative at GK, RWB, CF, CM + many of them know they’re not in his plans long term. Can’t be easy to get a tune out of them in this situation.
 
Apparently the Villa press officer jumped in and said no Rashford questions during a Tieleman interview...how it should be done!

It's open season with the United press officer where everything is allowed and for as long as you wish.

Amorim should be facing No more questions about INEOS or staff redundancies fir the rest of the season.

Indeed.
 
Just quoting the above because I see it was kinda pointed out already...

The reason we get pressed is because we're absolutely shite at progressing the ball through our defence and midfield.

We have players in defence and in goal who lack composure/guile/decision making and athleticism and are ponderous, hence why teams alter things when up against us and press high. It's called 'flexible game management'. Not something Amorim has shown enough so far might I add.

Maybe go have a look at games not involving United to get a better view of how most teams set up most weeks.

Describing Forest as a high press/front footed team is kinda laughable. They have the lowest possession stats in the league this season. And guess which teams are 2nd and 3rd? Yeah Everton and Ipswich. These teams in generally do absolutely not high press or play on the front foot. They sit deep, concede possession and seek to win the ball back in their half before countering.
All the managers who tried slow build up from the back failed at Utd, Ole whenever he tried, ETH to some extent and now Amorim. LVG had some success on keeping possession but that was it, we had 70% of the ball but no threat in attack. About the reasons, we can only speculate, but no1 cause was the quality of the players who were mostly unsuited for this style.
Just recently we were pressed hard and had big problems against Ipswich and Soton, AT HOME, 2 of the worst team in the league.
Imagine how ineffective and risky this approach is for us, we have Onana, Maguire, De Ligt, Ugarte, Dalot, Casemiro all slow players on the ball who lack the technical ability and the movement for this type of football, it is simply not for us.