We can blame him for subbing off Garnacho and leaving it be until half time
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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I'm surprised he opted to take of Garnacho, as he at least offers something in the build-up. Would much rather he'd have taken off Hojlund.
And some fans have a hard on for blindly supporting managers even when they do absolutely nothing to deserve it. What progress? Does any of this look like progress with you?
11th, no expectations from anyone whatsoever of anything meaningful for the rest of the season. He could not have been under any less pressure than when he joined and he's managed to totally screw that up.
Get someone in goal and go for it. This team is beyond ridiculous.
Not really his fault Dorgu has two brain farts.
Negative sub was odd considering Hojlund has been invisible, I suspect it till be a long second half.
I was never sure about the whole wing back thing when we signed him.
Negative sub was odd considering Hojlund has been invisible, I suspect it till be a long second half.
I was never sure about the whole wing back thing when we signed him.
It's impressive to be this bad defensively with a back 5.
He learned 1 lesson and that's everything he thinks he can teach.
My feeling is that we setup way too negative against Ipswich at home. Looking at the XI for second half we have only 3 offensive mindes players on the pitch in Bruno, Hojlund and Zirkzee. Even with 11 players its far too negative. Especially when our fullbacks arent even offensive minded!
This is not good at all..
This is not good at all..
Apparently, I think getting a new manager will mean Onana turns world class, because of systems innit
A year in the championship could be good for us honestly. Just get rid of the drama and the expectations.
Yeah pretty weird and also not something I’ve seen from any other top manager.
Like I understand having a preferred system, but being completely unyielding with it is pretty stupid
This game is hardly his fault. Two awful errors and a terrible keeper.
It’s isn’t debatable. It’s a tangible shambles. It’s not reason for those things but maybe having a better shape wouldn’t have led us to a position where we’re under pressure. Maybe not having Yoro on the left wing and instead, had a winger there and Bruno not at centre could’ve led to another goal.
No one expects miracles of him but maybe not THIS bad. We’re bad but we’re better than 15th. We still have good players in this squad, players that would get into plenty of other teams and thrive.
Yeah. Better chances, more goals, dominant in possession etc. Would be 3-0 up if not for Onana.
No way this is on Amorim.
He isn't very good at that though, that's the issue, he can only run with his head down, and he's incredibly wasteful.
Zirkzee is much better at holding on to the ball, Hojlund in fairness is equally as ineffective as Garnacho, so he could have gone off, but he can operate centrally so it's a coin toss really.
I feel like I’m in an episode of black mirror. I came in here and saw people blaming the formation and thought it must have been from last week.
With great teams like Peps Barcelona, you usually knew exactly how they were going to line up and play. Yet there's usually very little you could do about it.
With this Manchester United team, you know exactly which formation they will use, who is likely to play in each position and how they will play throughout the game. Yet there's very little they seem to want to do about it.
With this Manchester United team, you know exactly which formation they will use, who is likely to play in each position and how they will play throughout the game. Yet there's very little they seem to want to do about it.
Basically everything that has been said about ten Hag also applies to him.
And after all we have seen in the past years there are still people holding up to that "he needs time, he needs his players" narrative.
He's the next huge failure of this club and I doubt we have many failures left before going to the Championship.
And after all we have seen in the past years there are still people holding up to that "he needs time, he needs his players" narrative.
He's the next huge failure of this club and I doubt we have many failures left before going to the Championship.
Amorim may have shite the bed with the sub, but instead of questioning why he had to make the sub in the first place, you would naturally think to question the players making stupid individual mistakes
no... let's go for a sacking
no... let's go for a sacking
How on Earth is this his fault? We actually played well in between two Onanas (it clearly should just be a synonym for inexplicably idiotic goaltending) and a questionable red.
Maybe he should just start playing a few of the CB's in attack instead? Martinez has a couple of goals too. They're much better than Hojilund and Zirkzee.
Surely the manager has to have some responsibility for the errors. He picked the team, he trains the team. Is he entirely to blame? No. Does he bear some of the responsibility? Of course.
With a professional keeper in net, instead of the troll, we'd be 3-0 up.
He bears some of the responsibility for sure. The communication error on the first goal, somewhat. He picks the team.
Could have told you that months ago but hey the boss sees something in him.
Yoro is not playing left wing, idk what you're watching but if that's your understanding of the formation I can see why you think it's a mess.
Well we can agree on that at least.God!
I have been saying that we shouldn't have bought Onana from way before it became cool to say so. The argument was that the manager won't put a 18-19 year old ahead of him.
I am sure you'll get it this time because I am tired.
And to end...
You didn’t see the first half then.
He wasn't playing left wing in the first half either.
Nuance is lost on you isn’t it?
He’s been manager for 23 matches… seems enough to at least start evaluating him.
If you meant he was going into advanced positions sometimes then just say that. You'd probably complain if pep was our manager that the formation is a mess.
And Antony, Rashford, Casemiro, Eriksen, that fecking list goes on and on.
Top reds just see what they want to see. No rational human being can look at our performances since he joined and tell me meaningful progress has been made. That's Communist Russia levels of willful obtuseness. I just don't understand why people get so attached to managers. We don't owe these guys anything. They have to earn time and trust. It can't just be handed to them on a platter.
I thought was blindingly obvious. I’ll post in neon letters next time.
I’d probably have less reason to complain if we won football matches. Pretty sure Guardiola has never refused to play a single second without 5 defenders on the pitch. If we had a defender have to go off the pitch for treatment for thirty seconds Amorim would break into a cold sweat. I remember Mourinho getting maligned for doing it to see out games or away to Liverpool. Now we’re supposed to be happy we do it every week and lose.
I think there is a middle ground. He has unquestionably been handed an absolute shit sandwich. But, we’ve been really poor. I think if we hit 40+ points, he should be safe and we should continue the experiment next season.