Greck
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Mourinho said it after spending 500m. Can you imagine how tone deaf this would be after all that?When Mourinho said things like this he was toxic. When Rangnick says it he’s loved for it.
Mourinho said it after spending 500m. Can you imagine how tone deaf this would be after all that?When Mourinho said things like this he was toxic. When Rangnick says it he’s loved for it.
Yes, there is. I’m not complaining about him trying to address problems. What I’m complaining about is him throwing the players to the wolves to protect himself from the shit job he’s done. He doesn’t have to name individuals when he says the whole team needs replacing apart from the goalkeeper. fecking hell.You don’t think there is a serious problem with the structure of this club and team?
We have been calling for things to change for years and we still have people moaning when somebody is trying to address it.
These are incredibly positive and far more diplomatic than dragging individuals through the mud in public.
He's gone all in- two footed- to the board
Name one keeper that you can sign, that you will replace DDG with?
He’s not going to be our long term manager because he’s nowhere near good enough to be. The squad is far from great. It’s also far from as bad as it’s looked since he took over.Rangnick was never going to be our long term manager, that was established from the very beginning and he's not been able to make any signings of his own. To add to it he's taken over a complete mismatch of a squad with horrendous attitudes for the most part from being treated like royalty by the previous guy.
It doesn’t bode well for a big game against Liverpool and potential 4th place push.A manager criticising the squad, how novel.
Thank you. End of.Yes, there is. I’m not complaining about him trying to address problems. What I’m complaining about is him throwing the players to the wolves to protect himself from the shit job he’s done. He doesn’t have to name individuals when he says the whole team needs replacing apart from the goalkeeper. fecking hell.
It doesn’t bode well for a big game against Liverpool and potential 4th place push.
“Oi lads, by the way, you’re all shit”…
He didn’t spend £500m. It’s irrelevant though. Either publicly saying the players are shite is a problem or it isn’t.Mourinho said it after spending 500m. Can you imagine how tone deaf this would be after all that?
Who said intelligent debate can’t be found on online?Thank you. End of.
Well done Ralf. Thank feck he’s aware of what needs to be done.
I've been informed that Ralf's actually doing us a favour by showing the world how shit we are.
Saying that we need to improve in all areas other than goalkeeping doesn't mean that every player outside of goalkeepers is shit.He’s said they’re all shit. You don’t need to name drop for it to be negative. How about his role in how shit we’ve been since he took over? Considerably more shit than we were under Carrick.
The world sees that on a weekly basis. Nobody watches a game of United and thinks we are a good side.
Pogba the virus? Rangnick is saying what most people agree on, do you think we have any chance of winning today regardless?Which players did he sign that he made personal attacks on and what did he say? Why does he need to do it in public before we play Liverpool? The mental gymnastics on show here is quite impressive. Rangnick really has done a number on people.
There’s a way to say it. Jose said it then went on to talk about how great he was and what he’d won. 1, 2, 3 titles…When Mourinho said things like this he was toxic. When Rangnick says it he’s loved for it.
It’s very strange management, just after a moral boosting 3-2 win he decides to put the boot in before a really hard game against Liverpool.I've been informed that Ralf's actually doing us a favour by showing the world how shit we are.
Did Mourinho actually publicly call Pogba a virus? I thought if our fans agreed then he should be praised for saying it?Pogba the virus? Rangnick is saying what most people agree on, do you think we have any chance of winning today regardless?
Our season is realistically done because Rangnick couldn’t muster the same response from the players that Carrick did.
With the general consensus agreeing with Ralf I think it would be a very bad PR move to sack him for saying something everyone else is thinkingThe way Rangnick is going on I think he’ll get the boot rather than a consultancy job, not that I disagree with him but I doubt the board will.
He’s not going to be our long term manager because he’s nowhere near good enough to be. The squad is far from great. It’s also far from as bad as it’s looked since he took over.
I’m not advocating Carrick for the job full time. I’m saying it’s possible to get better results than Rangnick has. Rangnick is a bluffer and he’s pulled the wool over peoples eyes because they aren’t prepared to admit that maybe they were wrong.For 3 games. Ole did it for half a season even. And we gave him the perm job. That turned out well.
Carrick with a couple of years as assistant under failing managers and the buddy of the players sure would have gotten us the desired success. Jesus Christ.
You've totally missed the point here. Why bring Martial up when you can bring up Lukaku, or Mkhi, or Pogba, as in, the players he did sign and then shat on, which was my whole point. He also didn't inherit a squad mid season that had totally capitulated.It doesn’t really matter that he had nothing to do with signing them. Mourinho got shit for complaining about Martial, who he didn’t sign, didn’t want, and wasn’t allowed to sell. I just think the free pass Rangnick gets is a joke.
I don’t expect miracles from him. I did expect some kind of competence. He’s failed even at that.The squad has some individually good/great players(in Ronaldo's case). However building a squad that can actually play football together with a clear and enforced brand of football in mind is a different story and takes a truck load of skill and talent. SAF built multiple title winning teams in his time here, Klopp could do it time and time again at Liverpool no doubt. This is why it was a terrible idea to persist with Ole for three years.
I disagree. It’s the opposite, with those deficiencies it doesn’t matter who you have a CB or midfield we will always be weak to ball in behind and set pieces/crosses too. Shot stopping alone isn’t enough.I mean, there are lot more pressing issues. With a decent back four and midfield, whatever perceived deficiencies in DDG’s game will be even less noticeable
Yep, whether you agree or not the following players won’t be here in the summer:I mean, we're losing 2 midfielders and 2 forward for free, plus we have one other forward not playing due to being a scumbag. Plus our defenders are shit. We need a massive overhaul.
Maybe through fan logic, but from a business stand point it could be very damaging saying all your players are shit and need sold.With the general consensus agreeing with Ralf I think it would be a very bad PR move to sack him for saying something everyone else is thinking
3 games from someone who was their “mate”. Just the kind of management we wanted to continue withOur season is realistically done because Rangnick couldn’t muster the same response from the players that Carrick did.
When did he shit on Lukaku? He fecking loved Lukaku.You've totally missed the point here. Why bring Martial up when you can bring up Lukaku, or Mkhi, or Pogba, as in, the players he did sign and then shat on, which was my whole point. He also didn't inherit a squad mid season that had totally capitulated.
You defense of Jose is fecking weird. The man was toxic and criticised individuals in order to absolve himself from any blame at all. Clearly Ralf isn't doing the same thing here and is pointing out our shortcomings and what needs to be addressed.
Problem was the way Mourinho wanted to play and the way the club would like to play was different. It just showed how clueless the club is.When Mourinho said things like this he was toxic. When Rangnick says it he’s loved for it.
Oh well if he said that I would have agreed with him! Though I don’t think he had got any better ideas than LvG on how to actually improve it.That the squad wasn’t good enough? I’m pretty sure he did. Could be wrong though.