Ralf’s 4-2-2-2

[lex talionis]

Formations and tactics obviously matter, but what matters even more is the execution of basic skills. It sounds hyperbolic to claim this, but I see a lot of poor execution of basic skills from United players over the last 12 months. Both under Ole and still under Ralf. Apart from De Gea no one has performed consistently well, in terms of individual execution of basic skills, all season.

Address that and we’ll create scoring chances. And maybe finish on some of them.

 

[Marcus]

The question here is that how much time and how many matches we need to sacrifice until his system works. He is only interim manager so his time is limited and his aim is supposed to be both getting us top 4 and doing well in champions league at the end of the season.

Maybe it's about exposing players who are unable to hold their own and depending on others to cover them. Then once Ralf sees who cannot make the cut, they will be replaced when he goes into his consultancy role or even before. Ole's shielding of the CB with 4231 throws the attacking balance off the team. If there is a clear vision for the future, then weeding out the freeriders is an important part of the process. Play to our strengths, not our weaknesses. For the record, I of course don't know if 4222 is the way to go. I am no expert.

 

[Nordmore]

It’s shit. It won’t work and it doesn’t work, it’s like Oles suicidal 4-2-4 which ended his career. We are worse now than before with ole

In the last match it's actually a 2-2-6 with only Maguire and Varane at the back. Then more a 3-1-6 after Matic came on.

Imo it's actually better than the 4-2-4 because with 6 players up there we had more width with the two FB pushed very high playing like wingers and caused overloads in the wings. We tried to spread the ball from the back to our FBs numerous times. Our only goal actually came from one of those when Bruno managed to find Dalot. Or a very good chance earlier when Dalot found Cavani in the box but he couldn't finish it.

Of course that's very dangerous but we're chasing a goal down so it's understandable imo.

 

[Red the Bear]

Why not keep a simple 4 3 3 ? It could work as many of our players are used to it any way

 

[Ixion]

It’s shit. It won’t work and it doesn’t work, it’s like Oles suicidal 4-2-4 which ended his career. We are worse now than before with ole

I think you're not remembering the Villarreal, Leicester, Villa, Liverpool, City, Watford games well.

 

[LazyGoal]

Give it time!

There is no time to give. We have the better players. Just setup a normal system that they know how to play, and keep players in their preferd postions. We will win.

Ragnick is a short term manager, and must thereby focus on short term results. No need to build anything. Or are you guys saying we are going to find a world class 4222 manager — and who is that?

Ole lost is job becouse it was somehow belived we should be challenging with this squad and there by dominate all the games like City. We are obviously not good enough for that while we get to 90+ points, but we can reach +70 points and CL. If we want this then we need to stop with the experiements.

There is no time give. Shut up shop and counter for the 3 points. At least Ole proved that this squad can do that. Besides, as long as we get the first goal we are normaly fine, since the game opens up and good players know what to do with that space.

On top of that 4222 wont work in CL after christmas - we should just go 5-4-1 and regain controll from the back untill we have players who can controll from the front.

We also need to kill the dream about Ronaldo. Prime Ronaldo ended at least five years ago. He is very good at movibg, shootng and heading when facing the goal inside the box. But, that is just not enough to lead from the front - his stats are crazy bad except for the goals. In the 19/20 season Rashford, Martial and Greenwood had some 50 goals between them — id rather have that.Maybe we should just call him Oldnowdo. It would feel easyer to bench him.

There is no way 4222 and pressing from the front can work work Ronaldo either.

 

[Ixion]

Formations and tactics obviously matter, but what matters even more is the execution of basic skills. It sounds hyperbolic to claim this, but I see a lot of poor execution of basic skills from United players over the last 12 months.

A result of low standards, rewarding mediocrity. Our wage bill is miles above any other club in the league for no reason, they haven't earnt it on the pitch, and we have too many players that never have to worry about their starting place being under threat so there is no motivation to stay sharp, focused. We have some of the lowest workrate stats in the league and I would be amazed if the same doesn't happen in training as well. A rotten mentality from top to bottom in the club.

 

[Rake]

While I`m not certain that 4-2-2-2 is the way to go, I`m adamant that a player for Manchester United should be able to complete a 4-5 meter pass regardless of the formation. While we certainly have tactical familiarity issues but some of our touches and decision making were laughable. Most of our players looked like it is one of their first professional matches...

 

[Foxbatt]

Ole had three years and Ralf had three matches and you are calling for his head?
Yes I have some issues with him for his selection but his system is going to work. The only problem was the club dragged ole's sacking that by the time he was sacked we were fecked.
People are calling for the players to play in a system they are used to playing. That's why we were in trouble in the first place under Ole.

 

[Bestietom]

Formations and tactics obviously matter, but what matters even more is the execution of basic skills. It sounds hyperbolic to claim this, but I see a lot of poor execution of basic skills from United players over the last 12 months. Both under Ole and still under Ralf. Apart from De Gea no one has performed consistently well, in terms of individual execution of basic skills, all season.

Address that and we’ll create scoring chances. And maybe finish on some of them.

Ole had three years and Ralf had three matches and you are calling for his head?
Yes I have some issues with him for his selection but his system is going to work. The only problem was the club dragged ole's sacking that by the time he was sacked we were fecked.
People are calling for the players to play in a system they are used to playing. That's why we were in trouble in the first place under Ole.

Agree. It's the players who are to blame. You cannot play football strolling around.

 

[united for life]

Formations and tactics obviously matter, but what matters even more is the execution of basic skills. It sounds hyperbolic to claim this, but I see a lot of poor execution of basic skills from United players over the last 12 months. Both under Ole and still under Ralf. Apart from De Gea no one has performed consistently well, in terms of individual execution of basic skills, all season.

Address that and we’ll create scoring chances. And maybe finish on some of them.

it’s a result of players not understanding, or maybe poor execution of the tactics. I’m not going to talk about Ole days as this is behind us now. Under Ralf, I see that players are lost. some key observations I’ve had so far:

- where is the gegenpressing we kept hearing about when ralf’s name was put forward? I dont know much about ralf, but from what i read, i expected a better pressing game. Only saw this in his first game in charge.
- excessive change in positions during the game. At one point against Newcastle, rashford was deep in central midfield creating play. What was that!
- bruno is out of position. If we want him back to his best, and he is actually a pretty good player, he needs to play in his preferred position. Not on the left or deep as a CM.
- full backs look bad because of the role they are given. They are basically asked to cover the whole wing area (defensively and offensively) as wingbacks although they are not part of a formation that requires and covers wingbacks, such as 343.
- full backs are often the highest players forward which leaves them with limited options. Basically, pass the ball backwards as they don’t have a winger there. Dalot, to his credit, managed a good assist to cavani. But that is and will continue to be a rare scene.
- central midfield still lacks creativity. I would have thought one of the things ralf would do is give vdb more game time as he is the only cm who knows how to pass the ball forward.

he is an interim manager and i don’t think he’ll be given the full time job. So is he preparing the team for next year as he should be? No. The two favorites, pochettino and ten hag, do not play 4222. So why invest in this?

also, a good manager works with the tools he has to get the best out of his players. This is not done. We have a team packed with wingers and we play with none… im not saying ralf is a bad manager, i actually dont know, but just an observation.

as a theory, i absolutely hate this formation. In practice, i have not seen anything to make me rethink this. Ralf is lucky to take charge during a relatively easy series of games. Imagine playing like this in the fixtures during Ole’s last 45 days…

more questions than answers at this stage for me.

 

[LazyGoal]

While I`m not certain that 4-2-2-2 is the way to go, I`m adamant that a player for Manchester United should be able to complete a 4-5 meter pass regardless of the formation. While we certainly have tactical familiarity issues but some of our touches and decision making were laughable. Most of our players looked like it is one of their first professional matches...

Yes. Uncertainty will do strange things to you when things are moving fast.

 

[captaincantona]

it’s a result of players not understanding, or maybe poor execution of the tactics. I’m not going to talk about Ole days as this is behind us now. Under Ralf, I see that players are lost. some key observations I’ve had so far:

- where is the gegenpressing we kept hearing about when ralf’s name was put forward? I dont know much about ralf, but from what i read, i expected a better pressing game. Only saw this in his first game in charge.
- excessive change in positions during the game. At one point against Newcastle, rashford was deep in central midfield creating play. What was that!
- bruno is out of position. If we want him back to his best, and he is actually a pretty good player, he needs to play in his preferred position. Not on the left or deep as a CM.
- full backs look bad because of the role they are given. They are basically asked to cover the whole wing area (defensively and offensively) as wingbacks although they are not part of a formation that requires and covers wingbacks, such as 343.
- full backs are often the highest players forward which leaves them with limited options. Basically, pass the ball backwards as they don’t have a winger there. Dalot, to his credit, managed a good assist to cavani. But that is and will continue to be a rare scene.
- central midfield still lacks creativity. I would have thought one of the things ralf would do is give vdb more game time as he is the only cm who knows how to pass the ball forward.

he is an interim manager and i don’t think he’ll be given the full time job. So is he preparing the team for next year as he should be? No. The two favorites, pochettino and ten hag, do not play 4222. So why invest in this?

also, a good manager works with the tools he has to get the best out of his players. This is not done. We have a team packed with wingers and we play with none… im not saying ralf is a bad manager, i actually dont know, but just an observation.

as a theory, i absolutely hate this formation. In practice, i have not seen anything to make me rethink this. Ralf is lucky to take charge during a relatively easy series of games. Imagine playing like this in the fixtures during Ole’s last 45 days…

more questions than answers at this stage for me.

You are ignoring the fact though...that even if we had played a different formation-

- the number of individual errors in being caught on the ball,
- the number of basic passes not executed,
- the general lack of urgency and pressing as a unit,

would have meant we looked terrible regardless. Ralf clearly spoke about physicality after the game,not happy with the energy and with winning second balls which is basically a polite way of saying “the lads were not fuking up for the fight”. Formations don’t fix these types of issues.

Of more concern is the body language and feeling coming from the place. No players praising the new gaffer, their old pals all gone, talk of long phone calls and not having the opportunity to instill ideas face to face. A number of players looking for the exit door- which is ultimately a good thing I reckon. It’s difficult but when your captain looks for excuses after every game and your best players spend more time talking to the ref than to the rest of the team before running for the tunnel- somethings not right. It may just be that this cushdy air of safety and collecting a paycheque around the club is being dismantled and the players are not completely on board. If so, I’ll take the short term pain for the long term gain that hopefully the next manager will benefit from.

it’s mad...Ole’s cultural reset seems to have created a real problem. So much for “knowing what it takes to be a United player”. On evidence, only De Gea, Henderson, Cavani, McT really stand outas having a proper mentality minus the prima Donna, off field interference or on field drama. Not needed- just get on with it...god knows they are being paid enough.

 

[Trex]

This united team constitute of three kind of players
Players who treat the ball like its hot potatoes
This players lack the basic concept technical level required to play at Manchester e.g Fred, Mctominay, Wan bissaka, you can't play proper football with this players and its a total disgrace both our starting midfielders fall into this category.

Players who play proper team football

This players have technical requirements and a certain understanding of playing as team to play at Manchester united but we need better structuring to get it done e.g Sancho, Cavani, Shaw, Telles, Dalot, Varane, Maguire, Van de beek, Lindelof.

Players who play way too instinctively

This category include the superstars and wannabe superstars, players who are way too selfish and refuse to get back to the basic concepts of football, no system of football can accommodate more than one player playing this way and be successful they include Fernandes, Ronaldo, Pogba, Rashford, Pogba, Greenwood.

The growth of this third category is down to Ole "front four wing it approach", Rangnick and the potential new manager would need to get the likes of Fernandes, Rashford, Greenwood playing more for the team even at the expense of their individual stats while completely overhauling the midfield if we want to see Manchester united look like a proper team on the field of play.

 

[RedStarUnited]

Formations and tactics obviously matter, but what matters even more is the execution of basic skills. It sounds hyperbolic to claim this, but I see a lot of poor execution of basic skills from United players over the last 12 months. Both under Ole and still under Ralf. Apart from De Gea no one has performed consistently well, in terms of individual execution of basic skills, all season.

Address that and we’ll create scoring chances. And maybe finish on some of them.

Agreed completely. Said it before, I dont know why people bother discussing tactics when we struggle to make simple passes. Bruno is wasting the ball most of the time he gets it, whats the formation going to do about that?

 

[united for life]

You are ignoring the fact though...that even if we had played a different formation-

- the number of individual errors in being caught on the ball,
- the number of basic passes not executed,
- the general lack of urgency and pressing as a unit,

would have meant we looked terrible regardless. Ralf clearly spoke about physicality after the game,not happy with the energy and with winning second balls which is basically a polite way of saying “the lads were not fuking up for the fight”. Formations don’t fix these types of issues.

Of more concern is the body language and feeling coming from the place. No players praising the new gaffer, their old pals all gone, talk of long phone calls and not having the opportunity to instill ideas face to face. A number of players looking for the exit door- which is ultimately a good thing I reckon. It’s difficult but when your captain looks for excuses after every game and your best players spend more time talking to the ref than to the rest of the team before running for the tunnel- somethings not right. It may just be that this cushdy air of safety and collecting a paycheque around the club is being dismantled and the players are not completely on board. If so, I’ll take the short term pain for the long term gain that hopefully the next manager will benefit from.

it’s mad...Ole’s cultural reset seems to have created a real problem. So much for “knowing what it takes to be a United player”. On evidence, only De Gea, Henderson, Cavani, McT really stand outas having a proper mentality minus the prima Donna, off field interference or on field drama. Not needed- just get on with it...god knows they are being paid enough.

reading your post made me think of how fans blamed Ole for his tactics, or lack of them, and almost never pointed fingers at the players. Not saying you did that, not sure, but that was the general atmosphere - blame Ole. Now suddenly it’s the players who need to be blamed.

i would say it’s a mixture of both and I think we should all move on from blaming Ole. The dressing room was worse during Mourinho’s time for instance. It’s actually not that bad now. The morale needs to be lifted though. The team has been underperforming since 2013. So let’s not keep using Ole as a scapegoat even after he’s gone.

So although I agree the players need to up their game, I don’t think the tactics help and i don’t think this is the way we should play. As i said, i disagree with it on paper before disagreeing with it on the pitch. I genuinely do not see the right flow, might be bad execution, but still in principle all this position changing and full backs left alone add to it a poor pair of CMs makes us look very ugly. Man we were outplayed by Newcastle! Don’t tell me it’s McFred issue. You don’t need a Kroos-Modric midfield to dominate shelvey and longstaff.

players need to show dedication and commitment, but to get the best out of these players, we at least need to play them in their correct positions and ask them to execute something they are capable of executing. Currently, we just look all over the place

 

[Greck]

reading your post made me think of how fans blamed Ole for his tactics, or lack of them, and almost never pointed fingers at the players. Not saying you did that, not sure, but that was the general atmosphere - blame Ole. Now suddenly it’s the players who need to be blamed.

Because it's not true. Everyone blames the players in the first couple months. By this point in Ole's tenure Fellaini, Lukaku and a bunch of Jose players wee taking the brunt of criticism for not being good enough. Even Ole got in on the action saying some of these players won't be here next year. It's when they've been given time and spent hundreds of millions the blame shifts. You can't be saying players not good enough for players you bought. You can't say squad not good enough after spending millions because everyone is now going to wonder what you improved with all that backing. All of them outspend their peers in the time they're here. No one is trying to hear that.

 

[united for life]

Because it's not true. Everyone blames the players in the first couple months. By this point in Ole's tenure Fellaini, Lukaku and a bunch of Jose players wee taking the brunt of criticism for not being good enough. Even Ole got in on the action saying some of these players won't be here next year. It's when they've been given time and spent hundreds of millions the blame shifts. You can't be saying players not good enough for players you bought. You can't say squad not good enough after spending millions because everyone is now going to wonder what you improved with all that backing. All of them outspend their peers in the time they're here. No one is trying to hear that.

i went on to say the responsibility is split and actually said players need to step up. Since the threat is about the tactics, ill go back to say that j don’t believe in 4222 for the reasons i’ve mentioned. I really hope ralf isn’t given a huge transfer budget in january. We don’t want to spend much on players the next manager might not see fit to his plans…

 

[Eli Zee]

I honestly think the problem with the 4-2-2-2 is the forwards and AM's.

we 100% can improve on mctominay and Fred, sure. But that's not required for this formation to work, in my opinion.

From my understanding, part of our problem is Rashford / ronaldo only want to go on runs for balls in behind 90% of the time - this means they are shit at linking up with our midfielders / keeping possession / controlling the game. If the don't get.l on the end of a through ball, they essentially offer nothing the whole game. Defenders can easily watch and guard these players, even more so when the AM's aren't offering much movement either.

often times, our two AM are just standing still also, they aren't linking well with the DM or forwards.... there's just no good link up play anywhere. It's either side to side passes that go no where and don't get opposition players out of position or a through ball to ronaldo/Rashford.

i feel bad for the defenders/DMs though.... the forwards/AM's literally offer no movement for the majority of the game. Maybe I'm 1000% wrong for my opinion here, but I think that's one of our bigger problems. We try to control the game but have players who are good at only counter attacking and fail to improve at other styles of play


There's few times during games you see good link up play, movement and quick passes between a few players when we're in position and you think to yourself "holy shit, that was so awesome...why can't they do this consistently? We'd dominate teams if they would." Then the rest of the time it's just through balls and sideways passes

 

[Greck]

i went on to say the responsibility is split and actually said players need to step up. Since the threat is about the tactics, ill go back to say that j don’t believe in 4222 for the reasons i’ve mentioned. I really hope ralf isn’t given a huge transfer budget in january. We don’t want to spend much on players the next manager might not see fit to his plans…

okay my bad I missed that, although point stands that I think the accountability sharing has actually favoured the managers in their first couple months. Rangnick out threads will litter this place if he stayed on and we didn't imporve after a year or two. There's no favoritisms and there should be none no matter who the name is. I think we have the opposite problem of being too forgiving after they've been here long.

 

[Matt851]

The question here is that how much time and how many matches we need to sacrifice until his system works. He is only interim manager so his time is limited and his aim is supposed to be both getting us top 4 and doing well in champions league at the end of the season.

Giving it time is a stupid idea.

It doesn't suit the squad we have at the moment and not confident it even suits the league. Given he is just an interim we should allow him to sign players just to make this system work.

If he perseveres with it too long it could kill our season

 

[lex talionis]

it’s a result of players not understanding, or maybe poor execution of the tactics. I’m not going to talk about Ole days as this is behind us now. Under Ralf, I see that players are lost. some key observations I’ve had so far:

- where is the gegenpressing we kept hearing about when ralf’s name was put forward? I dont know much about ralf, but from what i read, i expected a better pressing game. Only saw this in his first game in charge.
- excessive change in positions during the game. At one point against Newcastle, rashford was deep in central midfield creating play. What was that!
- bruno is out of position. If we want him back to his best, and he is actually a pretty good player, he needs to play in his preferred position. Not on the left or deep as a CM.
- full backs look bad because of the role they are given. They are basically asked to cover the whole wing area (defensively and offensively) as wingbacks although they are not part of a formation that requires and covers wingbacks, such as 343.
- full backs are often the highest players forward which leaves them with limited options. Basically, pass the ball backwards as they don’t have a winger there. Dalot, to his credit, managed a good assist to cavani. But that is and will continue to be a rare scene.
- central midfield still lacks creativity. I would have thought one of the things ralf would do is give vdb more game time as he is the only cm who knows how to pass the ball forward.

he is an interim manager and i don’t think he’ll be given the full time job. So is he preparing the team for next year as he should be? No. The two favorites, pochettino and ten hag, do not play 4222. So why invest in this?

also, a good manager works with the tools he has to get the best out of his players. This is not done. We have a team packed with wingers and we play with none… im not saying ralf is a bad manager, i actually dont know, but just an observation.

as a theory, i absolutely hate this formation. In practice, i have not seen anything to make me rethink this. Ralf is lucky to take charge during a relatively easy series of games. Imagine playing like this in the fixtures during Ole’s last 45 days…

more questions than answers at this stage for me.

Outstanding points. Many thanks to the other posters who replied to my concerns but I would like to amplify these points just a bit.

The fabled gegenpressing vanished almost instantly, predictably so. We don’t have the players for it. Given our situation right now the imperative is getting results. We’re back IMO to Individual Brilliance to get us through. Players are auditioning for the World Cup and are not going to knuckle down and submit themselves to tactics that will not let them shine brightly. Hollywood balls, taking wild shots, excessive dribbling, dawdling on the ball out of the back are standard fare for these players, Ralf be damned. RAF is not going to drop his galacticos no matter how shit they play.

All we can hope for now is that land fourth place so that we can give 10 Hag or whoever or may be a chance to flush the toilet and rebuild the squad. And if that sounds a bit crazy, consider the names of all the players who are all but certain to be gone by the summer. It’s a ridiculously long list for a club of stature in the PL.

 

[MattofManchester]

Why do we need to play with 2 CFs like that?
Our most creative player thrives as the 10, so why not shift one deeper into that role, so it looks more like a 4-2-2-1-1, or 4-4-1-1, to be clearer. It would likely give him freedom too and to support Ronaldo.
Bruno is not a wide player, and Rashford is a hopeless CF who seems to have lost his motivation when it comes to football.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Is Ralf really going to give up on the formation he’s built his career on after a few games?

 

[JuriM]

Is Ralf really going to give up on the formation he’s built his career on after a few games?

He really isn't an one trick pony in terms of formations - he has use a hybrid setup of 3-4-1-2, 4-2-2-2, 2-3-2-1-2 mainly which changes whether in possession or defending - like Pep and Bielsa formations always have done.

The 4-2-2-2 was mainly crafted for Leipzig in final form and fit their players the most.

 

[Ixion]

It would be dumb for him to give up on a system so quickly, things take time. If he's going to have a role for the next few years in some capacity then he should absolutely be sticking with the system and advising we get players that will suit it, 5-6 in the current squad are going to be gone soon anyway.

 

[stoinz]

Think Rangnick mentioned it a few times during his interview that it is not the formation that he places emphasis on but the mindset of the players, looking for the first pass, running into channels when in possession, closing down players when out of possession. And there was talk about implementing a stop clock (passing within seconds of receiving ball), anticipating a pass, training closer to match time, more aggressive in challenging opponents when out of possessions, not passing about between the defense.

These are less to do with formation. Unfortunately, even during Mourinho's time, you can see our players taking a long time to pick a pass, walking about when out of possessions, mis-placing simple passes when defending resulting in goals or in recent memories Magguire and Bruno making stupid passes in defense resulting in goals.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

People spend way too much time analysing formations.

2 Managers can play the same formations with the same players and have very different emphasis on patterns/ transitions and other bits. Formations are not everything, it's clear the issues stem from chemistry and the players not pressing enough, working hard enough or understanding their team mates movements.

 

[Garethw]

While I`m not certain that 4-2-2-2 is the way to go, I`m adamant that a player for Manchester United should be able to complete a 4-5 meter pass regardless of the formation. While we certainly have tactical familiarity issues but some of our touches and decision making were laughable. Most of our players looked like it is one of their first professional matches...

It looked like a players downing tools kind of performance to me.

It reeks of a squad that’s used to doing whatever it wants.

 

[Garethw]

All I want from RR is for him to modernise our coaching and the tactical discipline of the players and hopefully.squeeze us into the top 4 ready for the next permanent manager.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

I’m all for playing the best formation to get the most out of the players at our disposal but part of me thinks this 4-2-2-2 isn’t working correctly due to the players not bothering their arse rather than it being so unsuited to the squad.

 

[Garethw]

I’m all for playing the best formation to get the most out of the players at our disposal but part of me thinks this 4-2-2-2 isn’t working correctly due to the players not bothering their arse rather than it being so unsuited to the squad.

Unfortunately I think you are right pal.

 

[::sonny::]

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Unfortunately I think you are right pal.

Yep. These lot need a rocket up their arse, they’ve had it far too easy for too long.

 

[Guapa]

Formations my ar*e.Ole's gone now which is what we all wanted(no disrespect).It's time for the players to put up or ship out.The league & League cup are gone.Baring some divine intervention we ain't winning Champions league and I don't even think we're good enough to have a run at the FAcup with these work shy bunch of c*nts we have representing our great club.I hope RR is already looking to the future and I think he just might be.Sack this season off and start rebuilding today.I totally respect R7's genius and it's been box office but he's not the future.

 

[Ayoba]

How was he doing with locomotive Moscow this season?

 

[Frank Grimes]

System doesn't suit our players. You need to be able to hold the ball in midfield and give the full backs time to push forward to create the width. This is never going to happen with Fred and Mctominay.

Bruno needs to learn to come back into central midfield more and supply simple passes to the wing like he did for Dalot versus Newcastle. Searching out Ronaldo every time in a crowded penalty box is damaging to our attacking play.

 

[OrcaFat]

Ole had three years and Ralf had three matches and you are calling for his head?
Yes I have some issues with him for his selection but his system is going to work. The only problem was the club dragged ole's sacking that by the time he was sacked we were fecked.
People are calling for the players to play in a system they are used to playing. That's why we were in trouble in the first place under Ole.

We will always have a vocal proportion of the fan base calling for the manager to be sacked, pretty much from day one, no matter who it is, unless we are winning all our games. This guy has a decent reputation but almost no big club success and will be an easy target.

I have to laugh or else I’d probably be crying.

 

[Lee565]

A lot of fans didn't want conte because he his style wouldn't suit our club but he is not as drab as what we are seeing under ralf and let's not act like conte has some amazing team to select from either compared to what ralf has to choose from.

 

[Berbasbullet]

A lot of fans didn't want conte because he his style wouldn't suit our club but he is not as drab as what we are seeing under ralf and let's not act like conte has some amazing team to select from either compared to what ralf has to choose from.

Maybe we can give Ralf longer than a few games with a covid ravaged squad?