PS3 as a blu ray player.

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Right, I want to get a standalone BR player. . .but I've also been considering a GayStation 3

This is What Hifi says(basically get a dedicated BR player if BR is all you want)


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For
As impressively flexible as ever, but now sleeker and quieter than before; more storage space than older models; now outputs bitstream HD audio
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Against
Still not quite the equal of a dedicated BD player

We've long been fans of Sony's extraordinary PlayStation3, and not only because we're dedicated players of Pro Evolution Soccer.

Somehow describing it as a mere games console understates the astonishing breadth of its capability: a PS3 can play your DVDs and Blu-rays to a decent standard, store your digital music and photos, record your favourite TV (with the addition of the PlayTV module) and much more besides.

Small wonder our readers bestowed the magazine's first ever Reader Award on it last year.

And now, it's even better than before. The PS3 has had a makeover, with the new version claimed to be 33 per cent slimmer and lighter than the original.

Power consumption has also been reduced, with concomitant benefits to fan noise, while the new model also sports a larger hard disk than the standard PS3, with 120GB as against 80GB.

The only downsides we can see are that it's a little less attractive, at least to our eyes – the matt black finish is somehow less alluring than the gloss of the previous model – and that, despite being slimmer and narrower, it's still quite deep front to back (deeper, in fact than the earlier version of the console).

Can now bitstream HD audio
But no matter. What really counts is that while picture performance seems on a par with older models, the latest PS3 now boasts the ability to bitstream HD audio formats like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD from its HDMI output, a move sure to cement its appeal with home cinema buffs.

Older players had to decode HD soundtracks on board, outputting them as multichannel PCM: in practice, this didn't necessarily amount to much, but it made the world of difference to frustrated AV buffs keen to see the requisite Dolby or DTS information scrolling across the displays of their AV receivers.

Incidentally, we've no word yet as to whether this feature will be made available as a firmware upgrade to owners of older PS3s: keep an eye on whathifi.com for news as it comes.

So far so impressive. What about quality? In essence, it's the same as before, which is to say very good for what it is.

Sure, in outright quality terms, the PS3's picture doesn't quite stand comparison with a cheaper dedicated BD player like Sony's BDP-S360: playing both Blu-rays and DVDs, you'll notice slight losses in clarity, low-light detail and stability.

But we think that's acceptable given the breath of the new console's abilities: in fairness, a dedicated Blu-ray player is lousy as a games console. So, five stars it is.
 
the only downside to the ps3 is the fan can be a little noisy when watching films, also miss having an lcd display on the front telling you how long is left.

Other than that cant fault it
 
the only downside to the ps3 is the fan can be a little noisy when watching films, also miss having an lcd display on the front telling you how long is left.

Other than that cant fault it

Yeah but I'd only want one. . .if the blu ray's as good as a decent standalone. I'll probably get the Sony I linked above.
 
The beauty of the PS3 regarding it being a BD player is that it's all done in software, there is not specific hardware in there to do anything. The downside of that is as James says, the Cell processor needs a fan. At the end of the day it's all down to SCE's implementations of the codecs, etc. nothing to do with the hardware, but at least the software is easily changeable. There is nothing for example stopping them adding stuff that you are going to find on Toshiba's up and coming Cell TV if SCE could get access to that code. It was at launch favoured very well in comparison to $2000 BD players.
 
Incidentally, we've no word yet as to whether this feature will be made available as a firmware upgrade to owners of older PS3s: keep an eye on whathifi.com for news as it comes.

This is poor journalism BTW. Do you have a link to this?

There is no way to change that on the older PS "fat" models, as it uses an HDMI interface chip that doesn't allow for it. Cell does it for you instead of your receiver. If you have a good receiver capable of DTS-HD/MA then the newer slim model won't have to bother.
 
For what its worth the fan on the PS3 really isn't that loud as long as your console is in an open space and not got the vents blocked. I've got a DVD on it now and can just about hear it seeing as its paused but when its playing you sure as hell don't notice it.
 
I wanted a BLU RAY player on its own. After reading millions of reviews, and this was about a year ago, it said the PS3 was the best player on the market. Its even got that added function of a games console. I very rarely play games on mine. As for watching films, its the dogs bollocks. Ive never heard the fans at all aswell. I would seriously buy a ps3 than any other blu ray.
 
If you can hear the fan then you havent got the movie volume up loud enough.
 
I think the PS3 is a stunningly good Blu Ray player. It is also pretty damn good at playing downloaded movies which you can stream to it from your puter. And it can be a good digital recorder with a cheap add on etc etc etc

Best bit of electronic gear that I have ever bought.

And I don't even play games (but my son does and he loves it for that, the new Batman in particular).
 
I think the quality from a PS3 and a stand alone Blu-ray player is going to be negligible really. I mean are you going to notice 'that' much in terms of picture quality?

As for the noise, I'd imagine as a film buff you'll have a home theater setup and there is no way you'll hear the fan on the PS3 over the film volume. Its not a very loud fan at all, not unlike a certain other console we all know and love.

It's got so many strings to its bow that I don't think you'd be at all disappointed if you was to get one.
 
If you can hear the fan then you havent got the movie volume up loud enough.

or you have neighbours whose bedroom is above your lounge

or your ears are tuned in to fans, i have to go round the house and shut the toilet/bathroom/kitchen doors, as they all have extractor fans in them
 
I think it’s safe to say that there is an undercurrent of condescension against using a games console to play back Blu-ray Discs in a “serious” home cinema environment. The thinking, I suppose, goes that a games machine couldn’t possibly compete with “real” high end players. In reality, this theoretical argument doesn't really hold any water: the CPU inside the Playstation3 is far more powerful than the chips inside standalone machines, and like every other dedicated BD player, can easily decode all of BD’s supported video and audio formats without cutting corners. And although it was designed for playing games, there’s no reason whatsoever why the PS3’s processor shouldn't be able to deliver high quality BD playback. With that said, processing power alone doesn't guarantee high quality output, but we'll examine this thoroughly in the review.

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Sony Playstation 3 Slim Blu-ray Disc Player Review at AVForums.com

Here's what they thought of your TV by the way Spoony. Panasonic TX-P50V10 Review at AVForums.com
 
I think the PS3 is a stunningly good Blu Ray player. It is also pretty damn good at playing downloaded movies which you can stream to it from your puter. And it can be a good digital recorder with a cheap add on etc etc etc

Best bit of electronic gear that I have ever bought.

And I don't even play games (but my son does and he loves it for that, the new Batman in particular).

Thats a crackin endorsement man. Cant wait to get my hands on one when i'm a tad more flush :cool:
 
Works well for me, though i have to say, i dont get that many Blu-Rays. The fans not lound on mine either - maybe thats becasue i have mine vertically.

What the PS3 does do well is upscale your DVDs.
 
Thats a crackin endorsement man. Cant wait to get my hands on one when i'm a tad more flush :cool:

We bought it to play play Blue Ray because I bought Blade Runner in that format and because there was a special on the let us upgrade for about 50 quid with a trade in of an old x-box and 10 games. We have fallen in love with the thing because it does everything we want. Free legal music videos, digital recorder etc etc.

And it upscales dvd's so that most seem to look better than when played on a standard dvd player. We use it to play compressed films (not in any way illegally downloaded), mainly of only about 700mb in size, on a 50 inch plasma and you rarely notice the reduction in quality.
 
We bought it to play play Blue Ray because I bought Blade Runner in that format and because there was a special on the let us upgrade for about 50 quid with a trade in of an old x-box and 10 games. We have fallen in love with the thing because it does everything we want. Free legal music videos, digital recorder etc etc.

And it upscales dvd's so that most seem to look better than when played on a standard dvd player. We use it to play compressed films (not in any way illegally downloaded), mainly of only about 700mb in size, on a 50 inch plasma and you rarely notice the reduction in quality.

Had just written you a respectable reply, then my boss shows up at my pc, so I had to log off the Caf - bugger :(

The jest of it was - fair play on the information man, I most certainly will be purchasing a PS3 sooner or later, when the brass becomes more available & I wont be listening to a few of my mates who have turned to the darkside i.e. the Xbox & thus have bitten the hand that fed them!

I only wish Sony hadnt of changed the casing on the new slim version. I loved the shiny original - reminded me of Kitt from Knightrider, but I live in hope they bring out a new version of the slim-line with the shiny casing - then my friend I will be in console heaven :angel:

Nice one man - have a great weekend with the family & keep on gaming :)
 


It's a fantastic plasma, Weaste. You'll love yours.

Anyway, here's where I copy and pasted that article from:

Sony PS3 Slim Blu-ray player review - from the experts at whathifi.com

But I just want one that plays BR well. . . so what makes you say I should get a PS3 over say a Sony S360(linked below)? You should bear in mind that I'll be watching it on that Pana P50V10.

Sony BDP-S360 Blu-ray player review - from the experts at whathifi.com
 
It's a fantastic plasma, Weaste. You'll love yours.

Anyway, here's where I copy and pasted that article from:

Sony PS3 Slim Blu-ray player review - from the experts at whathifi.com

But I just want one that plays BR well. . . so what makes you say I should get a PS3 over say a Sony S360(linked below)? You should bear in mind that I'll be watching it on that Pana P50V10.

Sony BDP-S360 Blu-ray player review - from the experts at whathifi.com

For an extra £10 you're getting a Blu-rau player at least equal to the majority of stand alone player and (and more or less to the one you've linked) the ability to play games, browse online and do a whole host of other things.

For an extra £10 I think it represents value for money.
 
For an extra £10 you're getting a Blu-rau player at least equal to the majority of stand alone player and (and more or less to the one you've linked) the ability to play games, browse online and do a whole host of other things.

For an extra £10 I think it represents value for money.


Yeah but WhatHi doesn't rate its BR as highly as the standalone Sony I linked. Also, you have to realise that I've got a fecking huge Pana. . . so, I presume a difference in quality would show up. Last of all. . .I can get hold of Sony 360 from £140.
 
Some of that may be down to the settings they tested the PS3 with? Slight losses in clarity and low light details? What does that mean exactly? The AVSForums review says that for movie playback the PS3 isn't fiddling with the source image at all.

For BDMV (pre-recorded Blu-ray Disc Movie software), the three noise reduction controls are unavailable. Part of me wonders if this is a political decision from Sony to protect sales of standalone machines that offer similar functions to these, or perhaps a quality-centric decision designed to leave movie content untouched. The availability of these controls for discs arranged in BDAV mode shows the machine has the necessary processing power to perform video processing on high-def content, but in any case, these are the first controls that I always turn off on standalones, anyway. Good riddance.

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People are still wary of using a games console to play back movies, though – after all, the machine could be tinkering with the video to give it a specific “look”. Fortunately, it seems that Sony Computer Entertainment understands that a hands-off approach is best when it comes to films. When the PS3 detects the presence of a BDMV-formatted disc, not only are noise reduction controls made unavailable, but a different chroma filtering method is used, according to Sony's official documentation. It appears that every effort has gone to preserve the image as intended by the director. I made sure to measure the output of the machine on our reference Plasma display, the Pioneer KURO PDP-LX5090 (which has perfectly flat Greyscale and Gamma tracking), and confirmed that no gamma alteration or colour “enhancement” was going on.

We can't really ask for (much) more than a machine that decodes video and plays it back as-is, and that's exactly what the Playstation3 does, which means that it scores as “Excellent” for HD image quality. To obtain “Reference” status according to our review criteria, a player must do all of the above AND give the user the option of turning on effective anti-banding filtering, to remove the damage done to smooth gradients by 8-bit video compression. So far, no BD player has gone this extra few percent, but this is really the hypothetical icing on the cake – so I'm more than happy to wait.
 
Yeah but WhatHi doesn't rate its BR as highly as the standalone Sony I linked. Also, you have to realise that I've got a fecking huge Pana. . . so, I presume a difference in quality would show up. Last of all. . .I can get hold of Sony 360 from £140.

I don't think you would notice that much of a difference. It actually seems that you've made your decision already...
 
After my Xbox events tonight, I may buy one of these this weekend...
 
The fan on our PS3 (which I agree is a great blu-ray player) is bloody noisy. Gaffs mentions his being upright - no filth intended - anyone else noticed less fan noise when they have changed from horizontal to vertical?
 
It's 60 cheaper, and as I said I'm not too bothered about gaming. So, yeah you're probably right.

You wouldn't notice the difference and a PS3 does lots lots more than a standalone BR player. Well worth the extra 60 quid even if you never play a game on it - which you will.

I watched a few top end BR players last week and I couldn't tell the difference.
 
I have a fairly old PS3, I live in a hot country, use it all the time and I don't remember hearing the fan at all. It is in a shelf steup below the TV which may muffle the noise a bit but it can't be that loud. My old digital recorder sounded like a helicopter taking off in comparison.
 
You wouldn't notice the difference and a PS3 does lots lots more than a standalone BR player. Well worth the extra 60 quid even if you never play a game on it - which you will.

I watched a few top end BR players last week and I couldn't tell the difference.

To be honest, I may end up getting one. Now, my only other gripe with it, is a lack of an analogue output.
 
I have a fairly old PS3, I live in a hot country, use it all the time and I don't remember hearing the fan at all. It is in a shelf steup below the TV which may muffle the noise a bit but it can't be that loud. My old digital recorder sounded like a helicopter taking off in comparison.

Hmmm. This is making me wonder if there is problem with ours. The fan is not on continuously but when it kicks in it is very noticeable and can stay on for 5 minutes. It better not be getting ready to die before Xmas and the new round of blu-ray shaped pressies.
 
If you have an older, non-HDMI receiver, you'll be stuck using the optical output on the PS3 Slim for your audio. That means you won't get the full resolution of new high-resolution Blu-ray soundtracks like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. Granted, the differences between Dolby TrueHD and plain ol' Dolby may not be that large, but purists will appreciate the analog output available on some standalone players.


Is a bit off putting - I've got a good audio set up.
 
Hmmm. This is making me wonder if there is problem with ours. The fan is not on continuously but when it kicks in it is very noticeable and can stay on for 5 minutes. It better not be getting ready to die before Xmas and the new round of blu-ray shaped pressies.

I'll try to remember to listen tonight when we have a film on pause.