Spot on mate. You know what, I think Ole purposely lost this game to help ease the pressure on the lads of the away unbeaten run. Smart that by Ole, start fresh.
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Leicester City 4:2 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Sat, 16 October 2021
Spot on mate. You know what, I think Ole purposely lost this game to help ease the pressure on the lads of the away unbeaten run. Smart that by Ole, start fresh.
Pogba is not a cm and Matic is not even nearly good enough to run everything on his own. Fred and Scott are a decent cm pairing when they are on song but thats it really. We desperately need some quality players for that position.
But having said that, we should still be able to do way better than this. We are in shocking form right now. Need a proper miracle next weekend
But having said that, we should still be able to do way better than this. We are in shocking form right now. Need a proper miracle next weekend
I got up for dinner at 1-1 at the 76th min thinking it'll be a draw and 2 points dropped. WTF happened in the last 15 mins ?
Ronaldo isn't slow. He's one of our fastest players.
There doesn't seem to be any discernable tactic to our pattern of play.
Our manager throws a bunch of big names and uber-talented players into a match and hopes that a few of them use individual skill to create/score a goal.
Ronaldo's last gasp goal to beat Villareal is indicative of this. We buy one of the best strikers on the planet and he bailed us out. 99% of other strikers would not have got that goal and we'd have drawn and been in big trouble in the CL group.
Thanks Ty.
Judge in February, if United are within 6 points of top then, progress will be clear.
Probably a bit of both. If it's a one off then it's on AWB, but i think training and tactics is holdiing him back
Ey… our Ole is playing chess while we’re thinking he’s managing a team playing football
There's an irony to the biggest and best squad we've had in an age being his undoing - at this point, with this kind of squad, the excuses that were once in place simply do not cut it and, knowing the calibre of the players we've got in this summer, their pedigree has long since been established and that makes things untenable, imo.
What bothers me more than the results is the way we bumble from one game to the next, never showing net improvements or even having anything to certifiably point at and say 'this is where we're going.' Without that, it's just an aimless procedure that needs to be put to bed now - there's no reason to believe things will suddenly turn around as we have no cohesion, structure or collective gameplan.
4-2 Leicester bothers me less than watching us look so, so poor with no constructive takes to make about us as a unit.
We will be 16 off by then the way we are playing
Leicester scored more goals than us.I got up for dinner at 1-1 at the 76th min thinking it'll be a draw and 2 points dropped. WTF happened in the last 15 mins ?
Ok come clean. Who are the 1% who thought it would be absolutely hysterical to pick Maguire as MOTM? 
We will lose to Atalanta and Liverpool putting Ole and his band of amateurs on the brink but they'll be saved by a fluke Spurs own goal in the 99th minute, earning us a draw that breaks the losing streak but keeps us winless in October. Boo!
It will get much worse in the coming games. You either watch games or you stay sane.
Conceding that 3rd goal was utterly criminal.
You've just got back into it, with a brilliant goal, Rashy is back etc.
Then that.
Just so tumescent.
You've just got back into it, with a brilliant goal, Rashy is back etc.
Then that.
Just so tumescent.
Aside from a moment of individual brilliance from Greenwood, the whole team (including Greenwood) really was poor. Yes Maguire played a week to soon but this team has a huge performance issue and poor balance.
I don’t know why we keep thinking Pogba can turn out to be the CM we hoped he would be after 4 years. He is not that. Bruno has really cooled off. Ronaldo is a one dimensional player and we don’t play to his strengths. That said, with this talent pool there is NO WAY we could be this incoherent on offence and defence. That’s down to Ole.
Leicester fans?Ok come clean. Who are the 1% who thought it would be absolutely hysterical to pick Maguire as MOTM?
I was too scared to follow the game, just checked the result, oh dear
These hairshirts that the Top Reds wear, must be itching delightfully at the moment.
I might get slated for this but best case scenario for us is that Ole goes.
Fergie gets a bit of fire in his belly and manages till the end of the season so we can get a new manager. He's got phelan to do all the work anyways. I'd even be happy for him to manage from the stand at this point
I know we should let go of fergie but with Ronaldo back I just feel like this stint will tarnish his amazing career somewhat.
We need to see good football and quickly... It's looking to be the worst season so far with this midfield.
Ah well. Sorry guys.
Fergie gets a bit of fire in his belly and manages till the end of the season so we can get a new manager. He's got phelan to do all the work anyways. I'd even be happy for him to manage from the stand at this point
I know we should let go of fergie but with Ronaldo back I just feel like this stint will tarnish his amazing career somewhat.
We need to see good football and quickly... It's looking to be the worst season so far with this midfield.
Ah well. Sorry guys.
Arsenal, yes the piss poor Arsenal who’ve been smacked around this season are 1 point behind with a win on Monday.
Having managed to get back in then do that is criminal. The fourth was always gonna happen after that. Not sure what the issue is but next week will be watching from behind the sofa!
What? You can’t be serious .
It’s been blindingly obvious for a long time that Ole is not up to it.
Hope the board takes some initiative for once and closes the book on Ole as manager. Not a question of whether he can compete for the biggest trophies, it’s utterly embarrassing week in week out now.
Ruined my night for sure. The 3rd goal pissed me off.
I decided to go go for a mid afternoon nap rather than watch the game. I am glad I made that decision.
But it's an unbalanced squad with no defensive midfield. Would Usain Bolt win the 100 metres with one foot, no matter how good the rest of him is?
Not sure if McT could have started today but he should have played with Matic. Pogba offers no balance whatsoever. Yes he is superman for France but if he can’t be the same for United let him go. TBF he was the least of our problems today. My point is that yes we could use a world class DM but even without that we were poor. Piss poor. I have been covering my ears for a long time now to the criticism of Ole but these past 3 games have really demonstrated that our coaching is inferior. In game management is poor.
Maguire needed to come off at half time. McT should have come on for Pogba earlier because they were just killing us on the counter. Ronaldo was quiet b/c we just don’t have the wing/full back crosses (AWB as usual useless on this front).
Put on my Spotify 70s playlist on random play. It jumps to Joy Division's New Dawn Fades. Must be something about today.
Terrible result of course, but more importantly yet another very poor performance.
Ronaldo will bounce back as he always does, hope he delays his form till Ole gets sacked.
Shaw needs to partner up with his usual direct wingers like Rashford, James etc, pacey partners give Shaw enough space. As for Sancho, they both can't create spaces for each other in tight spaces, it's painful to watch.
Greenwood and AWB work just fine, Sancho has to warm the bench for a while or try to play with AWB who is more direct than Luke.
Almost every team except Leeds overruns our midfield, midfielders have to be on the constant move in modern football in order to prevent getting pressed. This is the reason I like Fred a lot, However Carrick and Ole don't get it or they trying to reinvent 20s football by instructing Pogba to get the ball on his foot in space, he can't get this luxury to play magically with Matic or McTominay sitting deep.
Bruno plays very strangely since he gets free role pass, he needs to push forward every time when Shaw or AWB pushes forward, that's how you create space for Pogba and others. Stacking with them when the team pushes forward is like giving the opposite team time to press and get the ball back in dangerous situations.
I've been feeling like Ole had been scared to try modern football, last time we played some modern football is under Moyes with Mata and Kagawa creating spaces in his last few games.
Last season, Maguire has been in insane form. He gets the ball and pushes forward, it gives enough time to midfielders to find spaces. With Matic or someone sitting deep might be giving a defensive advantage, But it's a chicken move. If you like to talk about attacking DNA, then you have to get your players to move, not sitting in a deep.
Shaw needs to partner up with his usual direct wingers like Rashford, James etc, pacey partners give Shaw enough space. As for Sancho, they both can't create spaces for each other in tight spaces, it's painful to watch.
Greenwood and AWB work just fine, Sancho has to warm the bench for a while or try to play with AWB who is more direct than Luke.
Almost every team except Leeds overruns our midfield, midfielders have to be on the constant move in modern football in order to prevent getting pressed. This is the reason I like Fred a lot, However Carrick and Ole don't get it or they trying to reinvent 20s football by instructing Pogba to get the ball on his foot in space, he can't get this luxury to play magically with Matic or McTominay sitting deep.
Bruno plays very strangely since he gets free role pass, he needs to push forward every time when Shaw or AWB pushes forward, that's how you create space for Pogba and others. Stacking with them when the team pushes forward is like giving the opposite team time to press and get the ball back in dangerous situations.
I've been feeling like Ole had been scared to try modern football, last time we played some modern football is under Moyes with Mata and Kagawa creating spaces in his last few games.
Last season, Maguire has been in insane form. He gets the ball and pushes forward, it gives enough time to midfielders to find spaces. With Matic or someone sitting deep might be giving a defensive advantage, But it's a chicken move. If you like to talk about attacking DNA, then you have to get your players to move, not sitting in a deep.
We will go on getting results like this until the board finally wakes up to the fact that some of us knew on day one: Ole is not a good enough manager for Manchester United. Early on I was worried that there was no Plan B but actually there is not Plan A. he does not have the nous or experience or tactical knowledge required. As I said on the day that he got the job full-time (earlier than was promised), all that would happen is somewhere down the line we'd blame a legend as a player - some of us knew that if you fail at cardiff, you are unlikely to succeed at Old Trafford. The guys he's got working with him are barely more experienced than people here!
I would not be at all surprised if we were as good as out of the CL by Christmas unless a change is made now.
I would not be at all surprised if we were as good as out of the CL by Christmas unless a change is made now.
Wondering if Ole has the balls to drop Ronny (though he was starved of service today). Cavani looks the better option for our style of play as he presses like a demon from the front. Then really try our 70m buy on the RW as that’s what he was bought for with Rashford on the left. At this point Ole must try something new. Bruno looks like he can use a rest too.
I should report you for purposefully harming your kid taking him to watch that.
Bruno looks to be the biggest victim of Ronaldo coming in so far.
We seem to have tweaked the tactics to have Bruno quite high up, which seems to have left the centre midfield even more exposed than before.
If we are knocked out of the champs league he should be sacked on the spot.
Dreading next Sunday.
We used to press teams and attack on the break at pace, what has happened?
Backfired playing Maguire, but doesn’t explain his lack of a brain. Horror show.
We used to press teams and attack on the break at pace, what has happened?
Backfired playing Maguire, but doesn’t explain his lack of a brain. Horror show.
He'll certainly have to use his man management skills to ensure that Ronaldo knows it's "resting" him and "keeping him fresh", as you don't drop Ronaldo easily.
He won't fancy sitting out the european games either due to his record in it.
I think we might well rest him for Wednesday though, as we'll have to be a lot better v Liverpool to not take a beating.
Has he come out and said how well we played yet?
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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17%
Mason Greenwood
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7%
Nemanja Matic
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5%
Marcus Rashford
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4%
Victor Lindelof
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 269 ratings.
Score Predictions
140,60,56
- Man Utd win
- Leicester win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 27% Leicester 1:2 Man Utd
- 14% Leicester 2:1 Man Utd
- 14% Leicester 1:1 Man Utd
- 10% Leicester 1:3 Man Utd
- 7% Leicester 2:2 Man Utd
- 5% Leicester 0:2 Man Utd
- 4% Leicester 2:0 Man Utd
- 3% Leicester 0:1 Man Utd
- 3% Leicester 2:3 Man Utd
- 3% Leicester 0:3 Man Utd
- 2% Leicester 3:1 Man Utd
- 2% Leicester 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Leicester 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 0:4 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Leicester 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Leicester 3:2 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Leicester
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 48% 52%
- Shots
- 22 18
- Shots on Target
- 11 6
- Corners
- 4 3
- Fouls
- 5 17
Referee
Craig Pawson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Jesse Lingard
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
