Pogba's contract offer

If this news is true and ETH sees him as part of his rebuild, then we have hired the wrong manager.

There is no way Pogba would make it into Pep or Klopps teams. Pep immediately sideline Yaya Toure when he took over at city and he was a much better player than Pogba.

I don't believe ETH sees him as part of his side however as he likes to play fast, high tempo football where the whole team works hard, Pogba is not suited to any of that. The reason Pogba excels at international football is because it is a much slower game and suits his style of play. Same reason why he also did so well at Juve.
 
DRJosh said:
I’m curious. Does a player ever lose their marketability by virtue of being a poor performer on the pitch?

Pogba’s commercial stock has continued to rise despite his horrendous performances. Seems marketability and on field performances are mutually exclusive
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I believe this is the core principle Manchester United is run on.
 
Rocknrolla69er said:
My logic which is usually right, says no way he gets a contract at United.

You can hold me to that.
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Logically if the club keeps making illogical decisions (which they have for years) then speaking logically they will continue to make illogical decisions like giving Pogba a new contract. For the record I think that he will be let go/sign with someone else at the end of the season but i'm only about 80% confident in that.
 
I just pray this guy never plays for us again.It’s taken a while but it seems the majority of our fanbase has finally realised what a lot of us have been saying for over three years. To think there were people on here claiming he was our ‘most efficient player’ just a month or so ago:lol:…efficient at being bang average in this league.
 
Tyrion said:
Honestly Pogba has been so sh!te that an average midfielder could do what he's done for us for half the money.
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I can agree with that. Wijnaldum was elevated to a high football level and did it for Liverpool, United with their worldwide scouting range should be more than capable of finding someone.

Tbh It should be done when Scholes retired and we had a chance to fight for seriously great midfielders like Kroos or Gundogan. We're still waiting to this day for a killer midfield with a tooth.
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
Hahahhahaa I like it how you winding up people on here ...keep going
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I genuinely think that we can go places with the right coaching. And someone who can get Pogba firing on all cylinders will see the benefit. Losing our best players will not take us in the right direction. Unless Ten Hag wants him gone, in which case i would support that decision. But i don't think that's the case.
 
hobbers said:
Anyone with even a fraction of a brain would want Pogba gone at this point.
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Someone doesn't agree with me so therefore they are stupid.

Edit: i would support him leaving if that's what the manager wants. I would also support him staying if that's what the manager wants.
 
He’s one of our worst ever signings.
 
DRJosh said:
I’m curious. Does a player ever lose their marketability by virtue of being a poor performer on the pitch?

Pogba’s commercial stock has continued to rise despite his horrendous performances. Seems marketability and on field performances are mutually exclusive
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Hello Edward.
 
Fridge chutney said:
I genuinely think that we can go places with the right coaching. And someone who can get Pogba firing on all cylinders will see the benefit. Losing our best players will not take us in the right direction. Unless Ten Hag wants him gone, in which case i would support that decision. But i don't think that's the case.
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I totally disagree.

Pogba is certainly a quality player, extremely talented, if we had a quality coach in 2016, who might have built a quality squad where Pogba can be a part of such quality squad then we would have seen the best of Pogba probably, but now I think it's best if Pogba leaves and we get a hungry new player.
 
I'd worry about ETHs judgment if he wants Pogba to stay. Manchester United and the PL right now are a bad fit for Pogba
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I'd worry about ETHs judgment if he wants Pogba to stay. Manchester United and the PL right now are a bad fit for Pogba
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Manchester United has been a bad fit but I don't think that it extends to the PL. My worry is about his injuries, I don't know if he is worth it.
 
He's already missed 27 games this season.

On what planet does this guy deserve a bigger contract? For my own sanity, I have to give Arnold, Murtough & co some credit that they're not this thick.
 
JPRouve said:
Manchester United has been a bad fit but I don't think that it extends to the PL. My worry is about his injuries, I don't know if he is worth it.
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I think it extends to PL. He would do well in a less physical league and where game is slower. Maybe his injuries also may come down.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
I think it extends to PL. He would do well in a less physical league and where game is slower. Maybe his injuries also may come down.
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It doesn't, whether people want rewrite history or not Pogba has been one of our best performers since 2016, if the frankly stupid idea that it extends to the PL then all our players aren't adapted to the PL which is again stupid idea. Outside of injuries which include broken bones and torn ligaments, Pogba has been "victim" of the same issue that the rest of the team faced, a lack of coherence when it comes to team building and a lack of quality when it comes to coaching.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think Rangnick's influence has waned along with the results. He said when he came into the role he would have a say on who the next manager was and he may even recommend himself for another year (or until Enrique is available I believe), and he also said he would move upstairs for 2 years as a consultant.

Now he's saying he's just being kept in the loop regarding managerial interviews and the consultancy role is becoming a "we'll call you if we've got any questions outside of the first team" gig instead.

I don't think it's any coincidence that it's come to this after how shit this season has gone.
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It's not a coincidence but it's a bit stupid to lose faith in someone's ability to advise you on how to run the club in a proper manner based on their inability to get a tune of a bunch of overpaid primadonnas in your first team.
 
If Pogba has the tactical knowledge and motivation I belive he would fit in very well to the role Gravenberch has in his current Ajax setup. One of the CMs in a 4-2-3-1 that moves up the pitch next to the 10 when in position.
 
Facing a player revolt :lol:

I don't want him to stay but I am also okay in him staying back but the players revolting because Pogba got a new contract is as laughable as it can get. Bunch of overrated overpaid duds.
 
diarm said:
If Ten Hag really does want him, and has a plan to use him properly, I wouldn't be completely against it so long as he re-signed on a wage equal to or lower than his current one.

Agreeing to a higher wage in spite of his performances over the last few years would be a terrible message to send, and would suggest the club has learned nothing at all from the last decade.

I was also really looking forward to having Raiola removed from the club once and for all. It would need to be a great bloody plan to make keeping him around worth it.
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I really hope Ten Hag isnt influenced by all the "what ifs" surrounding Pogba, its been "what if" for 5 years with Pogba being tried in different positions, in different formations, with different players, with different players in different positions, with different players in different positions in different formations, left, right, forward, centre, rear, the only position and area where he hasnt been tried is in goal! Nothing tried by 3 different managers has worked....but there are still those who say its not Pogbas fault! Give me strength! No more bloody "what ifs" concerning Paul bloody Pogba, you cannot fit a square peg into a round hole! Let him go and be done with it!
 
el3mel said:
No way he renews his contract if we end up 6th or 7th in the league. He'll be 30 years old next season, doubt he'll want to spend more time playing in Europe Conference League with Man United.
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Play in Europa with United for 450k pw? Or play in CL with PSG for 250k pw?
 
We will never get a penny for him whether it’s this summer or when a new contract ends. It’s done. The club lost this one. All it can do is not continue to lose more money and stink the dressing room out over it.
 
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Play in Europa with United for 450k pw? Or play in CL with PSG for 250k pw?
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At this stage of his career I doubt what he needs is just more money. He has ton of it. He'll want more trophies under his name. He's 30. He can make even more money before retiring by playing in MLS or whatever.
 
el3mel said:
At this stage of his career I doubt what he needs is just more money. He has ton of it. He'll want more trophies under his name. He's 30. He can make even more money before retiring by playing in MLS or whatever.
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I hope you are right.
 
Judge Red said:
We will never get a penny for him whether it’s this summer or when a new contract ends. It’s done. The club lost this one. All it can do is not continue to lose more money and stink the dressing room out over it.
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You are correct that we won't get any transfer monies back on him when he leaves in June......however, commercially for the club, I am sure it is not seen like this. Directly and more importantly, indirectly, Pogba will have had a significant commerical earning value that will have been attributed to him over the last 5 years.

From a pure footballing view - he has been a costly disappointment, however, through our owers and commercial department's eyes, they will have seen it differently. It's exactly the same again with Ronaldo.

As fans, we are looking at performance - passes, goals, effort, and commitment from our players as metrics to measure them on.......elsewhere in the club they are looking for Likes, tweets, advertising, merchandising, and sponsorship as priority metrics.

If you wonder why we gave Bruno a new contract now? It certainly wasn't because of the fan's metrics! A bit of security commercially.

If Ronaldo also leaves with Pogba this summer then our commercial department will require a new shiny toy for next season.......
 
Withnail said:
It's not a coincidence but it's a bit stupid to lose faith in someone's ability to advise you on how to run the club in a proper manner based on their inability to get a tune of a bunch of overpaid primadonnas in your first team.
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For sure, but it speaks volumes about the way we’re run. If Rangnick had them playing brilliant football they’d have made him permanent. We’re run so short sighted that details of his consultancy role are pretty much dependant on how his managerial stint goes, otherwise there would be a plan in place for what he’s actually going to do in the summer already.
 
crossy1686 said:
For sure, but it speaks volumes about the way we’re run. If Rangnick had them playing brilliant football they’d have made him permanent. We’re run so short sighted that details of his consultancy role are pretty much dependant on how his managerial stint goes, otherwise there would be a plan in place for what he’s actually going to do in the summer already.
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Yeah and that's the dumbest bit. If he'd done well as interim they'd be more likely to take his advice at DOF level which is nuts.

While I was hoping the next manager will sort us out this just proves stupidity still reigns supreme at OT so ETH has his work cut out for him.
 
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Hopefully PSG takes him so RM is not ruined by Pogba and his agent.
 
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