At least Cavani showed some passion whenever he played.
Pogba should pay back Utd some of his wages, nevermind getting a new contract.
To be fair, Pogba at his best is simply unplayable. The only problem is, this doesn’t really happen often enough, maybe less than few games a season.Even at his best, he's a player who dwells on the ball and slows down attacks, same as Maguire. Maybe its a luxury of watching Scholes while growing up but its a pet peeve of mine whenever a player stands still with his foot on top of the ball.
Looks like he and Cavani play from the same book.
"Fein injury....get three weeks in Dubai...laugh at the fans"
IF Utd are dumb enough to give him a new contract....I will try and be done with Utd.
Surely they can't be that stupid? Can they???
Some of you guys are genuinely just hateful. Pogba has played every match he's been fit for 6 seasons. Cavani literally has been sitting on the beach enjoying his holidays. Yet you give him some credit for running a bit last season......
I am not sure why it is not so obvious that Pogba cannot be compared to several other players because of the expectation.I am not hateful, not at all. It's just the fact that Pogba was regarded as a high caliber player, was transferred being the most expensive player at the time(it's still a large transfer fee even for today's standards), had one of the biggest salaries and played for us during his prime years, yet he never showed any passion, desire or ambition, jogging in midfield all the time. It is about expectation. I expected Pogba to carry us, to be a leader, a captain, the best midfielder in the PL, why not.
Cavani on the other hand was brought for free, was past his prime and I never expected him to be a star player for us, just a backup and used whenever is needed.
Hopefully club is in contact with him and is his choice not the boards
nah this is a situation where i think he should have final say. If you want a transfer committee that is one thing, but this is a player here at the club. If ETH doesnt think he fits what he is doing then what the hell is the point of bringing him on if you saddle him with players he says no to. This isnt a "long-term issue", this is a singular moment issue of a player about to be out of contract that can easily be remedied. I can understand the logic of a transfer debate where ETH might prefer one guy, but someone higher up can say well player x that you want will cost 80 percent of our budget and we wont have money to help you elsewhere. Players y and z are both similar in style to player x and can easily be fit into budget, what do you (ETH) think about those.He should be involved, yes. As in - he should be consulted on whether he thinks Pogba will be a useful asset or not.
But he absolutely should not be making the decision as such.
If we are to move forward it is essential that we establish an authority on the football side that is not the "manager" (as we have traditionally called it) - but someone who is above the "manager" and whose job it is to make sure that we follow a sustainable long-term plan with regard to player recruitment and contracts.
He should be involved, yes. As in - he should be consulted on whether he thinks Pogba will be a useful asset or not.
But he absolutely should not be making the decision as such.
If we are to move forward it is essential that we establish an authority on the football side that is not the "manager" (as we have traditionally called it) - but someone who is above the "manager" and whose job it is to make sure that we follow a sustainable long-term plan with regard to player recruitment and contracts.
Don't worry, RM is smart enough to know he's a crock and not worth being their highest earner.
It'll be PSG.
If ETH doesnt think he fits what he is doing then what the hell is the point of bringing him on if you saddle him with players he says no to.
yeah that would fit more into wanting player x but instead player y or z type.Ah, yes - that's different.
I wasn't actually considering that scenario.
To be clear - he should be consulted and if he says that he doesn't want Pogba, then Pogba obviously should NOT get a new contract.
I was thinking more along the lines of him wanting Pogba - in which case, the long-term consequences of giving him a new contract should be left to someone other than him.
It really depends on who is above the manager and how qualified that person(or group) really is.
yeah that would fit more into wanting player x but instead player y or z type.
We do have a recruitment policy. Sign popular players to boost the commercial appeal of the club, and give everyone a new contract to protect their value. Rinse and repeat until we find the next FergusonWe should have a recruitment policy - in short. And that policy should be the club's - not the manager's.
Starting from an overall - call it what you will - "philosophy" (what profile of player do we go for, based on how we want to play, but also on the player's personal/individual traits, etc.). The manager or head coach has to work within the framework of that "philosophy" - but he should obviously have a say with regard to what particular players (who do fit the profile) we go for.
Then you go to work assessing who is attainable, who is a good fit within the wage structure - and all the rest of it.
Hardly a mountain of offers landing his way is there? Barely any speculation other than PSG.
He's been found out. Clubs have finally wised up to the fact he's such a ridiculously inconsistent and flawed footballer.
I'm sorry do the offers for him go through yourself first?
Is he prone to injury or just prone to not being bothered?Worried. His form has been terrible for years, he’s injury prone this is him at his peak.
We do have a recruitment policy. Sign popular players to boost the commercial appeal of the club, and give everyone a new contract to protect their value. Rinse and repeat until we find the next Ferguson
If ETH is going to have any chance of succeeding he has to off load the dross; 3 managers have tried to shoe horn Pogba into the team and all failed; you cant make a silk purse out of a cows ear.Ah, yes - that's different.
I wasn't actually considering that scenario.
To be clear - he should be consulted and if he says that he doesn't want Pogba, then Pogba obviously should NOT get a new contract.
I was thinking more along the lines of him wanting Pogba - in which case, the long-term consequences of giving him a new contract should be left to someone other than him.
If ETH is going to have any chance of succeeding he has to off load the dross; 3 managers have tried to shoe horn Pogba into the team and all failed; you cant make a silk purse out of a cows ear.
There are too many stupid posts in these threads to interact with; but I would say a genuine concern with him as a player is his fitness, mobility and agility have all really plummeted, like really plummeted.I must be one of the few people in this forum who actually wants him to stay. We have much, much bigger needs and problems in the squad before we sort out the Pogba issue.
Yeah he hasn't always been great, but not a single player in this team has. If he goes we will be left with Fred, Scott and VDB as our only midfield options (I dont count Bruno) and that is just not good enough. As a priority we need a DM, a RB and a RW. If Pogba goes we will also need a CM.
Resign him, set an affordable sell on price 40m ish for next summer and sell him then when we can get a propper replacement in.
He doesn't want to be here!I must be one of the few people in this forum who actually wants him to stay. We have much, much bigger needs and problems in the squad before we sort out the Pogba issue.
Yeah he hasn't always been great, but not a single player in this team has. If he goes we will be left with Fred, Scott and VDB as our only midfield options (I dont count Bruno) and that is just not good enough. As a priority we need a DM, a RB and a RW. If Pogba goes we will also need a CM.
Resign him, set an affordable sell on price 40m ish for next summer and sell him then when we can get a propper replacement in.
Hazard missed 4 games due to injury in the season prior to signing for RM.Just like they were smart with Hazard?
He doesn't want to be here!
From one commercial club to another, great. I love Pogba, but he's not what's needed at PSG. Tchouameni or Fofana on the other hand...No way on earth he stays at United. Ralf isn’t keen and I’m pretty sure he’s going to get a good say in how it goes now.
Can’t wait to see him, his inflated ego and entourage gone from our club. Good luck PSG (where he will do well in that league).
Wijnaldum is a good example that it's more than being a good player, you need to find the right manager and teammates too, at PSG he's been completely a non entity. Man Utd will but its new players but ETH cannot create a good football structure then we'll be disappointed ultimatelyI can agree with that. Wijnaldum was elevated to a high football level and did it for Liverpool, United with their worldwide scouting range should be more than capable of finding someone.
Tbh It should be done when Scholes retired and we had a chance to fight for seriously great midfielders like Kroos or Gundogan. We're still waiting to this day for a killer midfield with a tooth.
I must be one of the few people in this forum who actually wants him to stay. We have much, much bigger needs and problems in the squad before we sort out the Pogba issue.
Yeah he hasn't always been great, but not a single player in this team has. If he goes we will be left with Fred, Scott and VDB as our only midfield options (I dont count Bruno) and that is just not good enough. As a priority we need a DM, a RB and a RW. If Pogba goes we will also need a CM.
Resign him, set an affordable sell on price 40m ish for next summer and sell him then when we can get a propper replacement in.
I bet you can't name as many five for each season he's been at OT. I said at the time he resigned that I didn't understand the hype and I haven't changed my mind. The number of times he was bullied by midfielders from mid-table teams seemed staggering to me...Its not about the talent, but his attitude and i am 100% convinced that hes one of the biggest, if not the biggest contributor to the toxic attitude in the dressing room.
Also, despite his talent his performances for us overall are usually complete shit with about 5 good ones each season. Just feck him off and lets be done with this stupid circus
Thats like comparing an apple to an orange.Just like they were smart with Hazard?
Sadly, bothIs he prone to injury or just prone to not being bothered?
