And he would choose Barcelona over Real. Barca aren't in for him either.
Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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That's just facesious. Last season aside Fabregas has been superb. We really wanted him just three years ago. He lifted the PL just a year ago and was probably the best player in the squad after Hazard. Fact is I've named four midfielders everyone agrees is superior than Pogba and typically ye zone in on the one that ye don't agree with.
It's not true... The spanish, Madrid friendly, media completely made it up. The doctor who was supposedly going to do the medical even came out on twitter to say it was bollocks.
I can. And I am. Interesting I'm the only one to name midfielders who I consider superior to Pogba. All the rest of ye must think he's the best in the world?
Zz has just said he isn't for sale?
Have they all shown their desire to play for United?
Modric is the only one who is clearly better. Veratti, Busquets, Vidal and probably Iniesta (who isn't very consistent these days) in the same level, Kroos probably slightly worse, same about Koke.
Have we shown a desire to spend 120m on them?
TBF I'm sure most people are too busy with the comedic relief some of the claims you've made in this thread has brought us. No, I don't think he's the best in the world. Certainly don't think Cesc fecking Fabregas is better than him though.
Pretty sure Fabregas has only been club captain at Arsenal too, during which he won nothing of worth. Certainly wasn't captain at Barcelona during the season he won the league with them, like Rory suggests.
Really? Wow. So Modric is the best CM in the world?
Wasn't suggesting he was captain at Barca but can see how my list reads like that. I meant he was a captain/leader. He's still a super player.
Yes, easily.
Kante, Fabregas, and De Bruyne are not better.
I would agree Modric, Iniesta and possibly Vidal are currently better but all are 30 or over. They won't be better than Pogba in 2 years time. Pogba only just turned 23 let's remember.
Kroos and Veratti are really the only comparable midfielders in the same age bracket as Pogba that would justify a huge fee to secure their signings. PSG would never sell Veratti and we couldn't bid high enough to force them, Kroos isn't going to be sold by Real anytime soon and if he does leave i can only see him returning to Bayern. With that in mind Pogba is our best option, and would improve our team immensely.
Yeah Fabregas is definitely better than Pogba, get a grip FFS.
I think he is.
Well three years ago I'd have agreed with you on Fabregas!
As for the four... at 32 I'm not sure Iniesta would be a better signing than Pogba, much as he may still be the better player right now. Similar can be said for Modric to a lesser degree, and even Vidal is 29 already.
I'd take Kroos, though even in his case I've not been as gutted as I expected that we missed out on him before - the level he's playing at is a level I'd be optimistic Pogba will be at by his age if not earlier.
on what planet?same old story, different day !!
Am genuinely surprised at that view. I'd put Kroos ahead of him.
We went in for cesc once under moyes, didn't get him, and now Jose wants Pogba. Discussion over.
Lets just stick to Pogba
Lets just stick to Pogba
@Rory 7 of course there's players who are currently better than Pogba, but the guy is only 23 and showing a crazy amount of potential. Some even say he's world class already. If you want immediate, elite talent then we could go for the likes of Modric, Rakitic, Iniesta but, besides getting no where near them, we'd not get anywhere near as many years out of them. Verratti would be a good alternative but I honestly think Pogba is more what we need right now.
There's the argument that Pogba's the sort of player to move round all the time with that cnut of an agent, but I think we'll keep him for a few years at least based on how much we're paying for him.
There's the argument that Pogba's the sort of player to move round all the time with that cnut of an agent, but I think we'll keep him for a few years at least based on how much we're paying for him.
Yes because a player has to be 100% committed to us and we need to be their first choice or they're not welcome here. Guess we should get rid of De Gea then too.
DDG was hell bent on leaving last season.
Had Jose not come this Summer, DDG would definitely have left us this season. No Galactico class player wanted to join us under LVG. We had 2 such players - 1 left and the other did his best to leave, but Madrid messed up the Fax.
Now that Jose is here, DDG is 100% committed to MUFC.
Before Bale/Ronaldo signed for Madrid, they expressed their desire and love for Madrid.
Has Pogba done this, with regards to MUFC?
If this was a £20M transfer, I wouldn't be fussed if the player was half hearted. But for a World Record, like Bale and Ronaldo before him, I'd expect something to come from Pogba.
I've heard absolutely nothing from Pogba (I want to join MUFC). Not one thing.
And what's more, if he did feck off to Madrid in his prime, we'd make a big profit on him anyway (as long as we keep on top of his contract!).
That said, I'm still not convinced he's not going to Madrid this summer.
I'd agree with that too. Kroos would be my preferred option I think. The question was who is ahead of Pogba today. I honestly think a fit in-form Cesc still is ahead of him. That's doesn't mean I'd sign him of course.
Thanks for the heads-up BUT, why would a doctor, that was mentioned by name, miraculously be writing on Twitter, generating column inches about something that had not been previously planned? Was there not enough exposure about the transfer in today's press for Raiola's liking?
And what happens now::
There will be a medical?
With that Doc?
There will be no medical?
Who cares?
I still stand by the rest of my post … it's not as if I wrote it because of that newspaper report today!
Fair enough, looking back that was indeed the question!
Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line
He never said that at all. He said Pogba's a Juve player and we must respect Juve so he can't say anything anymore on the player.
Pogba hasn't said anything - about anyone. I prefer that personally then the I'm staying..or I'm a slave bullshit. It's not what people say for show. It's what people say behind the scenes that matters. Not everyone is the same. You cannot expect him to come out and say what you want. If it fell through, he'd probably spend a season getting abused by a section who wouldn't forgive him.
I agree. Fergie sought out players who ticked precisely those "desire" and "commitment" boxes as part of his recruitment strategy - and it paid off greatly for him. The principle is still sound, but it's becoming harder to stick to it.
Perez likes these big deals to stretch out so that it gets a lot of media attention, but he wouldn't just let it all be United talk for the last month if we were really in for the player. That's the number one reason why I think we're not in for him.
Again with the finances..? What finances are you lot talking about all the time. 15-20 mil € here or there as if Madrid was broke. You are talking about the club that topped the Delotte Football Money leauge (biggest revenue in football) for the eleventh consecutive year (generating net profit at the end of the fiscal year). I can't believe this is even being discussed. It's literally identical to Real Madrid fans claiming "United can't be in for the player because they have no money". Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Our squad can not accommodate what we already have (there's already one 80 mil € player with huge wages on the bench), so no other galacticos are coming as long as he is here. If James is not leaving, Pogba is not coming. That's the end of it.
Pogba has already spoken highly of United and of Manchester in the past. He's currently a Juventus player so what do you expect him to say about us regarding a possible transfer? It'd be incredibly unprofessional to talk about United whilst under contract with another club. If/when he signs for us then he will give a statement expressing his love for United and then you can all put your insecurities to one side and sleep easy.
Good heavens but some muppets are slow. That's yesterday's news and was proven to be false already.
Somebody else tweeted him to ask if it was true is why.
He replied by saying that he had no idea what any of it was about. I get the impression he was just a different doctor who shared the same name, actually.
So Real Madrid do want him then. Said in an earlier post i suspected Marca were reporting no interest (at Madrids request) in order to force Pogba's hand.
Thanks guys for the replies.
I understand that, however my general point would be this: YOU are the ones who want the transfer, not Juve. The player is already Juve's, you want to buy him. So of course Juve can dictate the terms and the price.
For example, if they want to receive 100m € for Pogba, yet 20% is always going to go to Raiola, United will have to pay 120m€ so that Juve get their price. It's as easy as this. YOU are the ones who should end up paying for this, that's just logical.
I just have to laugh at the tone of indignation and moral outrage some posters have towards Juve for having the insolence to demand a certain price for their player. As if they had an obligation to sell their player to you at an price you find acceptable.
After the developments of the last 3 years, everyone knows you're equally desperate and filthy rich. Not a good basis for negotiating.
You also haven't heard "I want to join real Madrid."