Well that wouldn’t be the lineup in the OP, with Tuanzebe for Lingard, in a 3-5-2, with Pogba in a free role, would it?
I was looking forward to seeing how three centre backs, Martial, Rashford, James and a free-roaming Pogba all fit into one team.
Our strongest XI
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Well that wouldn’t be the lineup in the OP, with Tuanzebe for Lingard, in a 3-5-2, with Pogba in a free role, would it?
I was looking forward to seeing how three centre backs, Martial, Rashford, James and a free-roaming Pogba all fit into one team.
I think that'd work just fine in a 3-5-2.. Pogba is free, Rashford and Martial upfront together.
And James...
--------------------------De Gea-----------------------
-------------Lindelöf--Maguire---Tuanzebe---
---AWB---------------------------------------Shaw-----
----------------Fred----------------McT----------------
------------------------Pogba-------------------------
-----------------Rashy----------Martial------------------
What would you do here to get James in? Take Fred out drop Pogba there and have 3 upfront ?
--------------------------De Gea---------------------
-------------Lindelöf--Maguire---Tuanzebe----------
---AWB---------------------------------------Shaw---
------------------McTominay--------------------------
-------James-------------------Pogba-----------------
------------------------Rashy----------Martial--------
The reality is that with a back three, we would be playing a very high line with Taunzebe using his pace to cover Maguire and Lindelof and Maguire picking up the distribution role of a defensive midfield.
We shouldn't need 3 in the midfield with that setup and it wouldn't limit Pogba's ability to roam wherever he likes to find space and make things happen.
I think it would work well against the bus parkers, but top 6 could get messy. Herrera would be so pivotal right now, Mct & Herrera anchoring behind Pogba would be fantastic, what a feck up that was letting him go
DDG
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McT - Fred
Pogba
Rashford - Martial - James
Just don't see how people can leave James out. He's our biggest threat right now.AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McT - Fred
Pogba
Rashford - Martial - James
Wan Bissaka isn't good enough going forward to be an effective wing-back, Dalot would be much better at RWB. Wan Bissaka would probably be more effective as the RCB.
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka - Maguire - Lindelof
Dalot - McTominay - Fred - James
Pogba
Rashford - Martial
Wan-Bissaka - Maguire - Lindelof
Dalot - McTominay - Fred - James
Pogba
Rashford - Martial
Maybe Tuanzebe in for Lindelöf and that's our best XI and formation with players available for sure..
Significant improvement in both defensive stability and attack. Think we'd be marginal favorites against most teams apart from the top 2, at home at least.
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I have two problems with this 11 Charlenefan.
- Dan James is our most effective player right now so I'd leave him exactly where he operates best,on the left. Rashford is currently not operating fully wherever he plays so let him take the right. He'll be just as effective or ineffective there.
- Lingard! Why Lingard? Constantly proven to be lacking in most areas other than workrate. Taking Lingard out and putting Pogba up in an attacking MF role at least gives us some quality feeding Rashford, Martial and James.
Give James the free role behind the 2 strikers and have pogba in the midfield two flanked by the wing backs
De Gea
Tuanzabe Maguire Lindelof
AWB Mctominay Pogba Shaw
James
Rashford Martial
Then Pogba’s not in a free role.
Another poster said they would replace Lingard with Tuanzebe in the XI in the OP, play a 3-5-2 and give Pogba a free role. I asked what that would look like and you replied by giving me a lineup without those stipulations?
Again, then it’s no free role for Pogba.
If not this
--------------------------De Gea-----------------------
-------------Lindelöf--Maguire---Tuanzebe---
---AWB---------------------------------------Shaw-----
----------------Fred----------------McT----------------
------------------------Pogba-------------------------
-----------------Rashy----------Martial------------------
Then why not 4-3-3
AWB-------Tuanzebe-------Maguire--------Shaw---
-----------------------McT-------------------------
-------------Fred--------------Pogba--------------------
---James------------Martial---------------Rashford
Herrera instead of Fred would have been great, such a feck up that was..
Pogba doesnt need a free role
I agree but I'd like to see him play there for the season and if not aim for a world class young striker. Martial could be alot better upfront with a good number 10 behind him.
Seven changes? Will never find our best eleven that way
If we are going to keep playing with 3 at the back
-----------------DDG-----------------
---Lindelof---Maguire---Tuanzebe--
AWB-----Pogba----Mctom----Shaw
----James-----Martial----Rashford--
4231 has not worked well at all. Pogba is not as good at DM and neither are Fred, Pereira or Mctom. Matic is useless. Another problem is the lack of a decent #10 in.
-----------------DDG-----------------
---Lindelof---Maguire---Tuanzebe--
AWB-----Pogba----Mctom----Shaw
----James-----Martial----Rashford--
4231 has not worked well at all. Pogba is not as good at DM and neither are Fred, Pereira or Mctom. Matic is useless. Another problem is the lack of a decent #10 in.
Shaw
Martial
Pogba
Rashford
AWB
And I have one problem with this post Volumizza - THATS NOT THE POINT OF THIS THREAD!!!
See this guy gets it
I think one of the positive thing about our season now is that Ole knows 95% of his best starting XI. Unlike our previous managers.
DDG, Maguire, Lindelof, Bissaka, Shaw, McTomminay, Pogba, James, Rashford, Martial.
With Tuanzebe has good chance to challenge Lindelof's spot and rotation in between Pereira, Lingard or may be Fred. Greenwood is also looking for a chance in starting XI spot.
DDG, Maguire, Lindelof, Bissaka, Shaw, McTomminay, Pogba, James, Rashford, Martial.
With Tuanzebe has good chance to challenge Lindelof's spot and rotation in between Pereira, Lingard or may be Fred. Greenwood is also looking for a chance in starting XI spot.
Hey Charlenefan, I wasn’t meaning to be funny, just saying I didn’t agree with your strongest XI.
I certainly didn’t mean to get capitaled
Go back to 4141
Martial
James Pogba Pereira Rashford
McTominay
Shaw Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea
Romero Tuanzebe Young Fred Lingard Dalot Greenwood
James Pogba Pereira Rashford
McTominay
Shaw Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea
Romero Tuanzebe Young Fred Lingard Dalot Greenwood
Not replacing Herrera and Lukaku is why we are in this state now.I think it would work well against the bus parkers, but top 6 could get messy. Herrera would be so pivotal right now, Mct & Herrera anchoring behind Pogba would be fantastic, what a feck up that was letting him go
I'll wait and see but i'm not expecting much improvement even with those players back. We've been in relegation form since the PSG game and our best players will have played a lot of those matches. Solskjaer's supporters are using it as an excuse to defend him but I don't think he can turn it around. There's no pattern or style of play.
In terms of the actual 11 I dont think it's bad at all. Quality and balanced back 4, pace and goal threat in attack, creativity in midfield with Pogba and decent work rate throughout. It has a bit of a weird balance through midfield, but other than that it's good enough that with the right training and tactics, we could be a good side. Key phrase is that though.
--------Martial Rashford
James Fred Pogba McTominay AWB
-----Tuanzebe Maguire Smalling
------------------De Gea
James Fred Pogba McTominay AWB
-----Tuanzebe Maguire Smalling
------------------De Gea
How is Fred in most of these, he has been atrocious this season.
Rashford shouldn’t be in a strongest 11
DeGea
AWB, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw
McT, Fred
Greenwood, Pogba, James
Martial
DeGea
AWB, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw
McT, Fred
Greenwood, Pogba, James
Martial
‐------------------De Gea-------------------
AWB--Lindelof---Maguire--Shaw
---‐----------------Axel-‐--------------------
------------Scott-------Pogba-----------
James------------------------Rashford
------------------Martial --‐-----------------
AWB--Lindelof---Maguire--Shaw
---‐----------------Axel-‐--------------------
------------Scott-------Pogba-----------
James------------------------Rashford
------------------Martial --‐-----------------
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Maguire Lindelof Williams
McTominay Tuanzebe
Rashford Pogba James
Martial
Wan-Bissaka Maguire Lindelof Williams
McTominay Tuanzebe
Rashford Pogba James
Martial
What i would like to see is this:
De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McTominay
Fred -------------- Pogba
James ------------------------------- Rashford
Martial
The 4-3-3 is a balanced lineup. Lots of movement. You have players playing in their natural roles. The only one we struggle to fill is the cdm with McTominay, but he's so limited on the ball and possesses the physical qualities anyway, that you would think he would be fine with coaching.
The 4-2-2-2 variation is a personal favourite. McTominay & Fred as a dm pairing, Martial & Rashford as a front pairing. James as a wide midfielder stretching the play & Pogba playing as a lm/am hybrid.
This frees Pogba to be able to affect matches directly whilst minimising his weaknesses. Allows him to link up with Rashford or Martial dropping into the LW position too which would be extremely dangerous now with James offering the threat in behind on the other side. (Why don't we attack like this anymore?)
Also, Pogba playing on the side gives us a possible solution to being pressed with the direct ball from our cb's to him.
Our methods of attacking could easily apply to the 4-3-3 also, so we would still play the same way regardless.
De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McTominay
Fred -------------- Pogba
James ------------------------------- Rashford
Martial
Alternative:De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McTominay - Fred
James --------------- Pogba
Martial - Rashford
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McTominay - Fred
James --------------- Pogba
Martial - Rashford
The 4-2-2-2 variation is a personal favourite. McTominay & Fred as a dm pairing, Martial & Rashford as a front pairing. James as a wide midfielder stretching the play & Pogba playing as a lm/am hybrid.
This frees Pogba to be able to affect matches directly whilst minimising his weaknesses. Allows him to link up with Rashford or Martial dropping into the LW position too which would be extremely dangerous now with James offering the threat in behind on the other side. (Why don't we attack like this anymore?)
Also, Pogba playing on the side gives us a possible solution to being pressed with the direct ball from our cb's to him.
Our methods of attacking could easily apply to the 4-3-3 also, so we would still play the same way regardless.
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At some point I would like to see this lineup, especially against team that sits deep against us:
AWB I feel would be the perfect cover for Williams, and Tuanzebe for Shaw when covering opposition breaks. Both are unassuming and has the pace, tackling and tactical nouse to be the ball playing CBs to complement Maguire when team sits deep against us. All 3 CB are comfortable on the ball and can start our attack without breaking a sweat.
James is the conundrum in this lineup. I couldn’t find the best #10 to complement R&M, but I feel when we’re on the front foot James would stretch to the right while Rashford to the left. While when pressing from the front, James, Martial & Rashford speed would give defenders nightmare to play from the back.
We could also try Perreira or Lingard at #10.
De Gea
AWB - Maguire - Tuanzebe
Williams——————————————Shaw
Pogba - McTominay
James
Martial - Rashford
I believe in Shaw (at his pre-contract/ leg break best) & Williams, we have the most cavalier and naturally gifted wing-backs that can provide some overlapping width the way Robertson / TAA gave Liverpool.AWB - Maguire - Tuanzebe
Williams——————————————Shaw
Pogba - McTominay
James
Martial - Rashford
AWB I feel would be the perfect cover for Williams, and Tuanzebe for Shaw when covering opposition breaks. Both are unassuming and has the pace, tackling and tactical nouse to be the ball playing CBs to complement Maguire when team sits deep against us. All 3 CB are comfortable on the ball and can start our attack without breaking a sweat.
James is the conundrum in this lineup. I couldn’t find the best #10 to complement R&M, but I feel when we’re on the front foot James would stretch to the right while Rashford to the left. While when pressing from the front, James, Martial & Rashford speed would give defenders nightmare to play from the back.
We could also try Perreira or Lingard at #10.
---------------de gea
Awb-lindelof-Maguire-Williams
------------------axel
----mctominay--pogba
---------------martial
---------james--rashford
Allow martial freedom to drift into either side of the wings or the number 9 position
Awb-lindelof-Maguire-Williams
------------------axel
----mctominay--pogba
---------------martial
---------james--rashford
Allow martial freedom to drift into either side of the wings or the number 9 position
----------------------------------De Gea
-----------------------Maguire Axel Lindelof
------------------AWB-----------------------------Shaw
------------------------Mctominay------Pogba
------------------James---------------------------Rashford
------‐--------------------Martial/Greenwood
This is the team I would play if everyone was fit, I'd rotate Martial and Greenwood. A quality right winger and a top Striker would transform that team.
Also if we had another quality midfielder I'd move away from a back 5. Three TOP players required IMO.
-----------------------Maguire Axel Lindelof
------------------AWB-----------------------------Shaw
------------------------Mctominay------Pogba
------------------James---------------------------Rashford
------‐--------------------Martial/Greenwood
This is the team I would play if everyone was fit, I'd rotate Martial and Greenwood. A quality right winger and a top Striker would transform that team.
Also if we had another quality midfielder I'd move away from a back 5. Three TOP players required IMO.
Width tends to come from the wing backs nowadays - city and liverpool do it. Its how mane and salah and sterling and mahrez/silva/sane get so many goals - they are playing as forwards and getting central not hugging the touchline to provide width. Not many teams playing with flat back four and wingers anymore
deGea
AWB Maguire Tuanzebe
Dalot McTominay Pogba Shaw
James Martial Rashford
AWB Maguire Tuanzebe
Dalot McTominay Pogba Shaw
James Martial Rashford
Well it includes de Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, McTominay, James, Rashford, Martial and probably Pereira. Does Pogba still play for us?
De Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Young
Pogba McTominay Fred
James Martial Rashford
I've felt this for awhile now. We should be looking for the LB we've needed for awhile. 5 years of Shaw proves he hasn't got anything near what's required. Look for two midfielders to complete the squad and the tall striker we need. AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Young
Pogba McTominay Fred
James Martial Rashford
Jimenez at Wolves would do nicely. He could start up front or come off the bench if we need a striker with aerial presence.