Next PM | #NoMoBoJo | Still hanging around like a bad smell

The Boy said:
My only hope is she is so bad, and she will be, that the Tory party implodes a bit like 1997, but I worry about how much irreparable damage she might do before that.

the ripping up of the EU laws she has already proposed (for the Tory base and not necessarily because she or anyone with a modicum of sense can actually believe is a good thing) and all the environmental protections that will go with that are a good example.
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Absolutely a concern yes. On the other hand it depends how she defines "EU-derived laws". REACH legislation for example has already been replaced by "UK REACH" which is basically a pointless duplication so far, and if it ever stops being a pointless duplicate then it will double the workload for anyone who wants to export chemicals or other products to the EU. It has already increased complication by creating confusion in how things should be certified but could nonetheless be argued to be either an "EU-derived law" or a "British law" depending on what bullshit you want to sell.
 
rpitroda said:
I think you’re all missing the point. When a viable candidate comes up who better fits your agenda, then you definitely should vote for them. But until then, I genuinely don’t understand the logic because the reality is someone has to govern after the next general election. Which means by not voting, or not voting Labour, you’re de facto strengthening conservative chances. Unless you think Starmer’s Labour is as bad or worse than a conservative government, I’m not sure that approach makes sense.
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A party has to gain and deserve a vote. They don't just get it by default.

I'd rather vote Green at the moment. Even if it is part of a longer term slow growth of their vote share that contributes towards changing the narrative for future elections.

That's mainly due to the lack of faith I have in Keir Starmer offering any significant alternative. Maybe if he hadn't broken all of his leadership pledges and had any serious policies my mind would be changed. How can he be trusted any more than any other lying politician? Why should voters be gaslighted into voting for his party?

NB. I hope he launches some serious policies before the next GE which I could support
 
I don't live in Scotland (although some friends do) so I am finding it hard to assess whether Labour is making any headway whatsoever against the SNP. From what I am told by friends North of the Border Labour generally is keeping quiet about the chances of indy2, and seems to be leaving any running on 'Remaining in the Union' to the Tories.

If this is true then Labour need to get up there and start hitting the pavement, for without a decent number of Scottish seats at Westminster, they have no chance, whether its Truss or Sunak they are up against, in forming a realistic working majority government in Westminster at the next GE
 
nimic said:
That's an attack? Look at this dumb bitch, she supports human rights lawyers?
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You don't want some secret elitist old men in suits dictating how you live your life, do you?! We're all smart enough to decide how we should exist without rules being forced on us...
 
UK - "let's elect a Churchill cosplayer, what's the worst that could happen?"

UK, 3 years later - "Well this has been a total shitshow, what do we do now?

Thatcher cosplayer, anyone?"
 
All of this blue on blue sniping is quite helpful to labour I think

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/dorries-mocks-sunak-over-expensive-075929992.html

A whole summer of the candidates taking chunks out of each other leaving Labour free to cut up and edit the best jibes and throw it back out on social media.

And at the end of it, they either get to run against a billionaire tax dodger or Liz Truss... win-win.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Liz Truss is useless and will lose the next general election.
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Pexbo said:
Truss leading them into an election will be hilarious.

As will Truss trying to unite the various factions of the party.

Sit back and enjoy.
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Sassy Colin said:
Correct, but the members will pick Truss and lose the next election.
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hobbers said:
Truss will be a disasterclass in front of the electorate everywhere.
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I don’t particularly like Starmer but what could convince anyone that Truss is a more capable PM?
 
It's just shite baiting. There are people with feck all money that rock around in full Gucci tracksuits.
 
When they were standing there just then they looked like waxworks from madame tussauds :lol:.
 
Does her head just not shake the same way as other people?
 
Not sure his constant interrupting is doing Sunak much good here.
 
hobbers said:
What the hell is going on with Truss, she's moving her head like a malfunctioning robot.
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I was wondering that too, she's so odd.

Rishi going for the kill but not sure he'll come off well here. Then again I'm not a Tory.
 
How is Truss polling as favourite in whatever metrics the Tories are using?! :lol:

Offering very little.
 
Doracle said:
No, it’s not a good look. He’s much better at speaking than she is though.
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Indeed; seems counterproductive though to risk coming across as bullying a woman when he's comfortably the better showman without that. But then again, he's playing to the Conservative base, so...
Acole9 said:
He's clearly been told to do that because Truss is a terrible public speaker and it'll throw her off.
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Yeah it's clearly a tactic since he's been at it from the start - wonder if his team are seeing this as a positive the way he's coming across.
 
Truss, speaking, sounds out of her depth.
 
Given where the polls are, this feels like it doesn't matter or than to serve as an exhibition for how fecked the UK will be under Truss.
 
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