Next PM | #NoMoBoJo | Still hanging around like a bad smell
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Find it hearbreaking a Nigerian could become PM and she's a complete nutter. The thought she could be PM is frightening. She is only interested in unleashing Yank style culture war. She's a disgrace.
Even as an ex remainder.
Have to say that having watched the 2 TV debates, none of them stand out as having real leadership qualities.
Because of his experience, Sunak would be the most likely in my view.
Not that I think he is any good. But to me, he seems the safest option with Truss maybe a close 2nd.
The rest lack any real experience even though they may come over ok in the debates.
And none would have Boris in their team. So at least a small blessing.
Sunak has already pissed of just about every faction of Tory MPs one way or another. He doesn’t have the charisma, gravitas or guile to keep them together.
Sunak may be the best in competence of a bad lot but I think Truss suits their leanings more.
Johnson was incompetent but has the personality and bravado to be able to bullsh!t his way through for a certain amount of time.
Without Boris they won't be able to bullsh!t their way and they have no personality.
I think it will be between those two but they'll give it to the 'nice' white lady who's prepared to do and say anything to get the job.
Depends who would be in her cabinet really
They'll all be avid Brexiters, no doubt. Whoever they are, you can imagine her making a fool of herself, especially on the international stage.
Nadine and Jacob would be back in the fold under her presumably.
Truss is a useful idiot. Any MP with an agenda will be looking at her and thinking “I‘ll easily twist her arm and get what I want”.
Just to be clear.
You are not Mrs Sunak incognito?
Because every post I have read of yours is about Sunak.
Nothing wrong with that by the way. But I just thought I would check.
I too get the strong impression that this is bad news for the Nasty Party.
Fiddling while Rome burns is pretty close to the truth.
But all totally self inflicted.
They're all bad but Sunak is the only person who actually recognizes we need to battle inflation first before considering tax cuts.
Sunak has a lot of flaws but they aren't remotely as bad as the competition he faces.
Penny is a joke and Liz Truss wants to reshape our central bank to follow Japan. Tom hasnt got the pedigree and falls short in expertese as does Kemi. The latter cant stop talking about how she used to clean toilets and work at mcdonalds. Saying that, Kemi and Tom are revolutionary compared to Truss and Penny. Go figure.
What is to imagine. She has done that already hasn't she.
On a wider international stage she's probably much less well known for her stupidity but if she's PM , the world's eyes will be upon her. Boris is a figure of ridicule worldwide.
This is why any half decent Labour leader should be wiping the floor with them both policy wise and in debates. They’re so easy to attack no matter who wins the leadership contest.
It'll be Sunak and I think we should all hope it is as he's the best out of a bad bunch.
It'll be high interest rates and low growth for a while. He'll champion that he's turned inflation around and then they'll run an election campaign based on Labour risking more inflation.
It'll be high interest rates and low growth for a while. He'll champion that he's turned inflation around and then they'll run an election campaign based on Labour risking more inflation.
Hiding in a fridge?
From what I understand, high inflation could be an issue for some time to come. With low growth even longer.
Sunak or anyone else will not be able to bring down inflation on his own because it is down to global problems with supply.
The British public will demand more assistance to deal with the rampant cost of living.
And that would mean pumping more money into the economy thus feeding more inflation. As will the inevitable wage growth.
I think Truss would probably be the best outcome in terms of long term prospects of keeping the loonies out of power. Realistically almost the whole Tory party are extremists at this point in one way or another so bring them out into the open under a complete plonker and let them keep shooting themselves in the foot.
The problem with Sunak would be that despite being quite a fool on the economic front, his only real selling point, he has enough of a track record in finance and as chancellor to hoodwink everybody for quite a long time I fear.
The only one who actually seems vaguely principled and genuinely horrified at the open sewer of Boris' government is Tugendhat, but I'm pretty sure a lot of his principles are primarily based on easily disprovable, damaging beliefs about the economy and society that we really need to move away from (benefit fieves, trickle down economics, light touch regulation except for when I want to control you etc). As such I'll be very happy for him not to get the top job and fool the "magic money tree" munchers once again.
The problem with Sunak would be that despite being quite a fool on the economic front, his only real selling point, he has enough of a track record in finance and as chancellor to hoodwink everybody for quite a long time I fear.
The only one who actually seems vaguely principled and genuinely horrified at the open sewer of Boris' government is Tugendhat, but I'm pretty sure a lot of his principles are primarily based on easily disprovable, damaging beliefs about the economy and society that we really need to move away from (benefit fieves, trickle down economics, light touch regulation except for when I want to control you etc). As such I'll be very happy for him not to get the top job and fool the "magic money tree" munchers once again.
Tugendhat will be out today
I’d rather keep Boris than have one of that lot. A general election needs to be called ASAP.
I would rather not have Boris the criminal thanks.
I just watched the debate earlier. That was genuinely bizarre. She seemed to regard Japan's low inflation as a cracking policy success and thing to emulate, clearly oblivious to the economy being in a 30-year deflationary vortex, by far the highest debt to GDP in the developed world and myriad deep-rooted structural economic and social problems.
She probably really admires Japan's ability to shirk any responsibility around taking in and caring for refugees too.
I was incidentally asked to have a look at the latest TV debate for a small Italian news outlet. Knowing one thing or two about idiots pretending to be statemen and spouting c*ap, I have to say that imho the only person remotely aware of the magnitude of the issues and the task ahead is Sunak.
The South Park analogy could not be more appropriate for Sunak and Truss.
The core Tory voters went off him after his comments on lockdown. He stripped the NHS down to its bare bones so the poor pandemic response was down to him.
Badenoch and Tugendhat are representative of where the Tory party is going. Either restablishing one-nation conservativism or push to the far-right. Going out now will give them time to rearticulate their stance.
Christ knows where these right wing maniacs are taking this country. We have been warned.
No, brexit means re-brexit!
This time you're leaving the planet. Last time you just left the real world.
I get the horrible impression they know Sunak is going to win and this is all an orchestration to make him seem moderate to the electorate. The issue is those tactics keep back firing elsewhere and actually empowering drift to the extreme right.
They sent out a press release referring to themselves as infiltrators? Perfectly normal, non-fascist behaviour.