I wonder what the reaction in the media and on here will be if we fail to beat Stoke at the weekend. It's acceptable that we are going through a bad patch and are a team in transition, but we should be beating Stoke at home. Anybody should.
Moyes So Far!
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Does anyone else feel reassured by the things that Moyes is increasingly getting right? That is to say, he appears to be learning. Most obviously he's started playing the right players out wide and in defence. If he was still sticking with Rio and Young I'd be deeply concerned, but as it is he's showing that he's coming to terms with the squad.
None of us know how long he will be given since we aren't the ones making the decisions.
Yes, that's exactly what a lot of people think but it doesnt sound as catchy does it? Some posters have a little bit more in common with sports journos than they would probably care to admit, paring everything down to simplified generalities that look quite clever on first read but upon closer inspection reveal very little about reality.
I'd fecking kidnap Moyes and send him over to Greenland and beg Klopp to take over if I were Glazers and Klopp became available.
Solskjaer over Moyes? Christ, I've heard it all now.
Expect what you want.... The reality is, that after 26 years, no one was going to walk into Utd and have a seamless transition, unless the team is full of world class players in their mid 20's. Add to that that Moyes himself has had the same job for 10 years, so even if we did have a squad full of world beaters, there would be an adjustment period for the manager.
If top 4 is looking doubtful come February I could see the yanks panicing and sacking him I really could. No champions league football doesn't feature in their business plan I'm sure.
Ole and Gary Neville...I would be confident.
But seriously, we have no choice but to stick by Moyes for a couple of seasons at least.
But seriously, we have no choice but to stick by Moyes for a couple of seasons at least.
What makes Ole a better manager than Moyes? Completely unproven and hasn't exactly pulled up trees with Molde.
Let me know when you have anything of value to contribute with. I won't be holding my breath.
Yeah apart from like winning the league for the first time in Molde's history.
Saliph, for someone as arrogant as you, it's quite funny to see a post like this being made by you.:
Oh, the irony. Some of the stuff you have said is quite ridiculous.
Football's not your thing, Saliph. Stick to the CE
Yep two titles in a row with a club that hadn't won the title before is piss easy.
Still baffles me why we never went for someone like Guardiola (would have been available when ferguson decided to retire), Klopp or Joachim Low. Such a massive gamble with Moyes being thrust into an unfamiliar environment not only having to prove he can cut it to the footballing world but more importantly to the players that have essentially proved it all before time and time again. I get the early impression it was a big mistake that could have been handled better.
Guardiola likes to inherit a team, Low is hardly going to quit the Germany job a year before the WC and Klopp seems pretty happy where he is.
I wonder how much Guardiola knew about Fergie retiring.
indeed. Ole and Gary Neville would be perfect.
Guardiola took over a talented Barcelona team in disarray, he'd have no issue trying his luck at United and it'd have been a challenge he'd probably endorse but we were late to that party. Actually both him and Klopp are likely to leave Germany in 2016 so that could be our chance.
To be fair he has developed the Bayern team further, quite a feat when you consider they had won virtually everything last year.
Was it ever confirmed that the two of them met in New York?
I'm afraid, the Caf might need to shut down for a couple days. Otherwise it could lose half of its members due to banning.
Still waiting. Still not holding my breath.
Great, more sheep.
I believe that Guardiola was probably first choice, when he was unattainable we moved to Moyes, I think Joses antics meant he would never be given the chance and I think because Moyes had done his 10 year apprentiship the board thought it more fair to give it to a younger british manager than someone like Klopp.
Going with the best manager who could guarantee short/ medium term success would probably have been a better shout as we are never going to repeat what ferguson has done.
Going with the best manager who could guarantee short/ medium term success would probably have been a better shout as we are never going to repeat what ferguson has done.
Keep running your mouth like that and the CE will be the only place you're posting.
I don't know, mate. I remember they were rumours.
Poor Saliph. All it is with you is insults. When you can construct a better post in this thread that portrays you have an open mind, then I might consider replying to it, but with the ridiculous post you came up with, there really is no response for it, other than
Brilliant, was going to say the same thing.
Wow, me calling you out on your ridiculous religious beliefs really hurt your feelings didn't it.
Yes, what a brilliant post indeed..
Wow, me calling you out on your ridiculous religious beliefs really hurt your feelings didn't it.
Yes, what a brilliant post indeed..
What does religion have to do with this? I don't recall debating with you. I'm talking about this:
You blatantly forget that Vidic was amazing in 10/11 and the second half of 12/13. You also forget that Evra was very good last season. You also forget Ferdinand was excellent in 10/11, 11/12, and 12/13. And you also forget that Carrick was arguably the best midfielder in the league in 11/12 and 12/13.
Sure you don't.
No, I've not forgotten that. Bit too harsh on Carrick perhaps, but he's starting to age too.
That first line sums you and your arrogance up perfectly.
Yeah, they're not at the level they were in 2008, despite three of them having excellent seasons since 2008. What ridiculous logic.
I agree with the point on our big players not gelling and I think that's one of the reason we end up relying on individual brilliance so often to win matches.
When was the last time Rooney really produced a clear understanding with his strike partner, for example? Maybe Saha?
When was the last time Rooney really produced a clear understanding with his strike partner, for example? Maybe Saha?
To be honest there was/is part of me that thinks that while we did the rigth thing in not going for a big name mercenary (JM), the appealing alternative was to go in for a United great. Ole certainly seems to be leading the line at the moment.
Either that or a Bruce - Keane - Robson - Strachan - Hughes - Ince team effort!
People actually think Ole would be a better candidate?
Molde are 5th in the Norweign league ffs, won 11 of 27 games.
Molde are 5th in the Norweign league ffs, won 11 of 27 games.
Arrogance is underrated.
The logic is sound, I have no idea what you're talking about. Of course they can have good seasons (certainly wouldn't call them excellent, with the possible exception of Carrick) without being as good as they were. But in any case that's not the point I was making, which was that right now they're far off from where they were, and none of them have been adequately replaced (nor has Scholes for that matter). And they're not getting any younger.
You think they're all at the level that they were in 08? Now that is ridiculous. Ferdinand was probably the best defender in the world that season.
Would love to see these two at the club in some capacity, especially Gary Neville as some sort of assistant manager/head coach role as he seems to know his football very very well. Ole should leave Molde soon and test himself out at a higher level.
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