Modern Warfare 2

Well its the type of game that makes the difference Biscuit.....Mouse and keyboard just works great for shooters.

I've played Cod 4 on the 360. ps3 and PC and believe me the quality of online players is best on the PC. The point and click of a mouse just feels more natural to most people than a mini joystick for aiming.

Try as i might, i'm just terrible with a controller....Its all personal preference though
 
Surely thats it. The reason you prefer the keyboard and mouse set up, is because thats what you were brought up on. Gamers of this generation, generally, will be accustomed to the controller and probably will be terrible with a mouse and keyboard.
 
1871_Biscuit said:
Surely thats it. The reason you prefer the keyboard and mouse set up, is because thats what you were brought up on. Gamers of this generation, generally, will be accustomed to the controller and probably will be terrible with a mouse and keyboard.
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Once you give both a proper try I can almost guarantee you'd stick to the Keyboard + mouse setup. I grew up a console gamer and only really indulged into PC gaming in the last 5 years, and I will now always swap joystick for M+K.

And if him honest the whole "PCs are designed for Word processing, and consoles for games" is a bit off. Nowadays most PCs are fitted with powerful processors and graphics cards which are clearly intended for more than word processing, whereas consoles today are essentially now a home entertainment system. Its all a matter of preference (and budget).
 
I didn't say PC's were designed for word processing and consoles for games. Clearly modern PC's are capable of much much more than word processing. My point was that Controllers we designed specifically for gaming. The Keyboard and mouse were designed for typing and for GUI.

EDIT: I suppose my first post was a bit ambiguous. I was talking about the controllers specifically.
 
Mouse is a lot easier to use that those little things on the console controller. It's point and click, how can people ever play war games on those stupid consoles I'll never now.

It's completely unnatural.
 
1871_Biscuit said:
I didn't say PC's were designed for word processing and consoles for games. Clearly modern PC's are capable of much much more than word processing. My point was that Controllers we designed specifically for gaming. The Keyboard and mouse were designed for typing and for GUI.

EDIT: I suppose my first post was a bit ambiguous. I was talking about the controllers specifically.
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Even the controller has its limitation. While certain games such as Beat'em'ups and Driving games are clearly intended to be played with a controller, you can only really play strategy games and other complex games (such as certain MMOS) by using a keyboard; the controller just doesnt have enough buttons for keybinding certain games.

Oh and just so you know controllers can be used for PC gaming now; ive been playing Street fighter IV on the PC with my 360 controller :)
 
CoD4's singleplayer was unimpressive. It's far too linear and poorly paced to be considered a classic.

Similarly the multiplayer was repetitive and quite poorly balanced. After a few months playing (and getting to the quarter finals on one of the national ladders here) the clan I'm in gave up on playing it seriously (this is compared to the BF2 experience, which some of us are still playing 4 years after it's launch). I/some mates occasionally take it for a spin, but only to annoy people using the grenade launcher.

I really have low expectations for this game.

Also Keyboard + Mouse >> Gamepad as a method of control for shooters, objectively speaking. Studies have shown that when you take two peak players, one using a control pad and the other KB + M, the keyboard and mouse dominates every time.
 
RedKaos said:
Once you give both a proper try I can almost guarantee you'd stick to the Keyboard + mouse setup. I grew up a console gamer and only really indulged into PC gaming in the last 5 years, and I will now always swap joystick for M+K.
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I was always an advocate for PC gaming being better than console, until I got my 360. The matter of a joystick controller being used for movement is much better than a keyboard in my opinion as the joystick relies on certain pressure for certain movement speed in the vast majority of games. With a keyboard you press down a direction to move, and you're either moving or you're not - the only variant in speed being the pressing down of another button simoultaneously or whatnot.

Another preference of mine in favour of joypad gaming in relation to FPS games is that it feels so much more real, particularly regarding the Xbox360. To shoot, you literally have to pull a trigger, whereas in most PC shooters you just click down a mouse which doesn't feel right, and isn't as definitive a movement.
 
WeasteDevil said:
They might call them triggers, but triggers are an on-off thing in general, it's not like a power drill where the harder you press it the quicker it goes.
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Incorrect tbh. They aren't an on/off thing, they rely on pressure too. Makes it brilliant for racing games amongst other things where you can alter your acceleration by pressing harder or softer.
 
and keyboard + mouse >>> console controllers.

cant even fecking shoot properly with those shite controls.
 
AlwynP said:
Incorrect tbh. They aren't an on/off thing, they rely on pressure too. Makes it brilliant for racing games amongst other things where you can alter your acceleration by pressing harder or softer.
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An accelerator peddle isn't a gun trigger. Are you saying that most automatic guns load their bullets at a different speed depending up the amount of pressure placed upon the trigger? So if I apply a slight amount of pressure, one will pop out every 2 seconds, yet if I pull it all of the way they come out at 20 per second?
 
WeasteDevil said:
An accelerator peddle isn't a gun trigger. Are you saying that most automatic guns load their bullets at a different speed depending up the amount of pressure placed upon the trigger? So if I apply a slight amount of pressure, one will pop out every 2 seconds, yet if I pull it all of the way they come out at 20 per second?
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I clearly wasn't saying that, as we would have read, I was saying that they were not an on/off thing. Back to my earlier point, I just think it's more satisfying having the hand + finger positioning of one of those pads with a trigger, rather than a mouse.
 
If a console controller gives anything, it's more realism and weight to the whole thing. Hold up a stick or whatever as if you were holding a gun, and you'll see that it does not map to the mouse control paradigm. You also shouldn't be able to spin on a sixpence either, but that's a different matter.
 
AlwynP said:
I clearly wasn't saying that, as we would have read, I was saying that they were not an on/off thing. Back to my earlier point, I just think it's more satisfying having the hand + finger positioning of one of those pads with a trigger, rather than a mouse.
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OK, so you need to have a bit of pressure before it becomes on and off? Do gaming mice not do this?
 
duffer said:
True, but 42 inch plasma and comfy sofa >>>>>>>>>> 19 inch pc monitor and upright folding chair.
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thats where an hdmi cable comes into play.

so in my case:

46" sony + keybaord + mouse + comfy sofa >>>>>>>>>>> 42 inch plasma and comfy sofa.

though i usually play on my 20" hd monitor
 
WeasteDevil said:
OK, so you need to have a bit of pressure before it becomes on and off? Do gaming mice not do this?
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I was talking about the stages of on, rather than the transition between on and off.
 
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