Television Lost: Season 5

wait I just realised this is the season 5 thread...why was this bumped?

Oh and Livvie, "Two players, two sides, one is light, one is dark."

Two players: Fake Locke & Jack/Jacob
Two sides: Fake Locke,ben,others etc and the other side being jack,richard,sawyer,losties etc
Light side: jack or jacob
Dark side: fake locke

the interesting part is which side will widmore choose ? surely him and ben cant be on the same side (assuming ben remains with fake locke)
 
Yes but you realise they didnt know what would happen in the latter seasons at that stage right? So its all extremely coincidental.
 
both of us have 314 posts in here...as i said nothing is coincidental in lost ;)
 
you sound like jack and claim everything to be a coincidence whilst im deluded locke :D
 
i rate this thread better than the new one.

can't we rename this thread to "The Official Lost Thread" ?
 
no that wasn't my agenda!

this is a massive thread and i thought it would be best if it was continued rather than left to die a slow death :rolleyes:
 
and on another note 318

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Yes but you realise they didnt know what would happen in the latter seasons at that stage right? So its all extremely coincidental.

They always knew how it would end, they just didn't know when. I believe they originally planned for 3/4 seasons but the network wanted it longer. Hence the speech from Locke about light and dark when playing backgammon in the pilot.
 
They always knew how it would end, they just didn't know when. I believe they originally planned for 3/4 seasons but the network wanted it longer. Hence the speech from Locke about light and dark when playing backgammon in the pilot.

They didnt know how it would end in Season 1 or 2 they may have had an idea but alot of things have changed, for example Jack not being killed in the pilot.
 
They knew the basic outline of the main plot. They didn't know who would carry out the plot as obviously cast members change and thigs have to be altered. But the main plot itself of there being two sides fighting for control of the island has been in place since the first episode.

Ben was only going to be a bit character to start with until they liked his work, suddenly he becomes the leader of the others and they bulk his character up a bit. Locke was the main man from the start.
 
initially they didn't know.

i think they only figured how to end it in season 3.
 
initially they didn't know.

i think they only figured how to end it in season 3.

They've said themselves several times they knew how it would end and they would have a lot of links to the ending in the first series so people could look back and say "that's what that was about". Adam and Eve and the backgammon game for starters.
 
They've said themselves several times they knew how it would end and they would have a lot of links to the ending in the first series so people could look back and say "that's what that was about". Adam and Eve and the backgammon game for starters.

They are going to be able to link it back to 1, however I think it's more they found ways to tie in the things in Season 1 after they'd made it, not beforehand.
 
I finished watching this a couple of weeks back, loads of things didn't make sense. One I specifically remember which I didn't get was when Daniel died, why is it his mother didn't recognise him when she had already seen him the 1950s??
 
I finished watching this a couple of weeks back, loads of things didn't make sense. One I specifically remember which I didn't get was when Daniel died, why is it his mother didn't recognise him when she had already seen him the 1950s??

Because it had been 20 years and she saw him for like an hour in the 50's

edit: Thinking again, she does recgnise him after she shoots him and as Vida said she shhots him in the back

Edit edit: Wait doesnt she find out hes her son from Jack and Kate and the Journal....hmmm I think a re watch is in order for me :D
 
I finished watching this a couple of weeks back, loads of things didn't make sense. One I specifically remember which I didn't get was when Daniel died, why is it his mother didn't recognise him when she had already seen him the 1950s??

he was shot in the back so his mother couldn't see his face.
 
He never said he was her son in the 50's. So she had no idea that she was killing her son, and as said she shot him from behind. For all she knew it was some crazy guy about to start a killing spree.
 
She shot him from behind and also after seeing his face she did recognize him, I'm sure when she spoke to Jack and Kate in her tent she said he vanished infront of her very eyes after telling them to bury the bomb.
 
Because it had been 20 years and she saw him for like an hour in the 50's

How do you know it, was an hour, weak explanation either way.

he was shot in the back so his mother couldn't see his face.

So, still does not explain why she didn't recognise him. She spoke to him while he lay dying, from what i remember she asked him who he was while having a blank expression of her face.
 
How do you know it, was an hour, weak explanation either way.



So, still still not explain why she didn't recognise. She spoke to him while he lay dying, from what i remember she asked him who he was while having a blank expression of her face.

I said "like" an hour meaning it was a very short amount of time.

Think about it, you see someone for the first time for no more than a day, 20 years later you wont recognise that person would you unless you had his picture.

So far from a weak explanation
 
I said "like" an hour meaning it was a very short amount of time.

Think about it, you see someone for the first time for no more than a day, 20 years later you wont recognise that person would you unless you had his picture.

So far from a weak explanation

You mean the same guy telling you how to deactivate a Atomic bomb, who then vanishes infront of your eyes...seems like he's someone you won't forget.
 
You mean the same guy telling you how to deactivate a Atomic bomb, who then vanishes infront of your eyes...seems like he's someone you won't forget.

You wont forget his existence no, or what they have told you, but over time no matter who it is you forget peoples faces. Simple as that
 


It's more of a "who are you?". I took it as a sign of some form of recognition, as in you look familiar but i can't put my finger on it. Which is how i would be with someone who i only saw for a few hours 20 years ago, even if they had dissapeared infront of my eyes.
 
How do you know it, was an hour, weak explanation either way.



So, still does not explain why she didn't recognise him. She spoke to him while he lay dying, from what i remember she asked him who he was while having a blank expression of her face.

she knew something weird was going on but eventually recognized him.
 
You mean the same guy telling you how to deactivate a Atomic bomb, who then vanishes infront of your eyes...seems like he's someone you won't forget.

:nono:

you wouldn't recognize the face exactly now would you ?

*she shot him in the back
*she knew something was weird when she saw his face
*she ultimately knew who he was after speaking to jack and kate and also after daniel told her that he was her son.
*just to confirm it she recognized her own handwriting on the book.
 
You wont forget his existence no, or what they have told you, but over time no matter who it is you forget peoples faces. Simple as that
This would be relevant if she was much younger where you could put it down to infantile amnesia, but she was about 18 when she first saw him, he would have had a lasting effect on her from the experience and his appearance stayed exactly the same, making it a lot easier to remember him.

:nono:

you wouldn't recognize the face exactly now would you ?

*she shot him in the back
*she knew something was weird when she saw his face
*she ultimately knew who he was after speaking to jack and kate and also after daniel told her that he was her son.
*just to confirm it she recognized her own handwriting on the book.

You don't think her "realising" who he was after all of this, just allowed for the writers too pen in a dramatic conclusion to the episode.
 
This would be relevant if she was much younger where you could put it down to infantile amnesia, but she was about 18 when she first saw him, he would have had a lasting effect on her from the experience and his appearance stayed exactly the same, making it a lot easier to remember him.



You don't think her "realising" who he was after all of this, just allowed for the writers too pen in a dramatic conclusion to the episode.

No matter how old you are you always forget faces after a lonbg period of not seeing them.

As for your second point she only realised after the shooting because it was only after the shooting she saw his face and he said she was his mum
 
An Oceanic Airlines flight featured in the series Lost may crash into Wisteria Lane on Desperate Housewives.

Housewives creator Marc Cherry recently revealed details of an upcoming cliffhanger involving a plane crash in the first half of the current season.

A source has now told E! that the aircraft is likely to end up being a fictional Oceanic Airliner from Lost.

The plot crossover has not yet been finalised, though the insider added that network executives are keen on the idea due to the series of promotional spots with casts from different ABC programmes.

"Everyone loved how well those 'ABC House' promos did last year," they explained. "We're looking at ways to find more fun crossovers between shows, and so the idea came up to have the Desperate Housewives plane be Oceanic."
 
It started off in Lost though...

EDIT: Actually my bad, turns out it was in Executive Decision first, heh. Lost is what made it really popular though.

it was in about 5 shows before Lost, JJ Abrams Alias being one.

It is just a fictional airline that was made for tv