Kanye West is 32

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Surely soon he'll grow out of this rap music thing? I mean most people grew out of it by the time they turned 20 after realising that their choice in music was actually pretty irritable shit :confused:
 
Surely soon he'll grow out of this rap music thing? I mean most people grew out of it by the time they turned 20 after realising that their choice in music was actually pretty irritable shit :confused:

Most people don't even make it into the rap industry before turning 20. Jay -Z is still rapping and he is 39 I believe.
 
Surely soon he'll grow out of this rap music thing? I mean most people grew out of it by the time they turned 20 after realising that their choice in music was actually pretty irritable shit :confused:

Thats your opinion. And of course he's 32, how old did you think he'd be? People usually get recognised commercially in their late 20's, Kanye has been around for a good 8 years.
 
Seriously, how old are all of you? If you're over 20 then it's time to get a life and to let your taste in music mature.​
 
Seriously, how old are all of you? If you're over 20 then it's time to get a life and to let your taste in music mature.​

1. Why are you centering your posts as if you're some sort of mature figure around here?

2. Who the feck are you to dictate what music we enjoy? Last I checked music is a freedom of expression, an art, and it reflects who you are and what kind of environment you grow up in and represent... hip-hop music was a very important part of my upbringing from my babysitter and mother when I was young to my own personal selections since the turn of the decade... If I didn't take a fancy to it, why the hell would I listen to it?

I also am a big fan of classical rock, alternative rock, R&B, soul, and alot of punk rock... what, am I not mature because I happen to listen to hip-hop?

The message ALOT of Kanye's music sends IS growing if you took the time to listen to his catologue rather then be a generalizing prick and start on the WUM train... If you listen to the evolution of his music and sound since College Dropout it's deeper, more personal, and ALOT more MATURE... as piss poor a decision as it was to release a record that featured his less than stellar vocal skills, it was his strongest album to date in terms of a message.

He pays homage to the artists that have given him the chance to be in his position by re-making and sampling their music, because music is nothing without the fathers and mothers of yesteryear... What is wrong with that? Nothing.

Creativity is to the ear of the consumer, not the over-opinioned.
 
Rap music is a bit childish, though.
 
I think your first post was more appropriate Searl!

The OP is a disastrous mix of ignorance and arrogance.
 
Seriously, how old are all of you? If you're over 20 then it's time to get a life and to let your taste in music mature.​

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1. Why are you centering your posts as if you're some sort of mature figure around here?

2. Who the feck are you to dictate what music we enjoy? Last I checked music is a freedom of expression, an art, and it reflects who you are and what kind of environment you grow up in and represent... hip-hop music was a very important part of my upbringing from my babysitter and mother when I was young to my own personal selections since the turn of the decade... If I didn't take a fancy to it, why the hell would I listen to it?

I also am a big fan of classical rock, alternative rock, R&B, soul, and alot of punk rock... what, am I not mature because I happen to listen to hip-hop?

The message ALOT of Kanye's music sends IS growing if you took the time to listen to his catologue rather then be a generalizing prick and start on the WUM train... If you listen to the evolution of his music and sound since College Dropout it's deeper, more personal, and ALOT more MATURE... as piss poor a decision as it was to release a record that featured his less than stellar vocal skills, it was his strongest album to date in terms of a message.

He pays homage to the artists that have given him the chance to be in his position by re-making and sampling their music, because music is nothing without the fathers and mothers of yesteryear... What is wrong with that? Nothing.

Creativity is to the ear of the consumer, not the over-opinioned.

Brilliant post.

But wasted on an ignorant jerk like The Red Flag.
 
Rap music is a bit childish, though.

Rap, mainstream rap, yeah it is.

Kanye to me, and I think to anyone who actually gives a feck, doesn't do "Rap" music... even his most commercial songs (Gold Digger is the one I always talk about) Is SO relevant in society it's genius.
 
:lol:

Deary me.

So you've been in nothing but perfect relationships and grew up in a society where perfect relationships and women are the norm?

If so, my apologies, and maybe you should tell us all where his magical land is, I know I could sure use a woman who I don't have to worry about stabbing me in the back and using me because i'm a nice guy.

Honest to god.
 
So you've been in nothing but perfect relationships and grew up in a society where perfect relationships and women are the norm?

If so, my apologies, and maybe you should tell us all where his magical land is, I know I could sure use a woman who I don't have to worry about stabbing me in the back and using me because i'm a nice guy.

Honest to god.

So anyone who sings about the above is making 'genius' statements on modern society?

Are you talking about stuff like this - would you call this embarrassing shite genius?

 
I guess some people just don't like seeing the truth, even if it's looking at them point blank in the face.​
 
Seriously, how old are all of you? If you're over 20 then it's time to get a life and to let your taste in music mature.​

You know rap music can have great messages and fantastic story telling which anybody can learn from. There are so many great artists in this regard. I really don't even know where to start. Of course you have the stupid songs which can be seen as garbage but in all honesty you have that in all music genres.

What you are doing is actually generalizing the entire genre which is wrong. Even Kanye makes some heart felt songs, you should try out 'never let me down' ,'all falls down' , 'Jesus walks' 'everything I am' 'Roses' 'Family business' just to name a few.

I think you're actually missing out, there are so many great artists, don't be fooled by most of the commercialized bullshit that you see on TV or hear on the radio.
 
Some great points by Searl.

RedFlag, you are a WUM and a poor one at that. Your ignorance about music is stupid, and strangely common.

Hiphop and rap musicians are lyrically more talented than most of the artists you probably listen to, an ingenius mixture of metaphors and similies bringing peoples ideas and experiences to life. Compared to things like Champagne Supernova...hiphop music makes more sense, so if you're talking about maturity, lets actually talk about music that has a message, instead of random lyrics thrown together.
 
Some complete and utter twats in this thread.

If you don't understand, or get some certain types of music, simply don't comment on it. Or, better still, go out and educate yourself on it and learn more. Don't make ignorant, sweeping remarks that only make you look like a complete and utter prick.
 
Some complete and utter twats in this thread.

If you don't understand, or get some certain types of music, simply don't comment on it. Or, better still, go out and educate yourself on it and learn more. Don't make ignorant, sweeping remarks that only make you look like a complete and utter prick.

I very much doubt you'll still be listening to rap music in 10 years time, Sam.​
 
And what do you call mature music

Jazz.

You will require a full beard and a least 3 years pipe smoking experience to even
begin to understand the complexity of John Coltrane.
 
Some complete and utter twats in this thread.

If you don't understand, or get some certain types of music, simply don't comment on it. Or, better still, go out and educate yourself on it and learn more. Don't make ignorant, sweeping remarks that only make you look like a complete and utter prick.

That's a bit of a spastic statement. Just because someone doesn't like something it doesn't mean they don't understand it. On the contrary, it's precisely because I do understand it that I know what a load of old cock it is.
 
Im not a fan of Kanye. And to be honest i normally listen to rock/punk/instrumental stuff but i've been really diggin MF Doom and Aesop Rock recently. Thats some fantastic hip hop, its not all about bitches and bling.
 
Why do people care what other people think about their music? I can see the point of a nice, structured discussion about rap, but you certainly won't be getting that from Red Flag here. So why waste your time?

I love rap music. And what other people think about it, well, I couldn't give a shit. And happy belated birthday, Kanye.
 
Why do you think is a load of old crock?

Cock, not crock.

I think that video I posted says it all actually - he can't sing in tune or in time. And the lyrics are a load of hackneyed shite.

And before people point out he's a rapper not a singer, I've seen even more disastrous videos of him rapping.

Anyway, he's the one that decided to sing in public so I'm entitled to criticise it.

Basically, if someone's got nothing to say lyrically, can't sing in tune or in time and talks complete nonsense when rapping, what do they actually offer as a musician? And then when you consider the hundreds of millions he's earnt from this shite...

He's just another example of dross being dressed up as something special and being outrageously over-hyped by the media and record company.

Anyone who thinks they're into it must be seriously lacking in the clue department. It's shite.
 
Surely soon he'll grow out of this rap music thing? I mean most people grew out of it by the time they turned 20 after realising that their choice in music was actually pretty irritable shit :confused:

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do us a favour shuddup
 
I'm obviously very immature for my age.

I like Kanye despite the fact that he likes fish dicks.