How would the players and fans react tomorrow if the board backs Ole?

I don't think anyone that watched that as a United fan would be happy but I also know that I would MUCH rather be part of a fanbase that continued to support a club legend as opposed to mobbing his car. I don't think that many still believe in their heart of hearts that Ole is the man to take the club forward but I am also proud that our fans retain their humanity and stay loyal. It doesn't mean supporting his continued employment. It means staying classy.
I'm not saying mug his car, but the bolded is a load of shite. He's on 10m+ salary on year basis and would need 30m+ to sack him considering the appalling qualities he has as a manager and the fans should be loyal and continue to clap at our performances?

Posing for selfies after you are stuffed 5-0 at home to your rivals says it all - both on Ole and on those fans.
 
Just to say that I never said anything about foreign fans being an issue at all. The issue I have is with people slagging off how fans attending the match act when they're not there themselves. Congrats, never used the ignore function before but you're well worth busting my cherry for.

Foreign fans by definition are harder to find at the grounds. It is implicit.

I'll ignore you too. No great loss.
 
It'd be just delaying the inevitable. The players had a great chance today to respond and they didn't. They lost confidence in themselves and the manager, and it'll keep getting worse from there.
 
I can't see us throwing out the values of the club to adapt the short term Abramovich model. Even if the call is already made, you'd hope there would be a plan for when it happens. Chelsea axed Lampard knowing an ideal candidate was available to take over, which is not the case at this stage in the season for us.
I can't see us throwing out the values of the club to adapt the short term Abramovich model. Even if the call is already made, you'd hope there would be a plan for when it happens. Chelsea axed Lampard knowing an ideal candidate was available to take over, which is not the case at this stage in the season for us.

He's been here for years, he hasn't learned and we were even allowing him to try to do it on the job. What the hell is long term?
 
Agreed, but someone was comparing the way that our fans treat Ole and the way Barca fans treated koeman, implying that theirs was symptomatic of a more ambitious fanbase. I disagree

You disagree that Barcelona fans are ambitious than Man Utd fans?

(Ignoring the context of this thread)
 
Anyone knocking 'the state of our matchgoing fans' is a bellend. Go watch the side and then have an opinion.
This. I’d ban every one of them.

Clueless armchair pundits taking shots at loyal fans attending the games and supporting the team unwaveringly in the face of a terrible result, real classy, fecking disgrace.
 
Just remember that if it wasn’t for foreign fans, United wouldn’t be the financial juggernaut that it is, darling. The moment United stop signing sponsorship deals all over the world, doing tours in faraway places, and happily collecting tv revenue from overseas fans, I’ll happily stop giving my opinion about United and its match going fans.

Until then, stay in your lane and stop telling people what to do and not to do.

Next.

There should be a bot that automaticaly replies with this when someone has the cheek to state that matchgoing fans are some superior beings and our opinions don’t count if we don’t sleep in the stadium’s parking lot. Without overseas fans United wouldn’t be different than Norwich and the matchgoing fans would enjoy supporting their manager while playing in the Papa John’s trophy.
 
Yeah imagine asking for a selfie and autograph of a guy who's fecking up your season and just lost 5-0 to arch-rivals.

All that while 'running' a top set of players and having no decency to admit being a failure.
 
I think if anyone’s expecting him to go better be ready for disappointment. We are the new Arsenal whether you like it or not this is about money and control. The board don’t want someone who’ll fight them like LVG and Mourinho they want a yes man like Ole. The way Neville spoke is like he knows something and I’ve got a feeling that he’s right!
 
The mythologsing of match going fans on this forum is hilarious. Two women infront of me would always talk about their family lives for 80 minutes and wake up for the last 10. As if 70 thousand people are a hive mind of everything that's great about being a football watcher.

The vast majority of the people on this board who have never been to Old Trafford, know more about football than the vast majority of match going fans.

Blindly supporting someone doesn't make you a bench mark of standard.
 
This. I’d ban every one of them.

Clueless armchair pundits taking shots at loyal fans attending the games and supporting the team unwaveringly in the face of a terrible result, real classy, fecking disgrace.
You'll do nothing.

I guess it's pretty much safe to say that matchgoing Barcelona fans have retained the ability to maintain critical thinking and to point out towards the problem while it is completely lost among Old Trafford regulars. Do me a favour.
 
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I think as with players, managers have their level, I think it is becoming obvious that oles level isn't quite upto what Utd fans were hoping, yes he has built a good squad of players but he doesn't seem to be tactically adaptable enough to get the most out of them. The board should be able to recognise that oles level isn't quite enough. It wouldn't surprise me if they backed him as thus far they have shown a spectacular lack of ambition. I'm hopeful they will be searching for a replacement but even then who is available before the end of the season.
 
The mythologsing of match going fans on this forum is hilarious. Two women infront of me would always talk about their family lives for 80 minutes and wake up for the last 10. As if 70 thousand people are a hive mind of everything that's great about being a football watcher.

The vast majority of the people on this board who have never been to Old Trafford, know more about football than the vast majority of match going fans.

Blindly supporting someone doesn't make you a bench mark of standard.

Yup. They're free to do what they want since they buy their tickets but in my eyes anyone still supporting ole as the manager is actually against United succeeding
 
I imagine the entire football world would be gobsmacked. Make no mistake this wasn’t some run of the mill match. This is seen as the biggest English football match, and one team got humiliated at their own ground infront of millions of eyes who watched it.
 
You'll do nothing.

I guess it's pretty much safe to say that matchgoing Barcelona fans have retained the ability to maintain critical thinking and at pointing out towards the problem while it is completely lost among Old Trafford regulars. Do me a favour.
You’ll do nothing in your armchair lad. Except keep shouting your mouth online. Will no doubt remain a newbie.

Old Trafford has some of the most loyal fans in the world. You take digs at them like they are naive idiots. It’s probably too much to expect ‘fans’ like yourself to show some respect.
 
This. I’d ban every one of them.

Clueless armchair pundits taking shots at loyal fans attending the games and supporting the team unwaveringly in the face of a terrible result, real classy, fecking disgrace.

Those "loyal fans" you're referring to were booing their asses off at half-time and full-time today, just as they were against Atalanta.

Their support is not quite as unwavering as you'd think.
 
He has already lost the players, so they don't give a feck, they will just wait until he goes
 
Those "loyal fans" you're referring to were booing their asses off at half-time and full-time today, just as they were against Atalanta.

Their support is not quite as unwavering as you'd think.
You can boo the performance and that would be expected by the players and manager, the core majority were still singing their arses off at 85 minutes and 5 nil down.

Regardless, I don’t want to see fair weather fans online slagging off the match going fans who pay hard earned money to sit through that and still back their club with all they have. They have backbone and deserve respect.
 
We are not going to sack a manager - let alone one who is a club legend, in October, not a chance. Why are people acting surprised? He was a long term appointment, and we invested heavily in signings for him. He will likely see out the season until out of contention for big prizes and UCL qualification.

We're not Chelsea.
Yes and that's why Chelsea win trophies and we win feck all nowadays.
 
This. I’d ban every one of them.

Clueless armchair pundits taking shots at loyal fans attending the games and supporting the team unwaveringly in the face of a terrible result, real classy, fecking disgrace.


It's a joke, and it's the usual suspects.


Never will understand it...............
 
:rolleyes:
This is how the rot has set in and festered. Man has just led us to a humiliating defeat against our oldest rivals and instead of holding him accountable we are taking selfies and asking for autographs

We’ve become the footballing version of a wax museum.
 
Top red mentality is killing this club. All brainwashed by Fergie's now infamous farewell speech.
I would personally categorize that speech among his biggest mistakes as manager of Manchester United. So silly to say in a changing reality.
 
Those fans may never get the chance to meet a club legend again and want a photo with him, god knows how far they’ve traveled to be there.
 
Lining up for selfies after a 0-5 trashing by LFC at Old Trafford and the most painful league game in decades :confused::confused::confused:
He really needs a PR team to babysit him. For someone who speaks non stop about United DNA, he really doesn’t get how that looks even if just for tourists.

The Barca thing is rank though, I hope we never sink to that level.
 
We’ve become the footballing version of a wax museum.
Well, this is our inevitable destiny. Ten years from now we'll be fully established as out of the top four never to return on any kind of regular basis.
 
Not sure it would make any sense for the board to give Ole a public vote of confidence at this stage. Performances and results against Spurs, Atalanta and City could leave this in the dust pretty quickly, but conversely Ole's position will be completely untenable if we still look shit against Spurs after a rare whole week on the training ground.

Potential replacements have to be sounded out at this stage, even if Ole will still to be in charge for the Spurs match.
 
Not sure it would make any sense for the board to give Ole a public vote of confidence at this stage. Performances and results against Spurs, Atalanta and City could leave this in the dust pretty quickly, but conversely Ole's position will be completely untenable if we still look shit against Spurs after a rare whole week on the training ground.

Potential replacements have to be sounded out at this stage, even if Ole will still to be in charge for the Spurs match.
He should be pulled in front of the board room and sacked tomorrow, his decisions have been shocking for a while and it’s not helping anyone to let it fester any longer.
 
He should be pulled in front of the board room and sacked tomorrow, his decisions have been shocking for a while and it’s not helping anyone to let it fester any longer.
I wouldn't blame anyone for sacking Ole tomorrow, but it is pointless without a replacement lined up. I don't want Phelan, McKenna or Carrick managing us for a number of games. Sacking the manager is the easy part.
 
Every single time the club encounter this period with the manager they support until the end of the season. It's missing top four that will cause them to trigger any action.

Not at all, Mourinho was fecked right off mid season when it was clear the season and performances were going down the drain.
LVG always looked capable of 4th and finished joint 4th with shitty, winning the FA Cup.
People think we sack when 4th is gone due to Moyes but that had as much to do with that daft 6 year contract and the “support your manager” stuff.
Ole aint surviving this unless he goes on a run, starting with City, a game I think they may give him.
 
I wouldn't blame anyone for sacking Ole tomorrow, but it is pointless without a replacement lined up. I don't want Phelan, McKenna or Carrick managing us for a number of games. Sacking the manager is the easy part.
I don’t think it matters at this stage you couldn’t do any worse we only need a caretaker for a few games Felcher or Carrick. Then bring in Zidane even if it’s short term his just can’t go on.
 
I don’t think it matters at this stage you couldn’t do any worse we only need a caretaker for a few games Felcher or Carrick. Then bring in Zidane even if it’s short term his just can’t go on.
This is a great example of why sacking the manager does not solve the problem. You have no plan and are likely to leave us worse off both short term and long term. You can sack the manager, but don't shit the bed in doing so.
 
This is a great example of why sacking the manager does not solve the problem. You have no plan and are likely to leave us worse off both short term and long term. You can sack the manager, but don't shit the bed in doing so.
Your not shitting the bed if it’s an improvement on what is happening right now, I don’t see how bringing in a manger to make the correct decisions is a example of getting rid of Ole. It’s been 3 years and nothing the perfect manager isn’t going to appear tomorrow.
 
I wouldn't blame anyone for sacking Ole tomorrow, but it is pointless without a replacement lined up. I don't want Phelan, McKenna or Carrick managing us for a number of games. Sacking the manager is the easy part.
It’s not easy. It’s quite a costly and drastic step.But it needs doing.
 
Wonder what the hell it would take if a 5-0 drubbing at home to your bitterest rivals is considered acceptable for the board