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GlastonSpur said:
Dear oh dear. This sums you up nicely. And this from a poster who called me "Billy Big Balls" only yesterday :lol:

Spurs play in the same league as United. Spurs took more points from you last season than vice-versa. Spurs have finished in the top 4 twice in the last few years and aim to finish higher still this time around. Spurs finished on 72 points last season and aim to get more this season.

So who knows, perhaps you'll end up in a dog-fight with Spurs and others this season to just to stay in the top 4 yourself. I wouldn't rule it out by any means. But I'm sure you will absolutely guarantee otherwise ... just as Liverpool fans and Chelsea fans did for their teams in recent times.

So it's pretty clear what winds you up. It's things like the "cheek" of Spurs in refusing to selling Bale. It's things like Spurs fans daring to think that Moyes is actually a pretty uninspiring choice to replace Fergie, or even worse (god forbid) thinking that AVB is better. It's things like Spurs thinking they could ever compete with the mighty MUFC.

Dear oh dear.
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Get real, Spurs haven't been anywhere near United in ages. Has there been a single season over the last two decades when you managed to finish less than 15 points behind?
 
verminater said:
Nev has to be cut some slack for reacting to the provocation on here.
He was banned from the Thiago thread, for a fraction of the shit our interlopers have peddled here, and in the Fabregas thread.
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Very true.

Pete is almost allowed to do whatever he likes though on here when it comes to WUMing.
 
Brightonian said:
Support Arsenal - a team who haven't been out of the top division since 1919 or missed out on top-level European competition for 16 year - and act as if you're some kind of world-weary Leeds ultra.
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Stop attempting to be facetious. Arsenal is an easy club to support. So are Spurs. I just don't see why people want to make such a big deal out of trophies that their team has won to try and win an argument on an internet forum.

X Person - "United are a bit weak in the midfield, I'm surprised they haven't reinforced yet."

Caftard - "Lulz, coming from a Spurs fan whose team finished 99 points behind us last season and who desperately need a striker. Come back when you've won something."

It's so incredibly dull and is the response of someone with a very low IQ.
 
alastair said:
I did say it wasn't your fault, but you ignored that part of my post so you could have a rant.

If you want to brag about all the trophies United have won, that's fine. I just don't care for it.
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I didn't ignore it, I just don't think much of using a disclaimer to let you get as snide as you want in the rest of the post unanswered.

If you don't enjoy Arsenal winning trophies, that's fair enough. As I say, it's not as if you've had much choice over the last eight years anyway. Perhaps you'll start to enjoy them again when you get your next one. I'll be sure to ask.
 
alastair said:
Stop attempting to be facetious. Arsenal is an easy club to support. So are Spurs. I just don't see why people want to make such a big deal out of trophies that their team has won to try and win an argument on an internet forum.

X Person - "United are a bit weak in the midfield, I'm surprised they haven't reinforced yet."

Caftard - "Lulz, coming from a Spurs fan whose team finished 99 points behind us last season and who desperately need a striker. Come back when you've won something."

It's so incredibly dull and is the response of someone with a very low IQ.
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Let's be honest though that's not how the conversation starts is it?

The issue is when fans of small clubs come on a United forum and act up like Johnny big bollocks. They then get upset when they are beat down as their club is inevitably shit in comparison.
 
Brightonian said:
I didn't ignore it, I just don't think much of using a disclaimer to let you get as snide as you want in the rest of the post unanswered.

If you don't enjoy Arsenal winning trophies, that's fair enough. As I say, it's not as if you've had much choice over the last eight years anyway. Perhaps you'll start to enjoy them again when you get your next one. I'll be sure to ask.
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Another awe-inspiring post.

I love Arsenal winning trophies. I'm lucky enough to have grown up watching the greatest player in the last hundred years of English football strut his stuff. I just don't see it as a personal achievement and a stick to beat others with.
 
TheReligion said:
Let's be honest though that's not how the conversation starts is it?

The issue is when fans if small clubs come on a United forum and act up like Johnny big bollocks. They then get upset when they are beat down as their club is inevitably shit in comparison.
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There are no fans of small clubs on this forum, as far as I'm aware.

And it is very often how the conversation starts. Not in your case, because you're not a bad poster.
 
alastair said:
Stop attempting to be facetious. Arsenal is an easy club to support. So are Spurs. I just don't see why people want to make such a big deal out of trophies that their team has won to try and win an argument on an internet forum.

X Person - "United are a bit weak in the midfield, I'm surprised they haven't reinforced yet."

Caftard - "Lulz, coming from a Spurs fan whose team finished 99 points behind us last season and who desperately need a striker. Come back when you've won something."

It's so incredibly dull and is the response of someone with a very low IQ.
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Point me to a Glaston post that looks like that in this thread and I'll agree. In fact, they've all been 'Hahaha, Moyes can't land any of his transfer targets, what a joke.' Which doesn't really deserve an intelligent response.
 
Sarni said:
Get real, Spurs haven't been anywhere near United in ages. Has there been a single season over the last two decades when you managed to finish less than 15 points behind?
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We're in the here-and-now (pace the coming season), not the last two decades. And in that here-and-now you've lost an iconic manager, have a star player who wants out and are struggling to improve your midfield. And on the other hand, I think that Spurs will go into this coming season with the strongest squad we've ever had in the Prem era.

So I certainly consider your club as a rival for a top 4 place over the next 10 months ... and the same goes for every other club that finished in the top 5 last season.

You'll be deluded if you imagine that AVB and Levy don't think the same.
 
alastair said:
Another awe-inspiring post.
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Another awe-inspiring response.

alastair said:
I love Arsenal winning trophies. I'm lucky enough to have grown up watching the greatest player in the last hundred years of English football strut his stuff. I just don't see it as a personal achievement and a stick to beat others with.
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Clearly no-one sees is as a 'personal achievement'. We all know we had feck all to do with the trophy apart from lending our voices at OT whenever we had the chance (and, of course, lending a stupid amount of our hard-earned money for that chance). If using it as a stick to beat others with is all you object to, then I agree. But you certainly didn't make it sound that way with stuff like this:

I have never understood the 'achievement' feeling in football.
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That sounded to me like you didn't really get much from Arsenal winning trophies. Apologies if I've misinterpreted you.

The caveat, for me, to the 'using it as a stick to beat others with' part is when someone like Glaston insists on turning up on transfer threads purely to WUM. I'm sure he's big and ugly enough to take it.
 
GlastonSpur said:
We're in the here-and-now (pace the coming season), not the last two decades. And in that here-and-now you've lost an iconic manager, have a star player who wants out and are struggling to improve your midfield. And on the other hand, I think that Spurs will go into this coming season with the strongest squad we've ever had in the Prem era.

So I certainly consider your club as a rival for a top 4 place over the next 10 months ... and the same goes for every other club that finished in the top 5 last season.

You'll be deluded if you imagine that AVB and Levy don't think the same.
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I'm not sure what you're on about. United's squad is the same one that destroyed everyone in the league last season and according to everyone Rooney is past it and was garbage last season. So far our transfer dealings aren't completed this term and you would be naive to think the club won't attract the biggest names.

I get the fact you're delighted that Sir Alex has left but again I think it's silly to presume United will uncontrollably crumble.
 
Brightonian said:
Point me to a Glaston post that looks like that in this thread and I'll agree. In fact, they've all been 'Hahaha, Moyes can't land any of his transfer targets, what a joke.' Which doesn't really deserve an intelligent response.
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The main point I've made is that IMO Moyes has made a mistake in chasing unattainable CM targets, whilst meanwhile more realistic target-CMs go elsewhere.

I get the impression that some United fans share the same view.
 
TheReligion said:
... I think it's silly to presume United will uncontrollably crumble.
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That's not what I presume. But I do think the top 4 will be wider open than for many years ... and that's it's not inconceivable that MUFC could end up in dog-fight to stay in it along with the rest.
 
Brightonian said:
:lol: 'White represents Tottenham, white represents good, white represents purity.' :nervous:
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...Witness the white bear of the poles, and the white shark of the tropics; what but their smooth, flaky whiteness makes them the transcendent horrors they are? That ghastly whiteness it is which imparts such an abhorrent mildness, even more loathsome than terrific, to the dumb gloating of their aspect...What is it that in the Albino man so peculiarly repels and often shocks the eye, as that sometimes he is loathed by his own kith and kin! It is that whiteness which invests him, a thing expressed by the name he bears. The Albino is as well made as other men-has no substantive deformity-and yet this mere aspect of all-pervading whiteness makes him more strangely hideous than the ugliest abortion. Why should this be so?...But thou sayest, methinks that white-lead chapter about whiteness is but a white flag hung out from a craven soul; thou surrenderest to a hypo, Ishmael...
 
GlastonSpur said:
Dear oh dear. This sums you up nicely. And this from a poster who called me "Billy Big Balls" only yesterday :lol:

Spurs play in the same league as United. Spurs took more points from you last season than vice-versa. Spurs have finished in the top 4 twice in the last few years and aim to finish higher still this time around. Spurs finished on 72 points last season and aim to get more this season.

So who knows, perhaps you'll end up in a dog-fight with Spurs and others this season to just to stay in the top 4 yourself. I wouldn't rule it out by any means. But I'm sure you will absolutely guarantee otherwise ... just as Liverpool fans and Chelsea fans did for their teams in recent times.

So it's pretty clear what winds you up. It's things like the "cheek" of Spurs in refusing to selling Bale. It's things like Spurs fans daring to think that Moyes is actually a pretty uninspiring choice to replace Fergie, or even worse (god forbid) thinking that AVB is better. It's things like Spurs thinking they could ever compete with the mighty MUFC.

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I called you billy big balls today as well.

What's funny? You aren't our rivals, you never have been.

Also, I couldn't give a feck if you sell us Bale. I've said more than once I don't think he'll go anywhere this season. I don't even believe we'll bid for him. I don't think it shows "cheek" not to sell him to a bigger club. Hang on as long as you can, I say. And as I've said, I think you will hang onto him, this season at least. And even then I wouldn't be sure he'd leave, and for us. I could see him replace Ronaldo at Madrid.

I was happy to see Spurs make the Champions League. It was refreshing to have a new face there, and I'd much rather Spurs in it than Chelsea or Liverpool. My brother-in-law is a Spurs fan and I was pleased for him to experience his club play in the Champions League. It reminded me what a big deal it actually is, we've been spoiled in recent years and have taken it for granted.

You make these assumptions about what I think of Spurs and how what they do as a club annoys or angers me in some way. Spurs as a club don't bother me at all. I'm able to be happy for them when they make the top 4 and take a Champions League place because they aren't our rivals, either locally, traditionally or for trophies. And them making the Top 4 has meant one of the other lot hasn't. I'd be happy with Spurs and Arsenal in it every year, rather than City, Liverpool or Chelsea.

I like Spurs as a club, always have, but your twattishness on here takes much of that goodwill away.
 
alastair said:
Stop attempting to be facetious. Arsenal is an easy club to support. So are Spurs. I just don't see why people want to make such a big deal out of trophies that their team has won to try and win an argument on an internet forum.

X Person - "United are a bit weak in the midfield, I'm surprised they haven't reinforced yet."

Caftard - "Lulz, coming from a Spurs fan whose team finished 99 points behind us last season and who desperately need a striker. Come back when you've won something."

It's so incredibly dull and is the response of someone with a very low IQ.
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Agreed. Smart people just accuse the club they're discussing of despicable acts, like taking advantage of serious illness to force through transfers. That's how to win points on t'internetz. These fecks are amateurs.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The main point I've made is that IMO Moyes has made a mistake in chasing unattainable CM targets, whilst meanwhile more realistic target-CMs go elsewhere.

I get the impression that some United fans share the same view.
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Just because we failed with Thiago doesn't mean he was unattainable. He wanted to leave Barca, looking at it from the start we had as good a chance as any. Our efforts started with us not knowing that 1) Pep wanted him at Bayern 2) Pep could convince the Bayern board to go for it when it's not really in line their transfer policy 3) Thiago would choose a team stockpiled with world class midfielders rather than have a guaranteed first choice spot at United. Shit happens, it would have been retarded not to go for him.

Fabregas we'll have to see, you may have a point with this one as unlike Thiago there's no issues regarding him desperately wanting to leave/Barca not being able to stop him via release clause etc. but there's hardly a categorical "no chance" from either party, I'm pretty sure United would be aware of this if it was the case.

The targets aren't the problem, it's just the months of inactivity. Fergie always told us how we're constantly working on transfers throughout the season ready for the transfer windows, yet our nearest rivals for example have made 4 big signings by the time we put in our first bid for a midfielder.
 
Brightonian said:
:lol: You are pathetic. I was born a United fan, in Manchester. I go to plenty of matches. I support the club through thick and thin. I also enjoy the fact that we are successful, and win trophies.

Besides, an Arsenal fan having an opinion on the subject is like a teetotaller weighing in on whether or not it's pretentious to be too knowledgeable about wine. Of course you don't boast about trophies: http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk Bit of a viticultural theme developing here, for some reason. I like it.
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And I bet you have a massive cock too.
 
if we are trying to get bale, then this summer in perhaps the best time to try.

i would consider us and real as the prime favourites to land bale if he decided to leave spurs. real still have ronaldo, who played in a similar role to bale, and they also have di maria and had just signed isco as well. plus, they have just spend over 60 million pound this summer for isco and iillaramendi. to see them splashing out another 60 million on bale would be insane, although it is still possible.

anyway bale seems to be very patient and down to earth with his situation right now. credit to him for respecting his club and his manager. any other player in bale's shoes would probably asked for a transfer already.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The main point I've made is that IMO Moyes has made a mistake in chasing unattainable CM targets, whilst meanwhile more realistic target-CMs go elsewhere.

I get the impression that some United fans share the same view.
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This is a one if the biggest clubs in the world, it's never a mistake to go for a top player, i'd be disappointed if we don't, whether it's a realistic target or not you and me don't really have a clue, last season most arsenal fans thought it'd impossible for us to sign van persie, and here you are thinking that levy would never sell to united because suddenly we're rivals for a CL spot? wake up mate.

But then again what if all our top targets reject us? it doesn't make any fecking difference, we don't always get what we want, no one does, the glazers won't feel hurt and moyes will have to deal with only a squad of champions.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The main point I've made is that IMO Moyes has made a mistake in chasing unattainable CM targets, whilst meanwhile more realistic target-CMs go elsewhere.

I get the impression that some United fans share the same view.
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TBH none of the more realistic targets have made a move yet, so those contingency plans are still pretty much available to us.
 
peterstorey said:
What a bunch of cnuts and muffdivers - exactly like Liverpool supporters at the end of the 90s with their sense of entitlement and lack of understanding about what supporting a team is really like.
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Eh? Why would fans of a club who hadn't won anything for nearly a decade have a sense of entitlement similar to fans of the reigning champions? You don't half spout some bollocks, Storey.
 
peterstorey said:
What a bunch of cnuts and muffdivers - exactly like Liverpool supporters at the end of the 90s with their sense of entitlement and lack of understanding about what supporting a team is really like.
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Wind your fecking neck in or find a new forum.
 
alastair said:
Another awe-inspiring post.

I love Arsenal winning trophies. I'm lucky enough to have grown up watching the greatest player in the last hundred years of English football strut his stuff. I just don't see it as a personal achievement and a stick to beat others with.
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George Best? Eric Cantona? Paul Scholes? Ryan Giggs?
 
Spurs signing a winger, it's on....
lol

But seriously, all of the 'arguing' in this thread is meaningless thus far. Both teams are yet to strengthen to the point that makes them much better than last season, IMO anyway. However, my expectation is that Chelsea, City, and Arsenal will end up strengthening more than Spurs do. United probably will as well, but if Rooney leaves people will argue that we're incredibly weaker (despite these same people claiming Rooney is shite now and had a bad season and we already have a replacement in Kagawa). United's squad is the same as last season, sure, the manager is weaker, but when you inherit such a great squad, you surely can't do that much worse. Avram Grant nearly won the Premier League and Champions League for feck's sake, so give me a break :lol:

I do however, think it's naive to believe that Manchester United are trying to sign unattainable midfield players. If there was no on-going discussion of a possible deal, we wouldn't have bid twice for Fabregas. It's a given that the deal is possible, but we'll be paying over the odds if it is. His release clause is massive and he has three years left, so there has to be something in it even if the deal falls through.

Anyway, getting a bit off topic. United to sign Bale! :)
 
GlastonSpur said:
We're in the here-and-now (pace the coming season), not the last two decades. And in that here-and-now you've lost an iconic manager, have a star player who wants out and are struggling to improve your midfield. And on the other hand, I think that Spurs will go into this coming season with the strongest squad we've ever had in the Prem era.

So I certainly consider your club as a rival for a top 4 place over the next 10 months ... and the same goes for every other club that finished in the top 5 last season.

You'll be deluded if you imagine that AVB and Levy don't think the same.
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Yeah, you said the same thing last year and you ended up 5th while we ran away with the title.
 
Think we should be aiming to make him want the move this close season, but aim to actually buy him much closer to his contract rundown. Can't see Spurs selling at the moment but if they out of the CL again next season it's going to be difficult to keep him. We can also see how our other wingers get on this year since we still have plenty of class and promise there.
 
Is anyone else throroughly sick of the constant Spurs and Arsenal dick-waving on here recently?

Any Tom, Dick or Twatty who stumbles across this forum would think that we are obsessed with these 2 lesser clubs, instead of any actual news regarding our football club. When in reality, it's just 2 frustrated fans of second rate clubs worried that United may pick up 2 of their heroes and thus put even more distance between themselves and the aforementioned small clubs.
 
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