Very disappointed with that approach. I could understand it if Argentina had Aguero and Di Maria(flying on the wing) healthy, but if there was ever a time to go full attack on them, it was in this game.
Day 23: Netherlands vs. Argentina
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Very disappointed with that approach. I could understand it if Argentina had Aguero and Di Maria(flying on the wing) healthy, but if there was ever a time to go full attack on them, it was in this game.
van Gaal is a genius. Loved his tactics tonight.
I'll just have to watch the game and see what happened.
Yup. Messi is the player who has created the most chances at this WC and he's has the most 'takeons'. In addition 4 goals. Today he created 2 chances that should have been converted.
He also created the Di Maria goal that won a game. Di Maria spent the entire game being selfish and taking poor shots.
It's not though really. Remember the 2005 F.A Cup final?
If Germany play well and Argentina play like they have done this entire tournament - and scrape out a win... well, it would leave a sour taste in my mouth. So for me, it'd be a bit of a travesty... and who are you to say how I should react to a certain outcome of a tournament?
Just save yourself the two hours and don't watch it. You missed nothing, really.
btw, i forgot to state a fact
before tonight argentina played 4 semifinal games
never lost one, we never played the game to see who comes 3rd
now is five times in a row
oooopsy
before tonight argentina played 4 semifinal games
never lost one, we never played the game to see who comes 3rd
now is five times in a row
oooopsy
That '05 final still holds bitter memories for Utd fans
Of course the outcome of that final was a misrepresentation of the match itself but to say it was a travesty is complete nonsense. It's a game of football and both teams failed to score after being given 120 minutes to do so. And to say that Germany not winning the final before a ball has even been kicked is a travesty of some sorts just boggles the mind.That '05 final still holds bitter memories for Utd fans
It seems like it was a travesty for you that he used the word, travesty. The term may be a bit exaggerated but you're overreacting to an overreaction ie "worst post"
That '05 final still holds bitter memories for Utd fans
Why? Do you never desperately want to see a particular outcome for a football match? If so - that's a tiny bit depressing...
And it's not nonsense either - I was there that day and watched us batter them for 120 minutes. To me, it was a damn travesty... again though, I think you might just struggle with this emotive side of the sport...
And obviously - obviously I don't mean travesty as in on a par with famine or a global outbreak of a disease. Again, I'm just being emotive... because football is an emotive sport.
You gotta be kidding me. Is this the first WC you follow?
There was not much wrong with their first 10 minutes actually. We then scored via a corner and the momentum swung heavily in our favour. The Brazilian defense lost their structure and composure for about 15 minutes. Such periods are far from uncommon, especially in high pressure situations and when you lack a clear leader in the defense who takes charge.
Sometimes you get lucky, survive such minutes without a major loss and manage to reclaim some composure. Sometimes the opposing team punishes you for it and scores another. We scored four.
You can downgrade this strength all you want, but the level of pressure, intensity, efficiency and ruthlessness we displayed in these minutes was special. If that wouldn´t be the case, then you would have spankings all over the place in football.
Brazil offered us the space, but it was our play that punished them so hard for it. We never gave them the chance to recover by going for the kill and scoring at will over and over again. By the 30 minute mark we had broken them mentally and morally. And this is something the German national team deserves credit for.
Seeing Ger exposing brazil was great.
Absolutely shocking managerial decisions today.
What was Frans Hoek playing at? he should be sacked.
What was Frans Hoek playing at? he should be sacked.
That is true sir, but its only the third place game and aside from Romania and Croatia, I'd be hard pressed to name another third place team (maybe England).
Maybe we could say pretty pretty please to the dutch F.A.
Yes, me too!!!
Argentina clearly deserved this win, Holland never attacked in 120 minutes.
Nonsense.
They shot on goal once!!!!!! robben from 25 meters, defensive boring team.
Failing to create good chances does not mean Holland was not attacking.
exactly! they were attacking, but not to the correct side
Yeah, and my post was nonsense
Just checking to see if I had enough time to run to my mates..
True, I suppose. It would have to mean they were pretty fecking shite at attacking, though.
Regarding who deserves it and not, I don't think there have been many - if any - World Cup finals that ended with a blatantly undeserving team lifting the trophy. And I don't think people need to worry abut it this year either.
If the Germans really are the outstanding team - by some distance, as many have said - they will win the final comfortably. That's my prediction, anyway.
If they don't win the final comfortably I would take that as proof they're not the outstanding - by some distance - team of the tournament. No need to thank me for this wonderful insight.
If the Germans really are the outstanding team - by some distance, as many have said - they will win the final comfortably. That's my prediction, anyway.
If they don't win the final comfortably I would take that as proof they're not the outstanding - by some distance - team of the tournament. No need to thank me for this wonderful insight.
Your team deserves credit for winning the game and ruthlessly taking what was given to them on a silver platter. That was not even Sunday League level defending from Brazil. Germany fully deserved their win: the reason the score was 7-1 was that Brazil put out the worst performance in World Cup history. This fact has been acknowledged by virtually every commentator I have read, at least those in English. The Brazilians melted down, the pressure of the moment, of history, got to them. That was the biggest factor in the result.
Do people just wumming to say that Netherlands was not attacking? What's the purpose of that for regular posters?
Argentina has the better players, and rightly so was attacking more. Netherlands defended more, but did plenty of attacking too and created some decent chances.
Argentina has the better players, and rightly so was attacking more. Netherlands defended more, but did plenty of attacking too and created some decent chances.
they were atacking, but they were shit at it
in fact they had one single chance -robben's- at the 89th minute- that was controled by mascherano
argentina had four -messis FK, higuain's, palacio's header and Maxi Rodriguez-
I thought Argentina was the better up to 70+ min., but run out of gas after that right to the end of extra-time. On the extra-time especially, Netherlands was clearly the more attacking side, with Argentina going for counter-attack mode.
But it's all conjecture, and I don't have anything to back it up, but personal observation.
i think you are spot on, but even though the dutchs tried to attack they never had a single chance, bar robbens
And Mascherano was a beast. He really is wasted playing CB at Barca, when he can actually be the best as DM.
yes, he played awesome tonight, not only as a midfielder, but also covering the defenders arses
Agreed. van Persie was in his menstrual cycle, and Sneijder forgot taking his viagra.
I'm just saying that the Dutch was attacking, although didn't create many meaningful chances.
yes, at one point they wanted to attack more, they had control of the ball and tried different aproaches, but they didnt succed one bit, argentina's defense was particularly good, and when they failed, mascherano saved them
Against Belgium and Bosnia, your defence was all over the place against route one football (high ball pumped in to defence). I was wondering why the Dutch didn't try this at the end, by pairing Huntelaar and v. Persie upfront on extra-time, instead of trying to walk it through the middle where Masch was there patrolling.
i think that their main problem was on the sides, to do what you say, they needed to have players to cross the ball, but they werent allowed, how many times did robben had the ball on the side and ran with it? argentina decided to defend first and attack second, it was a valid strategy, although boring, that it worked to prevent the dutchs to score
Knew I was right, Van Gaal said his two main men chickened out so he had to pick the CB. What a shit way to end the tournament.
Holland destroyed Spain. Germany where not that good in the first games. But they are a team for the knockout fase. I hope they destroy Argentina.