Ah I see the Van Gaal is now shit trend has already started 
Day 23: Netherlands vs. Argentina
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Because he's better than the other options.
You could see the logic, but it was daft, agreed.
They were still fecking awful. Sneijder was a joke. Everyone but the defence was awful. Kuyt was an abomination.
Argentina were very cagey, but I can't say as many of their players were as shit as Hollands were.
Van Gaals luck ran out. I guess it was miracle he got them this far.
Extremely average players bar one or two. Miracle van Gaal got them this far.
The Argies weren't much better. A Villa defender had Messi in his back pocket for 120 minutes.
I doubt that. And he'll still want to win that game.
The only other big fish that wasn't was France really.
Germany was half expected to trash Brazil too.
I wanted him on for Sneijder, who was utterly hopeless and whose penalty record isn't great
But he was fantastic in the penalty shots.
There will never be that many goals when Argentina play.
Everyone wanted brazil dead, and they died.
Why everyone wants now argentenia dead, explain me
Why everyone wants now argentenia dead, explain me
A nervy ending with a deserve penalty shoot-out to decide the winner.
When was the last time a United player played in a World Cup final?
Speculative.
Some players dont want to take penalties. When a player steps forward, you have to trust your players in that situation, if Vlaar stepped forward to take one, he takes one, simple, doesn't matter when. The stupid thing was him putting himself forward.
How are they suppose to do that? They cant score more then 1 goal per match.
Yeah, true, but they still had their moments. I don't think I've seen a match with Argentina this World cup that has actually been entertaining. Either way, they're in the final.
He has to win it first, which he won't
Isn't Vlaar the backup PK taker for Villa? It's a joint decision between the players and management when deciding the order of the takers anyway.
Germany have got this World Cup pretty much won.
Yeah they did....
But he obviously wasn't fully/match-fit... in a game where you know Extra Time is a possibility, seems a bit short-sighted to start one player you know won't last the 90... let alone 2.
Bobby Charlton
On what grounds did they deserve it? Got the pens right but their open play was bang average, as they have been in nearly all their games so far. Really hope they don't win on the back of these performances.
Vlaar of all people to take the first penalty; Gambles, sometimes goes your way, sometimes doesn't
By diving against Mexico. They played well against Spain but have been, as you said, pretty crap the rest of the time.
Germany better win the final, Argentina are bloody average.
What the hell are you talking about? I don't care which team went through. Just a bad night of piss poor football. Stayed up till 5 for this garbage
Is that Messi I see jumping up and down and showing some emotion?
How does one make the finals without playing one good game?
Netherlands ran out luck.
Messi as great as he is, I still think maradona was better, just as he had a bigger aura about him than messi to go along with the talent, he also turned it on in big games. Back today's performance, Messi does not look 100% fit a bit slower than his usual self, maybe the reason behind his subdued performance.
Ha ha, how long have you be waiting around to hurl the 'Van Gaal is shit' stuff?
Perhaps a replay of 1986 instead.
Nice end to the OranjeCafe wankfest.
He still has to go to Napoli.
I fail to see how winning one match, no matter how big it is will make him the best ever. For me he is already in the top three ever no matter what happens and he got there from his consistency and great performances from 2008-2011. How would a defender slipping tomorrow and costing argentina the win make him any worse than if they went on to win? The world cup is a team trophy not an individual one, so I think it is unfair on messi for people to say he has to win the world cup.
Since when was it a joint decision? I appreciate players volunteer but the manager should set the order, surely?
I think Argentina - with Mascherano - have a better chance of stopping Germany than Holland did.
Still think Germany will beat them though... I'll go 2-0.
Still think Germany will beat them though... I'll go 2-0.
Was Kleberson ours yet in 2002?