Darren Fletcher the pundit

A Prime Fletcher and McTominay in CM. You wouldn’t beat that shit

As for pundit Fletch, he’s decent, wish he got involved in United in some big capacity
 
He's neither box office or exaggerated enough,unfortunately.

If he's earned it and has the required abilities for a particular role then,yes, I would like to see him involved with United in a certain capacity.
 
Terrible tonight.

Ole didn’t get it wrong in the first half apparently. He’s so scared to criticise the tactics.
 
He is not going to say something badly about him, any United player that knows Ole personally and played with him defends him to the extreme.
 
Richard's was terrible, didn't think he did too bad - he was balanced
 
Terrible tonight.

Ole didn’t get it wrong in the first half apparently. He’s so scared to criticise the tactics.

Like all the ex-players. They won't say a bad word about Ole but were lining up to criticise Jose.
 
Majority of our ex players as pundits are not criticising Ole enough.

They aren’t going too. He’s their mate and they desperately want him to succeed. We all do but not much evidence that he will, I’m afraid.
 
Majority of our ex players as pundits are not criticising Ole enough.

Same on here isn't it?

I find him a good pundit, well spoken and sharp tactically. Should be on more.

He's actually the sort I think would make a really good manager but I thought that about Carragher and he seems very comfortable in TV now so little desire to go into the unpredictable world of football management.
 
He's far too close to the club to be even slightly balanced in his views.
Agree and this can be said with regards to Scholes,Rio,Giggs, and the Neville brothers.

The only people who give decent analysis are players who weren't totally ingrained into the club for a long time like Hargreaves,RVP .
 
To be fair, who gives a shit if these people criticise Ole or not? People shouldn't be sheep, they need to make their own judgments.
The entire club from management, to squad to coaching to board is rotten and we don't need anyone telling us that.
Fans need to be able to organise themselves without being egged on by some members of a boys club with no sense of reality.
 
He was on talksport and said the issues were more with the type of players the managers, who have been backed, have bought. Seemed to excuse the board, of course
 
I like him but there's no doubt he's pulling punches out of respect for Ole and the club generally. He may see off the pitch issues as outside of his area of expertise but criticising the players after a given under-performance is only telling half the story.
 
Agree and this can be said with regards to Scholes,Rio,Giggs, and the Neville brothers.

The only people who give decent analysis are players who weren't totally ingrained into the club for a long time like Hargreaves,RVP .

Wasnt the case with Jose and LVG though. Don't think it's being close to the club that's the issue, it's being close to the manager.
 
All the pundits that are associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “too close to the club”, and all the pundits who aren’t associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “want United to fail.”

Or maybe, unlike so many of our fans, they can see that the issue goes way beyond the current manager.
 
Wasnt the case with Jose and LVG though. Don't think it's being close to the club that's the issue, it's being close to the manager.

Correct - and just like the case of Moyes, it's the managers who get mollycoddled by the media who achieve the least...

They're more concerned with their own perception than winning trophies for the club.

Mourinho and LvG both full of barely concealed contempt for the U.K footy media and both won trophies - with the manager who has the worst relationship with the footy media (Mourinho) winning the most trophies...

Food for thought.
 
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All the pundits that are associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “too close to the club”, and all the pundits who aren’t associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “want United to fail.”

Or maybe, unlike so many of our fans, they can see that the issue goes way beyond the current manager.

Bingo
 
All the pundits that are associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “too close to the club”, and all the pundits who aren’t associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “want United to fail.”

Or maybe, unlike so many of our fans, they can see that the issue goes way beyond the current manager.

Pretty sure 99% of the fanbase know the clubs has a lot more problems beyond Ole.
 
All the pundits that are associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “too close to the club”, and all the pundits who aren’t associated with United don’t criticise Ole enough because they “want United to fail.”

Or maybe, unlike so many of our fans, they can see that the issue goes way beyond the current manager.
Posters can't deal with different opinions.
 
Well it's quite obvious why Ole gets most of the stick, because its the only realistically changeable aspect because Woody isn't going anywhere until the Glazers do.
 
Fletch came a cross very well, i didnt think Richards was too bad, he was spot on his point about our nativity In the way we played.
 
Before the match: "Ole is the man to rectify the gap between City & Liverpool, not this year, not next year, but give him 3-4 years."

Half-time: "Ole didn't get it wrong in the 1st half. It's up to the players to change things around on the pitch. Solve the problems themselves."

Post: "These young lads will learn a lot tonight. Credit to Ole."

No-one can be that brain dead. Happy to criticise the players yet holds back on the manager. Who's fault is it that we looked like a pub team?

He's clearly a shill so who cares what he has to say.

Only one who's not been a sell out and kept his integrity is RVP. The rest are sycophantic boot lickers.
 
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Before the match: "Ole is the man to rectify the gap between City & Liverpool, not this year, not next year, but give him 3-4 years."

Half-time: "Ole didn't get it wrong in the 1st half. It's up to the players to change things around on the pitch. Solve the problems themselves."

Post: "These young lads will learn a lot tonight. Credit to Ole."

No-one can be that brain dead. Happy to criticise the players yet holds back on the manager. Who's fault is it that we looked like a pub team?

He's clearly a shill so who cares what he has to say.

Only one who's not been a sell out and kept his integrity is RVP. The rest are sycophantic boot lickers.

That's what Ole wants to hear I guess, meanwhile RVP says his innocent opinion and got slaughtered by our manager in the presser. Maybe if he was focused on coaching the team rather not handling the slightest criticism while the rest of our ex players are spouting these delusional nonsense, we might have been better.
 
That's what Ole wants to hear I guess, meanwhile RVP says his innocent opinion and got slaughtered by our manager in the presser. Maybe if he was focused on coaching the team rather not handling the slightest criticism while the rest of our ex players are spouting these delusional nonsense, we might have been better.
Coaching the team? We scoff at that here. Didn't you know that romanticism and fairy tales win football matches?
 
Fletch was OK, good to know I was not the only one blaming lindelof for the third goal. Between him and Jones it was amazing we didn't concede more.
 
Refreshing to hear although he's talking some bollocks regarding knowing since day 1 that Ronaldo would be the best player in the world and Rooney would end up United's all time top scorer.

He didn't say that. You should be more precise when listening to and reciting other people's comments.
 
You wouldn’t think it to read the caf these days.

Are posters supposed to begin every post criticising Ole by first saying “the owners are the biggest problem” ?

Quite bothersome and precious. I just take it as a given that anyone who is not an idiot knows the Glazers are scum, and totally incompetent.

Are we supposed to give Ole leeway because cnuts own and run the club? People didn’t for the last three managers.

On topic: it was embarrassing how careful Fletch was in not criticising Ole.
 
I hate him. Why does he keep saying the full name of every player?

TRENT ALEXANDER-ARNOLD PASSES THE BALL TO DIOGO JOTA AND THE SHOT IS PAMMED AWAY BY KASPER SCHMEICHEL.

Please just say Alexander-Arnold, Jota and Schmeichel. We won’t confuse them with anyone else.