Club Sale | It’s done!

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Great Result! Thankfully the quadruple non sense will stop. If we do really well, it will be the season like Jose won cups. Now Glazers time to wind up instead of wasting more time in lala land waiting to see whether United is winning the league.
 
Mmxxii said:
How many word-class players have Arsenal signed to make them compete for the title?

What you saw from Liverpool today and in recent seasons, as well as Arsenal this season, is the result of excellent coaching from Klopp and Arteta. It's a knee-jerk response to suggest going on a spending spree everytime results go against us.
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It’s not just the money, they impose standards and wouldn’t tolerate some of the shite that’s been served up in recent years. These beatings have become almost normal now , even ETH lost to Brentford and City in this manner.
 
Well this isn't a Qatar vs Jim post but for those who still rather Glazers stay need a reality check
 
So to fight against the sugar daddy "plastic clubs" you have to become one as well?
Well, I guess, it is what's become of football, unfortunately.
 
One good thing about this whole shit is that the spotlight is now on the Glazers selling again.
 
Deco10Legend said:
So to fight against the sugar daddy "plastic clubs" you have to become one as well?
Well, I guess, it is what's become of football, unfortunately.
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That is exactly it unfortunately. If you can't beat them you have to join them. Otherwise you'll become a midtable club winning one trophy a decade if you're lucky. Sad times but its true
 
Nonameisknown said:
It was not a freak result. Varane run to the ground. Casemero cannot be taken out for someone without a drop in Quality. Rashford could barely run because he plays every game. We have one of the worst bench in the league. You can't play same squad every 3 days and not expect to be beaten thoroughly at least 2 or 3 through a season. We have had two with City and Liverpool. I am very confident that we will get another 6 or 7-0 drubbing somewhere this season. We are a shambles of a club being patched by the brilliance of ten Hag but there's just so much plaster you can apply to a festering sore.
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In the league?

Time for bed.
 
If the Glazers were thinking that they'd found a manager who could let them stay on a few more years and continue to milk the club if they sold a minority share or whatever, this should thankfully dissuade them of that. That's not a criticism of Ten Hag, he's done great but there's still a lot needed and I don't think any manager would be able to do it if we're going to be hamstrung by the Glazers
 
I think that too, this is it for the Glazers, the reality of hundreds of millions in player investment.
 
We should have been getting Gakpo in January. But Glazers effed up so bad, he was scoring 2 against us.

Today is a freak result. However, it is just a reality check that our biggest anchor is the Glazers. They're holding us back far too much.
 
Roboc7 said:
You clearly don’t know anything about the Glazers if you think Arnold makes the decisions. And in any case if we don’t know what he does and doesn’t do then don’t know how you are crediting him for ETH.
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If Arnold makes no decisions, why are you so for Arnold getting the sack? If it all boils down to Glazers, get rid of them and give the rest a chance.
 
red thru&thru said:
We should have been getting Gakpo in January. But Glazers effed up so bad, he was scoring 2 against us.

Today is a freak result. However, it is just a reality check that our biggest anchor is the Glazers. They're holding us back far too much.
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Even if we decided against Gakpo the fact we were limited to loan signings when we'd just freed up about 15m in wages from Ronaldo is indicative of where we are right now. There isn't another top 6 club that would be looking fora loan signing from Turkey, who was there on loan from the championship as their first choice striker for the rest of the season
 
red thru&thru said:
If Arnold makes no decisions, why are you so for Arnold getting the sack? If it all boils down to Glazers, get rid of them and give the rest a chance.
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The question is why keep him, he’s been part of failure, was appointed by people who have run a football club into the ground. Nothing he has done in last 15 years is any incentive to keep him as CEO. It will be a completely different job under new owners.

If you want to grow the brand, become the biggest and the best on and off the pitch ,develop world class infrastructure, I’m not seeing a lot on Arnold’s CV that suggest he is qualified other than nothing bad was his fault.

The idea that he worked at the club for 14 years in a senior role before taking over from Woodward but gets a free pass is just utter nonsense.
 
Roboc7 said:
The question is why keep him, he’s been part of failure, was appointed by people who have run a football club into the ground. Nothing he has done in last 15 years is any incentive to keep him as CEO. It will be a completely different job under new owners.

The idea that he worked at the club for 14 years in a senior role before taking over from Woodward but gets a free pass is just utter nonsense.
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Isn't ruling him incompetent by association also flawed?
 
Anyone who doesn't think we need massive wealth is deluding themselves. It's going to take massive investment to undo the damage the Glazers have done. It's Qatar or bust for me unless the Saudis get involved.
 
Roboc7 said:
The question is why keep him, he’s been part of failure, was appointed by people who have run a football club into the ground. Nothing he has done in last 15 years is any incentive to keep him as CEO. It will be a completely different job under new owners.

If you want to grow the brand, become the biggest and the best on and off the pitch ,develop world class infrastructure, I’m not seeing a lot on Arnold’s CV that suggest he is qualified other than nothing bad was his fault.

The idea that he worked at the club for 14 years in a senior role before taking over from Woodward but gets a free pass is just utter nonsense.
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EtH has been hired by Glazers. We get rid of him, too?
 
VP89 said:
Isn't ruling him incompetent by association also flawed?
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No it’s evaluating what he has been part of. He’s spent 15 years doing what the Glazers want, the club is going to pivot in a completely different direction under new ownership.

I have no idea what is/isn’t his fault but you appoint someone who deserves the job and has a background of success. He’s been part of consistent and prolonged failure that’s just a fact. It’s an elite job he doesn’t just keep it by default.
 
Roboc7 said:
No it’s evaluating what he has been part of. He’s spent 15 years doing what the Glazers want, the club is going to pivot in a completely different direction under new ownership.

I have no idea what is/isn’t his fault but you appoint someone who deserves the job and has a background of success. He’s been part of consistent and prolonged failure that’s just a fact. It’s an elite job he doesn’t just keep it by default.
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So can you say what he was bad at prior to being made CEO?
 
red thru&thru said:
EtH has been hired by Glazers. We get rid of him, too?
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He can point to being successful at Ajax though, Arnold can’t point to anything. Whether you like it or not Arnold is part of failure, you want the best not just someone whose best quality seems to be they were anonymous for 14 years.
 
Man United fans - you might be interested to know Radio 5 are currently playing a 30 minute show called: "How to buy a football club: Manchester United" it will be on BBC sounds later I expect.
 
red thru&thru said:
This should be the job of the CEO, Richard Arnold. There have been complaints in the past that United have too many reporting lines, and there for slow, cumbersome decisions are made.

We need to streamline the reporting lines so we can be more agile and nimble in negotiations.
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red thru&thru said:
EtH has been hired by Glazers. We get rid of him, too?
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Let me be clear I love this manager but under Qatar rule irrespective of how’s he’s done he might be having a very uncomfortable phone call the next day !
 
VP89 said:
So can you say what he was bad at prior to being made CEO?
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Wrong question, what’s he demonstrated he’s good at?. If someone is spending £5n, clearing 800m of debt and investing another 2bn it’s all about what you’ve done and can do not what you can’t blame on them.
 
red thru&thru said:
If Arnold makes no decisions, why are you so for Arnold getting the sack? If it all boils down to Glazers, get rid of them and give the rest a chance.
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ETH will be given time, but the senior leadership will be culled, no one pays 6bn for an asset and let’s someone else run it. They’ll want someone with pedigree, a bit like City when they brought in the Barca execs.
 
The Qataris or Ratcliffe can’t come fast enough. The glazers have made a powerhouse club strapped for cash.
 
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