Arsenal-Mania goes into Meltdown

Mockney said:
For this to be funny they'd have to firmly believe they lost due to a dastardly conspiracy by Zorgon the unquenchable, in collusion with the Lizard People, and their owners, to rob them of their sacred right to win the League, and that their manager is actually some kind of demi god working tirelessly against the forces of darkness aided only by their saintly captain and wealth of outstanding world class players ....Which, unfortunately, they don't.
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Aha, that pesky Zorgon is after Arsenal aswell as Liverpool now.

When will he leave them alone?!
 
AdZzUtd said:
Aha, that pesky Zorgon is after Arsenal aswell as Liverpool now.

When will he leave them alone?!
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Blasted be that Zorgon. Damned to the depth of Morgadroid..Blast and Humdrug...he truly is the destroyer of sacred souls.
 
Man Utd 3:1 Arsenal (2022/23)
The Arsenal v Utd match thread is quite cute. They started it off with loads of quotes from our match thread here. It's like they were eating their olives before expecting a delicious steak for their main. They ended up with stale tuna sandwiches.

https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/thr...ay-september-4-ko-16-30-bst-sky-sports.35875/

@Suedesi @SuperiorXI @Will Singh @Rozay @pocco @HayabusaUtd @Bwuk @Cloud7 @Ole'sattheWheel @Andycoleno9 @BluesJr @Adam-Utd @Kag @horsechoker @pascell @Boondog @Vidyoyo

You lot clearly erked them enough to make it on the front page. :D
 
That's Mondays breakfast sorted :drool:

They still are a soft bunch and we found the soft centre and ate it. Thanks for the 3 points.
 
I swear that forum gives you viruses just browsing it. I remember it being such a nightmare a few years ago that I just gave up.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
That's Mondays breakfast sorted :drool:

They still are a soft bunch and we found the soft centre and ate it. Thanks for the 3 points.
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As I just posted in the other thread, Im so glad they had a full strength team otherwise they would have made excuses about Zinchenko, Odegaard and Saka not playing. They'll probably still use Partey as an excuse.
 
P-Ro said:
I swear that forum gives you viruses just browsing it. I remember it being such a nightmare a few years ago that I just gave up.
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I think you went to the wrong forum mate. That was Arse..... ahh never mind.
 
Probably a easy win. People misjudge them, they faced l'pool at their worst in like 4 years. And fluked other games. We on the other hands should have scored 6 goals more than we have. I'd be amazed if we don't run them over. 3-1 or 4-1 for us imo. It's not top 4 team Brighton we're facing, it's united
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Wait for the excuses from them and the rest of the league when we win over there.

Will probably be along the lines of it being too early in ETH’s tenure. Still early in the season, a lucky win. Not playing two games a week.

But one thing is for sure. We are still ****, regardless of the result.
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Don't worry, the word 'lucky' is a word the entire deluded United fanbase is addicted to.

Our fixtures bar Liverpool have been the same, if anything teams like Palace being better than Lester they faced.

Just remember, the only thing who doesn't ride on luck is United. Everyone else is simply too lucky.

Fecking imbeciles the lot of them
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I can see casemerio have a worldie of a game against us then flopping the rest of the season.

I think we beat them easily, martinelli is going to have a field day with dagot. Jesus will have that defence on toast. Our only downfall is on the counter, gab hasn't been great recently and I wouldn't want him as a last defender atm. If he is fit then ode needs to be stronger on the ball, they will target him and counter off that.

A xhaka yellow will be needed.
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I am at a complete loss at how they are taking for granted the idea that they "dominated the game", it is such an over simplistic understanding of football.

They dominated the ball sure but what is the actual point of possesion? I would argue possession should in theory do 2 things, one lead to you creating chances and 2 protect you from conceding chances. That would be the ideal.

We scored 3, they scored 1. We had 6 shots on target, they had 3. It would seem like their possession didn't really do either the jobs it was meant to. Latter years ineffective Wenger like performance if I have ever seen one. They pass the ball from side to side, we readjust to contain them, rinse and repeat until we pick them off. After our second goal I had absolutely no doubt we would win.
 
Honestly I just want to feast on redcafe tonight.
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Bless.


Difficult game without any doubt, but yet, I have been watching all of United's games this year and even when they win they don't look too good. Normally we should win if Ødegaard plays like he did last game we will take all points. I'm confident. I don't see how United would break us.
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Secretly wishing that losing will prove Mikel is not the right man.
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OverratedOpinion said:
I am at a complete loss at how they are taking for granted the idea that they "dominated the game", it is such an over simplistic understanding of football.

They dominated the ball sure but what is the actual point of possesion? I would argue possession should in theory do 2 things, one lead to you creating chances and 2 protect you from conceding chances. That would be the ideal.

We scored 3, they scored 1. We had 6 shots on target, they had 3. It would seem like their possession didn't really do either the jobs it was meant to. Latter years ineffective Wenger like performance if I have ever seen one. They pass the ball from side to side, we readjust to contain them, rinse and repeat until we pick them off. After our second goal I had absolutely no doubt we would win.
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Absolutely spot on, I dont give a shit if the opposition has the ball for 88 minutes and we win 1 - 0, the result matters, no trophy for "most passes made"
 
Chief123 said:
As I just posted in the other thread, Im so glad they had a full strength team otherwise they would have made excuses about Zinchenko, Odegaard and Saka not playing. They'll probably still use Partey as an excuse.
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We did them a solid and kept casemiro on the bench for most of the game.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I am at a complete loss at how they are taking for granted the idea that they "dominated the game", it is such an over simplistic understanding of football.

They dominated the ball sure but what is the actual point of possesion? I would argue possession should in theory do 2 things, one lead to you creating chances and 2 protect you from conceding chances. That would be the ideal.

We scored 3, they scored 1. We had 6 shots on target, they had 3. It would seem like their possession didn't really do either the jobs it was meant to. Latter years ineffective Wenger like performance if I have ever seen one. They pass the ball from side to side, we readjust to contain them, rinse and repeat until we pick them off. After our second goal I had absolutely no doubt we would win.
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That's a good outlook on the game actually, it was very reminiscent of how we used to regularly hammer Arsenal under Wenger. "But we won the passing"...
 
It's just like reading the Caf really. It's predominantly quite well reasoned posts, but a few lunatics can make the whole place look bad.

Most acknowledge that they dominated the ball but didn't do enough with it in terms of scoring chances, and that they played into our hands with such a high line and were punished for it. Pretty spot on. You can guarantee that will be the match report following the Spurs game too.
 
Carl said:
It's just like reading the Caf really. It's predominantly quite well reasoned posts, but a few lunatics can make the whole place look bad.

Most acknowledge that they dominated the ball but didn't do enough with it in terms of scoring chances, and that they played into our hands with such a high line and were punished for it. Pretty spot on. You can guarantee that will be the match report following the Spurs game too.
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I think most of the other forums are okay. None of them will ever be as bad as Rawk which was truly demented in the pre-Klopp years (not sure if it has changed).
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
I love how football, regardless of what actually happens, is just one fanbase calling the other fanbase 'deluded' on an infinite loop.
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Yup.

Also taking far greater delight in calling the opposition shit when their side wins than pleasure in their own side’s performance. I thought Arsenal were really good yesterday, which made our victory all the sweeter.
 
Carl said:
It's just like reading the Caf really. It's predominantly quite well reasoned posts, but a few lunatics can make the whole place look bad.

Most acknowledge that they dominated the ball but didn't do enough with it in terms of scoring chances, and that they played into our hands with such a high line and were punished for it. Pretty spot on. You can guarantee that will be the match report following the Spurs game too.
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I don’t even think it was that much of a high line, it’s just how a team presses in the modern game. You can’t really press and have a deep defensive line.
 
cyberman said:
I don’t even think it was that much of a high line, it’s just how a team presses in the modern game. You can’t really press and have a deep defensive line.
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They were on halfway, which is quite high against Rashford, but I also completely take your point. Just 5 yards deeper and I don't think Rashford makes it 2-1 though.
 
Carl said:
It's just like reading the Caf really. It's predominantly quite well reasoned posts, but a few lunatics can make the whole place look bad.

Most acknowledge that they dominated the ball but didn't do enough with it in terms of scoring chances, and that they played into our hands with such a high line and were punished for it. Pretty spot on. You can guarantee that will be the match report following the Spurs game too.
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Unlike rawk where you can find a goldmine of lunatics in every thread.
 
Carl said:
They were on halfway, which is quite high against Rashford, but I also completely take your point. Just 5 yards deeper and I don't think Rashford makes it 2-1 though.
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I just think it’s more of a pressing issue than a high line. Any lower and Bruno has acres of space to run into since he then isn’t playing that ball first time and that’s every bit of a problem.
The press is designed to stop that ball further up and Arsenal just don’t seem very good at it imo. It’s like all Arsenal fans claiming we did nothing but counter when the first goal was a 20 pass move that went up and down the pitch twice and the third was from our throw in. It’s as if they’ve seen our player through 1v1 from a through ball and they automatically see a counter attack.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I am at a complete loss at how they are taking for granted the idea that they "dominated the game", it is such an over simplistic understanding of football.

They dominated the ball sure but what is the actual point of possesion? I would argue possession should in theory do 2 things, one lead to you creating chances and 2 protect you from conceding chances. That would be the ideal.

We scored 3, they scored 1. We had 6 shots on target, they had 3. It would seem like their possession didn't really do either the jobs it was meant to. Latter years ineffective Wenger like performance if I have ever seen one. They pass the ball from side to side, we readjust to contain them, rinse and repeat until we pick them off. After our second goal I had absolutely no doubt we would win.
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Spot on, if they have possession but do nothing with it it's pointless and playing that high line was terrible tactics.
Was watching some match reactions on YouTube and they were saying you can't change your tactics for one game and defend deep, Arteta was right for just playing the Arsenal way
 
I was impressed with Arsenal; they've come a long way. It's taken them long enough to play football, and they still haven't address mental weakness from fergie vs wenger days. Some say Arteta is brilliant, come on the three subs killed any chance Arsenal had of making a comeback.
 
"Even when we win we don't look good".

I've been hearing that since the 90s.

I'm surprised Arsenal aren't used to this by now. A flash of quality here and there before rolling over and having their tummy tickled. It's been the same ever since Viera called it a day.
 
 
Carl said:
It's just like reading the Caf really. It's predominantly quite well reasoned posts, but a few lunatics can make the whole place look bad.

Most acknowledge that they dominated the ball but didn't do enough with it in terms of scoring chances, and that they played into our hands with such a high line and were punished for it. Pretty spot on. You can guarantee that will be the match report following the Spurs game too.
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We’ve beaten arsenal exactly the same way for the last 15 years and 3 different arsenal managers.
Strange that they cannot or will not adapt to it, but I’m not complaining
 
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