Anthony Martial | Sevilla loan watch

Crowd showed him loads of love when he got subbed off. Seems happy there doubt he would want to come back
 
Devil_forever said:
Exactly, we all know he’s a talented player but he’s lazy as feck and has not developed himself at all. He can have a purple patch at Sevilla ala Lingard at West Ham but he’s had more than enough time to show that he hasn’t got the attitude or application required to play at United.

Hope he has a good loan just so we can cash in.

For what it’s worth, I’d rather have Dan James in the squad than Martial.
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You could say this for every single player currently at the club.
 
Hopefully he can keep showing good form and he's back in form, for us or anyone else.
 
Rangnick costing us with his decision to loan our best striker. He kept lingard so I dont care that Martial wanted to leave.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
So if Dan James scores that goal for Leeds against similar opposition we say “found his level”, right? I need to know what to think here.
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You mean at Sevilla sitting second in La Liga? And Dan James at Leeds sitting in 15th place in the PL? Yeah sounds about right.

Shame we loaned him out in all honesty. Could well use him now with Rashford barely looking a footballer, Cavani more injured than in the squad, Elanga far from good enough and Ronaldo mis and hit
 
Godfather said:
You mean at Sevilla sitting second in La Liga? And Dan James at Leeds sitting in 15th place in the PL? Yeah sounds about right.

Shame we loaned him out in all honesty. Could well use him now with Rashford barely looking a footballer, Cavani more injured than in the squad, Elanga far from good enough and Ronaldo mis and hit
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This is so strange considering many on here have consistently told us he is the future of United.
 
If he stayed, he wouldn‘t look anything like he does now. He needed out and maybe how things have been developing off the field, probably for good reason. That Utd shirt weighs too heavy for some people and the forensic nature of everything that’s happening at mo, for some players sanity they want to leave. That said, can’t imagine too many of the players wanted to see Tony moping around either
 
KennyBurner said:
Rangnick costing us with his decision to loan our best striker. He kept lingard so I dont care that Martial wanted to leave.
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This is just a stupid statement. He wanted Martial to stay and Martial wanted (rightly so) to go.
 
Litch said:
If he stayed, he wouldn‘t look anything like he does now. He needed out and maybe how things have been developing off the field, probably for good reason. That Utd shirt weighs too heavy for some people and the forensic nature of everything that’s happening at mo, for some players sanity they want to leave. That said, can’t imagine too many of the players wanted to see Tony moping around either
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Keep telling yourself that. He would even be better now that he is almost fully recovered from his knee injury. So much potential we could have if we switched out Ronaldo for him.
 
VP89 said:
Martial wanted to go. He has a flight over fight mentality, which is fine.
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If that were the case he would've been sold by Mourinho when he wanted him gone and not kept after forcing his way into the squad by consistently outplaying his teammates that Jose kept playing ahead of him on the wing.

Pure revisionist history saying he never fought for his place.

Strange we hardly hear similar moans about Cavani despite having to be convinced at 35 to stay on rather than fecking off to another league like he and his family wanted and playing whenever it suits him
 
Godfather said:
You mean at Sevilla sitting second in La Liga? And Dan James at Leeds sitting in 15th place in the PL? Yeah sounds about right.

Shame we loaned him out in all honesty. Could well use him now with Rashford barely looking a footballer, Cavani more injured than in the squad, Elanga far from good enough and Ronaldo mis and hit
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Shame we loaned him out? 1 goal in 11 games this season and 7 goals in 32 games last season, so a grand total of 8 goals in 43 games, not even 1 in 5 games. Sure, shame we loaned him out.
 
Rightnr said:
This is just a stupid statement. He wanted Martial to stay and Martial wanted (rightly so) to go.
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So what if he wants to go? He is needed till he isn't. We forced Lingard to stay so I don't get your point.

Im sure he only wanted to go because he was fully convinced the club is to scared to drop Ronaldo.
 
pascell said:
Shame we loaned him out? 1 goal in 11 games this season and 7 goals in 32 games last season, so a grand total of 8 goals in 43 games, not even 1 in 5 games. Sure, shame we loaned him out.
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Why stop at 2 seasons?
 
Are people really claiming we should have kept him? Martial FC is mental.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
So if Dan James scores that goal for Leeds against similar opposition we say “found his level”, right? I need to know what to think here.
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A bit weird the way you find a way to be negative in here regardless of if he plays poorly or does well.
 
KennyBurner said:
Keep telling yourself that. He would even be better now that he is almost fully recovered from his knee injury. So much potential we could have if we switched out Ronaldo for him.
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He wanted to go
 
KennyBurner said:
Keep telling yourself that. He would even be better now that he is almost fully recovered from his knee injury. So much potential we could have if we switched out Ronaldo for him.
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Yep, that’s why he’s not here. I take those lottery winning numbers if you don’t mind too considering you have the ability to look into the future. I’ll base my opinion on the last 2 seasons or so.
 
KennyBurner said:
Why stop at 2 seasons?
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OK.
21/22. 1 goal in 11 games
20/21 7 goals in 32 games
19/20 23 goals in 48 games
18/19 12 goals in 38 games
17/18 11 goals in 45 games

44 goals in 147 games

Want me to keep going? Or does it still not suit your agenda that Martial should still be here because he's better than our current options?
 
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I don’t know why people are bickering in here. Martial needed to get fit and find his mojo again. He was never doing that here - yes in retrospect he’d get games due to Cavani being awol, rashford being poor and the situation with he who can’t be named - but it was the right decision without hindsight to let him go for 6 months.
 
Pexbo said:
Are people really claiming we should have kept him? Martial FC is mental.
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I mean... Given that Cavani is forever injured and 35 and Ronaldo is 37 and has been struggling to control a ball and Greenwood is cancelled as a footballer..... Yeah we should've kept him. We essentially have Elanga as the only depth for Rashford, Sancho and Ronaldo. And the 5 games Cavani will be fit for.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
And not remotely weird to find you prowling this thread desperate to take offence at fairly benign comments.
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I bet you’ve spent more time than me in this thread. I just think it’s weird to shit on our players at any opportunity, but that’s just me.
 
Pexbo said:
Are people really claiming we should have kept him? Martial FC is mental.
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I definitely think we should've. He's a better option than Lingard, Elanga, Mata to have start or come off the bench.
 
bosnian_red said:
I mean... Given that Cavani is forever injured and 35 and Ronaldo is 37 and has been struggling to control a ball and Greenwood is cancelled as a footballer..... Yeah we should've kept him. We essentially have Elanga as the only depth for Rashford, Sancho and Ronaldo. And the 5 games Cavani will be fit for.
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Yagami said:
I definitely think we should've. He's a better option than Lingard, Elanga, Mata to have start or come off the bench.
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Are we just ignoring his performances this last year? He’s really not a better option than Elang he’s a total fecking waster in a United shirt. Lazy as feck.
 
Godfather said:
You mean at Sevilla sitting second in La Liga? And Dan James at Leeds sitting in 15th place in the PL? Yeah sounds about right.

Shame we loaned him out in all honesty. Could well use him now with Rashford barely looking a footballer, Cavani more injured than in the squad, Elanga far from good enough and Ronaldo mis and hit
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I mentioned the opposition for a reason. A brace against Aston Villa (the width of a crossbar away from a hat-trick) is obviously more impressive/relevant than a single goal against Zagreb.

Anyhoo. It is a pity we didn’t keep him. For the reasons you mention and, obviously, the Greenwood fiasco. Not all of which could have been predicted when the decision was made to let Martial move on. Something he pushed hard for himself.

But let’s not pretend he wasn’t absolutely shit for a very long time before any of this came to pass. Certainly not much better than Daniel James whenever they were both at the club together.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I mentioned the opposition for a reason. A brace against Aston Villa (the width of a crossbar away from a hat-trick) is obviously more impressive/relevant than a single goal against Zagreb.

Anyhoo. It is a pity we didn’t keep him. For the reasons you mention and, obviously, the Greenwood fiasco. Not all of which could have been predicted when the decision was made to let Martial move on. Something he pushed hard for himself.

But let’s not pretend he wasn’t absolutely shit for a very long time before any of this came to pass. Certainly not much better than Daniel James whenever they were both at the club together.
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Apart from the season where Martial won Man Utd player of the year?
 
Pexbo said:
Are we just ignoring his performances this last year? He’s really not a better option than Elang he’s a total fecking waster in a United shirt. Lazy as feck.
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Yup, I hope he has a great loan so we can offload him.
 
Pexbo said:
Are we just ignoring his performances this last year? He’s really not a better option than Elang he’s a total fecking waster in a United shirt. Lazy as feck.
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He's been poor, yes, but he's still maybe our only attacker who can hold the ball under pressure and in tight spaces. Sancho's now looking promising in that regard now, too.

I'd have Martial over Elanga any day. Elanga works hard, which wins over fans, but lacks quality. Martial should've only been loaned out if we had someone else coming in. Otherwise it would've been best to keep until the end of the season and sell then.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I mentioned the opposition for a reason. A brace against Aston Villa (the width of a crossbar away from a hat-trick) is obviously more impressive/relevant than a single goal against Zagreb.

Anyhoo. It is a pity we didn’t keep him. For the reasons you mention and, obviously, the Greenwood fiasco. Not all of which could have been predicted when the decision was made to let Martial move on. Something he pushed hard for himself.

But let’s not pretend he wasn’t absolutely shit for a very long time before any of this came to pass. Certainly not much better than Daniel James whenever they were both at the club together.
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I agree and for the record I do also think that getting rid of James ahead of jokers like Lingard was a mistake.
Our squad planning is a bit of a shambles
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
Jesus Cavani wanted to go last summer. And Martial wasn't playing at all, not really a "fight or flight" thing. My point is we could fecking use him considering we basically have two capable attackers currently
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Rolaholic said:
If that were the case he would've been sold by Mourinho when he wanted him gone and not kept after forcing his way into the squad by consistently outplaying his teammates that Jose kept playing ahead of him on the wing.

Pure revisionist history saying he never fought for his place.

Strange we hardly hear similar moans about Cavani despite having to be convinced at 35 to stay on rather than fecking off to another league like he and his family wanted and playing whenever it suits him
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Cavani is nearing the end of his career. The decision to persuade him is because hes established. Martial is a 9 who has had one good season as a 9.

Also Jose got sacked quickly enough and there were reports (Talk of the Devils podcast, Athletic affiliated) that he was a favourite of one of the Glazers. The idea to flog him at the time was never entertained by the board.

You could see his reaction to competition in his form. Its quite evident. There is no revisionism of history needed here, theres a good example this season itself. New manager comes and before he can evaluate players in training, Martial decides he wants out to get guaranteed playing time instead of forcing his way in.
 
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