It's also important to have the right player for the right squad role. A squad player should be on relatively modest wages and content with their role in the squad so that they don't sulk and are always ready to give everything when they are needed. Martial is on huge money, a lot more than a backup player should be earning, and secondly he is not someone who you can trust to try his best when he's needed because he'll be sulking about not being a first 11 player and being forced to stay. It just doesn't make sense to force him to stay in the kind of role you are talking about.
Anthony Martial | Sevilla loan watch
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It's also important to have the right player for the right squad role. A squad player should be on relatively modest wages and content with their role in the squad so that they don't sulk and are always ready to give everything when they are needed. Martial is on huge money, a lot more than a backup player should be earning, and secondly he is not someone who you can trust to try his best when he's needed because he'll be sulking about not being a first 11 player and being forced to stay. It just doesn't make sense to force him to stay in the kind of role you are talking about.
Alright then, let's let time show us. The future isn't far off anyway. I think we can squeeze some value from this asset even if we eventually bin but we'll see how things pan out. I've honestly posted more than I'd like but only because these Martial threads always draw out a crowd passionate on singular outcomes. Even more tiring than the Ronaldo threads. The most covered player for some reason.
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Justblike it was basic foresight to keep Lingard, lose out on a transfer fee and waste millions in wages. It’s actually very simple to comprehend that when Martial, Mata and Lingard have started some number of league games combined as Dan Jamesdid for us this season that we don’t need to retain them.
Cavani and Greenwood need to be replaced but we need to move on from this flawed logic of retaining backups through fear and incompetence.
Right because 1 decent cameo overwrites all the useless time he came off the bench.
You're delusional if you think having one of the highest paid player in the league come off the bench is a good idea.
You've seen our wage situation and you're calling me delusional. Every attacking candidate to come off our bench is making well above 200k. Everyone else has made a viable case why he shouldn't but you're the one guy repeatedly making shite points. Take a step back and let the more capable guide you.
Yeah, a more capable guy who thinks one of the highest paid player who has been shit for about 18 months now deserves to stay at the club instead of us selling while we still have a chance of shedding his wages off.
It's telling that Rangnick prefers Elanga over him, but I'm sure you prefer Ole's approach of keeping expensive players on the bench while we let them run out their contract and not give our youth players a chance.
I wasn't talking about myself but rather those who have given decent reasons to move on in the summer. This kind of poor reading comprehension is yet another reason you might be better for the listening role than talking role.
Yeah, a more capable guy who thinks one of the highest paid player who has been shit for about 18 months now deserves to stay at the club instead of us selling while we still have a chance of shedding his wages off.
It's telling that Rangnick prefers Elanga over him, but I'm sure you prefer Ole's approach of keeping expensive players on the bench while we let them run out their contract and not give our youth players a chance.
Playing off the left/inside forward I assume?
It’s on Freesports in the UK.
Not been good again
Looks like he had lost his mojo. Even the quickness in the dribbling is gone. Hopefully, he will improve as he gets minutes under his belt, and have Lingard's style of revival. At least, the WHU type of form.
watching on espn
aint done shit so far
may as well be an assistant referee
aint done shit so far
may as well be an assistant referee
Sevilla are boring. Good god.
Did he learn to dive and cry like his foot got snapped?
Just got an assist
Recall him
Nice assist with the cross.
Nice play by Antony.
Nicely tracked the lob, then nice cross to the striker.
Nicely tracked the lob, then nice cross to the striker.
Marthial doesn't seem fit at all.
And how are Sevilla in 2nd place?
And how are Sevilla in 2nd place?
Left footed Cross too, who knew he had it in him
Because they have a competent manager who's been building something good for a while now.
Edit: Lopetegui is also on our shortlist for the permanent managers job.
Assist and played a part in another.
Fitness and confidence is low though.
I assumed the 2nd placed team in Spain would dominate possession all game but Seville had 49% possession at half. Improved in the 2nd but I was surprised.
Please change thread to "Marthial".
Fitness and confidence is low though.
I assumed the 2nd placed team in Spain would dominate possession all game but Seville had 49% possession at half. Improved in the 2nd but I was surprised.
Please change thread to "Marthial".
One of the worst defending from a cross that I've ever seen but great for his confidence
I like him as a player and I think he has some great tools (a very good pass-and-move game, dribbling, finishing with his instep, upper-body strength), and some clear weaknesses that many have touched on (in-game intensity and penalty box movement being the most often cited, but I also think he lacks variety in how he strikes the ball, which makes him easier to defend against). I generally don't like the criticisms of laziness / sulkiness / lack of mentality (IMO these tend to be a little over the top and lack some nuance), but I do understand the criticisms coming in certain phases of play.
However, my biggest worry for Martial is that he seems to have lost a lot of the speed that made him so effective initially. Not sure why this is the case either - he looks to be in good shape and I used to see him posting videos of himself training during the off-season. If he doesn't regain some of those physical traits -- and make significant improvement on at least a few of those weaknesses -- he'll likely fall way short of the player he promised to be, which will be a damned shame for the club.
However, my biggest worry for Martial is that he seems to have lost a lot of the speed that made him so effective initially. Not sure why this is the case either - he looks to be in good shape and I used to see him posting videos of himself training during the off-season. If he doesn't regain some of those physical traits -- and make significant improvement on at least a few of those weaknesses -- he'll likely fall way short of the player he promised to be, which will be a damned shame for the club.
Our Martial chant is miles better than that tbf.
for whatever reason, before clicking play, i just assumed they would have kept the same chant/melody but with spanish lyrics. then I heard what their chant and was super disappointed
Watched most of the game last night.
Lets put it this way...I dont miss him.
Lets put it this way...I dont miss him.
I hope he does well but Sevilla must have some low standards if they thought that was worthy of a standing ovation. He got a nice assist but not a lot else, and he did waste a 1v1.
Plays really dull football though. They're more painful to watch than Simeone's Atletico
From watching the highlights he looks a little heavy
He will be their best player in a few games guaranteed
It’s just a match fitness thing. Give it another 2-3 games or so.
He’s played what? Two games? The coach has already warned him about his performances, and to the media directly:
Glad to see he improved after his first performance, hopefully he’ll finish season well for Sevilla so we can sell him in the summer. He’s definitely lost some pace/acceleration since he joined us so move to Spain or Italy would be best for him.
is there supposed to be a warning in that text?