Unsurprising really, which is a real shame. Hopefully as part of his United education the club has already prepared him for these type of situations. I really don't understand it either, as its not like he missed on purpose. I can at least understand abusing someone for not trying, but a one off mistake? First thoughts should be to rally around them and give them confidence to nail it next time.
Anthony Elanga targeted with racist abuse
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Find them and give them a public flogging!
I've said the same. It's every time at every club a black player misses a pen and it's quite predictable but rarely with real life documentation but enough to create headlines.
Considering twitter has millions of bots (25 million pr month according to twitter), and also that troll armies are a real thing, it's quite an easy way to divide a country and make a country look bad. I'd like to see a real face on some of this sometimes (for accountability). Racism is a thing that should be dealt with, but surely there must be cases of troll (racist) armies out there too.
Seems illogical and counter intuitive to be racist abusing AND supporting a team with at least 5-8 black people in it week in and week out.
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The impunity indulged by the anonymity of social media.
Against Villareal De Gea missed the crucial penalty but it was Rashford who suffered racist abuse despite scoring his.
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I think education is more likely to help these kind of people. I believe this is part of the reason for taking the knee (even though, bizarrely, a lot of people strongly opposed it), to highlight the issue of racism so then people go off and educate themselves. That said, you can't force someone to learn.
It's not ignorance at all. These idiots deliberately do this precisely because they know how hurtful it is.
There is precedent for this sort of thing - but I really don't think United have a lot of racist fans who are just waiting for an opportunity to abuse our own players.
(That doesn't mean we don't have any racist fans - but it seems undeniable at this point that racially abusing football players after penalty shootouts has become a "thing" for pure trolls and/or kids trying to be "edgy").
We have a lot of fans. By most metrics we have at least in the top three most fans in the world. There are also a lot of racist people in the world, and perhaps more racist people than we would have thought were still kicking around. Just by looking at those two things you would have to guess that we do have a lot of racist fans bouncing around. Hell, we have a lot of racist fans on here who end up outing themselves once they're in the right thread and are given the opportunity to do so.
Yes, it goes without saying that a club with a huge world wide fan base will have its share of (genuinely) racist fans.
However, this phenomenon (posting abusive shit on social media as an apparent reaction to players missing penalties) seems to be - well - real.
It really isn't surprising that trolls (kids, like as not) have jumped on this despicable trend - just look at the response it generates.
* I didn't remember correctly: this was rumoured to be the case but later proved incorrect. What was established was that a lot of abusive posts were made by people who very likely weren't England fans - but the majority of the abusive posts came from users within the UK, so I was wrong about that.
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Unfortunately we live amongst idiots. No level of continuous education will change them from being idiots. The more this gets highlighted in the media, the more ignited these idiots get, thinking they are funny.
They are just cowards mate and if they were exposed they would soil themselves with utter fear!
Why cant companies like Twitter block certain words from appearing on their feed?
Not that they should have to but it's better than this.
Not that they should have to but it's better than this.
Thicky Tory England strikes again! Such a nasty and shit place to live.
Unfortunately it's to be expected nowadays on unregulated social media so I'm not even remotely shocked, but it's sad to be saying that. Twitter would need to invest millions to either hire enough staff to regulate the platform as best as they could 24/7, or invest millions in technology in order for it to not continue to get worse.
They're shit, I reported an account last week because the username was the N word + something and they said it didn't violate any rules. Why can people even use that word on their service.
Not quite. The majority of racist posts that reached the criminal threshold came from outside the UK but the single biggest country of origin was the UK. 123 from abroad and 34 from the UK. 99% from verified accounts so not trolls or bots.
https://news.sky.com/story/majority...d-99-were-not-anonymous-says-twitter-12377977
As expected as it is now, we should never be indifferent to it. It’s people thinking they’re being funny or clever when they’re being cnuts. It’s not United fans, it’s ABUs thinking racist abuse is an acceptable form of shit stirring.
Yea but it might stop it happening in the future
It won’t though until real IDs are tied to social media platforms because then they cannot hide behind VPNs etc. there’d be a lot more worried about being caught or linked to work places etc
years ago someone was abusing my live chat team at work. Saying horrible things to the girls. So I checked his account and he was using a school email address. I contacted the school advised what was happening. Turned out to be a pupil. He never contacted us again.
This announcement yesterday.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/online-safety-law-to-be-strengthened-to-stamp-out-illegal-content
These are sick cowards who have no respect.
I've just learned that "epilepsy trolling" is a thing. Ffs
Never understood this kind of take. The discussion is to put pressure on authorities to act and to show the poor kid some support. Surely you can see that.
How does everyone burying their head in the sand help anyone?
I agree that it's cowardly, I don't think fear is useful. I think people should learn how hurtful their words are. The thing is, you are talking about football fans. They generally don't give a care if they upset someone's feelings where football is concerned. I think this is where the education part comes in. I hear a lot of people promoting violence against such stuff but I don't think punching someone for being racist is any better than being racist. You could argue that it's worse, who knows. Sad all round really. I wonder how much of it was from actual United fans though.
I’m sure Elanga wishes he had that luxury
Sad to hear but not a surprise. Can't blame the lad for us getting knocked out.
I suppose we will see how it pans out. But my idea should be a global solution. No hiding place
Not surprised, there will be those views held on here too. You think the negative comments about Pogs, Tony and Rashford etc just stem from some peoples view about them as footballers?
How feckin dumb can you be to blame the kid for anything after that game? Missed penalty can happen to anyone and the game should have been over long before he stepped to take it, so it had to do much more with the players that were in the starting lineup.
To be racially abused over it is just vile and disgusting. I really hope that kid somehow doesn't take it to his heart because he has been one of the rare shining lights in this season shitshow (maybe even the only positive when am looking at it).
To be racially abused over it is just vile and disgusting. I really hope that kid somehow doesn't take it to his heart because he has been one of the rare shining lights in this season shitshow (maybe even the only positive when am looking at it).
Unacceptable but not unexpected. Easy for the media to claim it from "their own fans". Hopefully, Anthony will come back stronger from this and he will recognise that proper fans aren't uneducated scumbags.
Quite clearly not even remotely my point.
It’s very disappointing to read, but not surprising.
Ultimately we live amongst thousands of racist and bigoted people. The age of Social Media has amplified them. They can get to their target audience far easier.
Ultimately we live amongst thousands of racist and bigoted people. The age of Social Media has amplified them. They can get to their target audience far easier.
Maybe I read it wrong. Sounded like you suggested that nothing can be done about this and it should no longer be called out as a result?
Whatever your point it was a terrible one. Ignoring terrible things, not discussing them, doesn't make it go away.
That’s not what I said, I replied to another poster in agreement in that this kind of anonymous online troll abuse should no longer be highlighted and discussed to the degree it is. As it just gives the trolls what they want. And ultimately there aren’t going to be repercussions as these people don’t actually have an identity.
It should obviously still be reported and I’m not implying Elanga should do nothing about it.
No it wasn’t. Im not saying racism in general shouldn’t be discussed. But there is obviously a difference between anonymous online racist trolling and someone racially abusing someone in the street or institutional racism. It’s clear which one can be tackled and discussed and which can’t. One of those is purely clickbait to make headlines and to divide. And that’s usually what always happens….
When it gets highlighted it leads to things like this:
Euro 2020 racist abuse - 11 people arrested
And some of those have since been charged. Your suggestion is to ignore people like that but I gurantee those charged won't do it again.
“It should obviously still be reported and I’m not implying Elanga should do nothing about it.”
I think You can report and ignore at the same time…
Iirc those charged weren’t anonymous and one in particular had streamed himself from his personal Facebook account. By all means in these cases I completely agree highlight and discuss it to the max. Let social media do it’s thing.
The absolutely overwhelming majority are just alias Instagram accounts though and I just don’t think giving them clout anymore is the best way to deal with them.
Same.
It was like when Rashford, Sancho and Saka missed their pens in the Euros final. You just knew they'd be in for a rough time on social media that night, the worst kind too. That's the way it is and always will be until the popular social media outlets put a system in place that prevents racial abuse or any form of abuse for that matter. That'll be the day, though.
In a thread bursting full of shit-takes, you sir win the shit-take cake.Absolutely agree. That kind of thing needs to be called out more and questioned / challenged on here.
We’re living in a country where people voted for Brexit ffs - but let’s just assume that this is just ‘trolls looking for attention’ and stop talking about it, it’s not as if these players are human beings, and it’s not as if human beings experiencing regular prejudice leads to a far worse society for everyone.